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[aaronjb]

OK, you might only get excited about one of them, because the other one is this:

(Technically three new vehicles..)

400 miles on 30 minutes of charge.




New Roadster - 0-60 in 1.6seconds. Not much can keep up with that - even sportbikes. And a price tag to make your eyes water.

[Doctor Gollum]

The one on the right looks all white

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

The first image has a certain demonic menace about it. I like it.

Zero to sixty in 1.6 seconds is roughly 2G.......and will probably hurt.

[aaronjb]

Zero to sixty in 1.6 seconds is roughly 2G.......and will probably hurt.

I'd give it a go

[Marks DTM Calib]

a 30 minute charge is going to need one HELL of a power supply! 

[Mr Gav]

The first image has a certain demonic menace about it. I like it.

Zero to sixty in 1.6 seconds is roughly 2G.......and will probably hurt.

Yes it`s all looking very `I Robot` and looks like it wants to kill humans 

Once they become driverless it could get very scary 

[Kevin Wood]

Zero to sixty in 1.6 seconds is roughly 2G.......and will probably hurt.

I'd give it a go

No worse than a glider winch launch (without the 2000' per minute rate of climb element). *

* - Your Traction May Vary 

[aaronjb]

a 30 minute charge is going to need one HELL of a power supply! 

The Superchargers are already capable of delivering 120kW per car - they've talked about a new Supercharger capable of 350kW per vehicle before and these will be recharged by a new 'Megacharger'.. I guess north of 350kW.

Going to need quite the infrastructure.

[aaronjb]

Zero to sixty in 1.6 seconds is roughly 2G.......and will probably hurt.

I'd give it a go

No worse than a glider winch launch (without the 2000' per minute rate of climb element). *

* - Your Traction May Vary 

I'd give that a go, too, but with 150Kg of me in the cockpit I don't think there'd be the required 2000'/min rate of climb!

[STEMO]

Zero to sixty in 1.6 seconds is roughly 2G.......and will probably hurt.

I'd give it a go

No worse than a glider winch launch (without the 2000' per minute rate of climb element). *

* - Your Traction May Vary 

I'd give that a go, too, but with 150Kg of me in the cockpit I don't think there'd be the required 2000'/min rate of climb!

Just bob along the runway a bit 

[aaronjb]

Just bob along the runway a bit 

Until it crashes into the winch rather like the Challenger at the end of Vanishing Point.

[STEMO]

Just bob along the runway a bit 

Until it crashes into the winch rather like the Challenger at the end of Vanishing Point.

 


I don’t believe for a minute that you weigh 150 kilos. 

[Kevin Wood]

Zero to sixty in 1.6 seconds is roughly 2G.......and will probably hurt.

I'd give it a go

No worse than a glider winch launch (without the 2000' per minute rate of climb element). *

* - Your Traction May Vary 

I'd give that a go, too, but with 150Kg of me in the cockpit I don't think there'd be the required 2000'/min rate of climb!

Oh, I think the Chevy 502 in the winch would argue otherwise, but seat load is limited to 110 kg, unfortunately.

[aaronjb]

STEMO - 23 st 10 ½ lbs at my last visit to fat club; 332lbs is almost dead on 150kg. So you should believe it

Granted, that's down from 29 st 5 lbs (411lb or 186kg) on the 13th of Feb, but still a long way from the 110kg limit in a glider!

Oh, I think the Chevy 502 in the winch would argue otherwise, but seat load is limited to 110 kg, unfortunately.

Maybe in another 9 months, if I'm really lucky, I could be down in that range Unlikely, but maybe.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

The first image has a certain demonic menace about it. I like it.

Zero to sixty in 1.6 seconds is roughly 2G.......and will probably hurt.

Yes it`s all looking very `I Robot` and looks like it wants to kill humans 

Once they become driverless it could get very scary 

It could become 'self aware'. Very scary.

[STEMO]

STEMO - 23 st 10 ½ lbs at my last visit to fat club; 332lbs is almost dead on 150kg. So you should believe it

Granted, that's down from 29 st 5 lbs (411lb or 186kg) on the 13th of Feb, but still a long way from the 110kg limit in a glider!

Oh, I think the Chevy 502 in the winch would argue otherwise, but seat load is limited to 110 kg, unfortunately.

Maybe in another 9 months, if I'm really lucky, I could be down in that range Unlikely, but maybe.

You need to try very hard, young Aaron, you have your whole life ahead of you, and it could be such a good life. Best of luck 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

STEMO - 23 st 10 ½ lbs at my last visit to fat club; 332lbs is almost dead on 150kg. So you should believe it

Granted, that's down from 29 st 5 lbs (411lb or 186kg) on the 13th of Feb, but still a long way from the 110kg limit in a glider!

Oh, I think the Chevy 502 in the winch would argue otherwise, but seat load is limited to 110 kg, unfortunately.

Maybe in another 9 months, if I'm really lucky, I could be down in that range Unlikely, but maybe.

Getting easier or harder to lose weight, Aaron?

[biggriffin]

Think the electric lorry is a bit long fo a std 45" trailer, then there's the battery pack, think the available pay load won't be good, then there's the que of electric trucks waiting their turn to charge. Also what happens when it runs out of lectricky in the road works. Can't wait for this.

[Varche]

Mrs V says that is pretty impressive for that red toy car (with the black cat behind it) . Any plans to build a life size one?

[STEMO]

Think the electric lorry is a bit long fo a std 45" trailer, then there's the battery pack, think the available pay load won't be good, then there's the que of electric trucks waiting their turn to charge. Also what happens when it runs out of lectricky in the road works. Can't wait for this.

45 inches seems a bit short for a trailer 

[Varche]

Think the electric lorry is a bit long fo a std 45" trailer, then there's the battery pack, think the available pay load won't be good, then there's the que of electric trucks waiting their turn to charge. Also what happens when it runs out of lectricky in the road works. Can't wait for this.

You aren't thinking outside the box. Each lorry driver will have a USB stick emergency power supply (bit like you get now for your mobile phone) . Just plug it in and away you go to your nearest charging point. Or what does a lorry do now when it runs out of fuel? Call out the breakdown truck.

[Varche]

Think the electric lorry is a bit long fo a std 45" trailer, then there's the battery pack, think the available pay load won't be good, then there's the que of electric trucks waiting their turn to charge. Also what happens when it runs out of lectricky in the road works. Can't wait for this.

45 inches seems a bit short for a trailer 

Seems right if they are toys.

[aaronjb]

Thanks STEMO 

Getting easier or harder to lose weight, Aaron?

Harder - although that's only really because we've had a tough few weeks with a lot of stress, little time to shop etc and resorted to food that isn't "on plan". The dog is about the only thing keeping us in balance at the moment!

Incidentally if anyone is lonely and single, I reckon SlimmingWorld groups would be a great place to pick up some desperate MILF action

[Kevin Wood]

STEMO - 23 st 10 ½ lbs at my last visit to fat club; 332lbs is almost dead on 150kg. So you should believe it

Granted, that's down from 29 st 5 lbs (411lb or 186kg) on the 13th of Feb, but still a long way from the 110kg limit in a glider!

Oh, I think the Chevy 502 in the winch would argue otherwise, but seat load is limited to 110 kg, unfortunately.

Maybe in another 9 months, if I'm really lucky, I could be down in that range Unlikely, but maybe.

Well done. That's a fantastic achievement.

When you get to 110 kg, the flight's on me.

I'll even take you there in the Westfield.

[LC0112G]

Think the electric lorry is a bit long fo a std 45" trailer, then there's the battery pack, think the available pay load won't be good, then there's the que of electric trucks waiting their turn to charge. Also what happens when it runs out of lectricky in the road works. Can't wait for this.

You aren't thinking outside the box. Each lorry driver will have a USB stick emergency power supply (bit like you get now for your mobile phone) . Just plug it in and away you go to your nearest charging point. Or what does a lorry do now when it runs out of fuel? Call out the breakdown truck.

Yeah, right. It's estimated that to get the 500 mile range Tesla are claiming for the lorry it'll need a battery around 1200Kwh in size. Charging it in half an hour means a supply rated at least 2400kwh. From a 240V supply that's 10,000 amps  .

The reality is that you're going to have to drive this thing to your local nuclear power station to charge it up. The new Hinkley Point C is rated at 3200Mw. It'll be able to recharge about 2700 lorries per hour.  And that charge will get you about 500 miles, so what 10 hours driving? AIUI a normal diesel lorry can drive around for several days on a single fill up.

[Varche]

Think the electric lorry is a bit long fo a std 45" trailer, then there's the battery pack, think the available pay load won't be good, then there's the que of electric trucks waiting their turn to charge. Also what happens when it runs out of lectricky in the road works. Can't wait for this.

You aren't thinking outside the box. Each lorry driver will have a USB stick emergency power supply (bit like you get now for your mobile phone) . Just plug it in and away you go to your nearest charging point. Or what does a lorry do now when it runs out of fuel? Call out the breakdown truck.

Yeah, right. It's estimated that to get the 500 mile range Tesla are claiming for the lorry it'll need a battery around 1200Kwh in size. Charging it in half an hour means a supply rated at least 2400kwh. From a 240V supply that's 10,000 amps  .

The reality is that you're going to have to drive this thing to your local nuclear power station to charge it up. The new Hinkley Point C is rated at 3200Mw. It'll be able to recharge about 2700 lorries per hour.  And that charge will get you about 500 miles, so what 10 hours driving? AIUI a normal diesel lorry can drive around for several days on a single fill up.

 

So the breakdown trucks "emergency charge" will pack a hell of a punch just like my USB sticks.

[aaronjb]

STEMO - 23 st 10 ½ lbs at my last visit to fat club; 332lbs is almost dead on 150kg. So you should believe it

Granted, that's down from 29 st 5 lbs (411lb or 186kg) on the 13th of Feb, but still a long way from the 110kg limit in a glider!

Oh, I think the Chevy 502 in the winch would argue otherwise, but seat load is limited to 110 kg, unfortunately.

Maybe in another 9 months, if I'm really lucky, I could be down in that range Unlikely, but maybe.

Well done. That's a fantastic achievement.

When you get to 110 kg, the flight's on me.

I'll even take you there in the Westfield.

Cheers Kevin - might just take you up on that, if/when I make it there


BTW LCOG (as I call you in my head.. pronounced "El Cog"), Superchargers are 480V DC, so it's a mere 5,000A of DC current. What could go wrong?

Incidentally, Elon says the Megachargers will be solar powered. I assume each one will come with a few square miles of solar panels.. which might well work in the middle of America (aka desert wasteland), but not the UK, I suspect!

[Doctor Gollum]

8mpg and a 200 gallon tank... 8 gallons an hour at 56 mph, that's 25 hours of driving, or just over a day

[aaronjb]

8mpg and a 200 gallon tank... 8 gallons an hour at 56 mph, that's 25 hours of driving, or just over a day

How long before the tacho makes you stop for a break, though?*

*assuming you haven't disconnected it, of course. Because nobody would ever do that.

[Lazydocker]

Zero to sixty in 1.6 seconds is roughly 2G.......and will probably hurt.

I'd give it a go

No worse than a glider winch launch (without the 2000' per minute rate of climb element). *

* - Your Traction May Vary 

Indeed. And not painful at all

[Kevin Wood]

Cheers Kevin - might just take you up on that, if/when I make it there


BTW LCOG (as I call you in my head.. pronounced "El Cog"), Superchargers are 480V DC, so it's a mere 5,000A of DC current. What could go wrong?

Incidentally, Elon says the Megachargers will be solar powered. I assume each one will come with a few square miles of solar panels.. which might well work in the middle of America (aka desert wasteland), but not the UK, I suspect!

It all smacks of "Meh - I'm sure we'll have figured out something by the time we let you order one." to me.

The obvious answer to the electric truck is to string power lines along the roads, and have a pantograph on the truck to get power, and a metal road for the return path. That would eliminate the need for a battery at all. The road wouldn't have to be as wide as a normal road, of course, as that would cost too much, so we could have a really narrow metal road and really narrow metal tyres on the truck. In fact, if they were too narrow, the truck would fall over, so what about two narrow metal roads about, ooh, 4ft 8 1/2 inches apart...
The driver would only have to hold on to a lever and look for red lights so he wouldn't need regular 28% pay rises or anything. Wouldn't be needed at all, if it weren't for the unions, actually.

Oh, hang on!  I'm sure Mr. Musk knows all this, though.

[aaronjb]

It all smacks of "Meh - I'm sure we'll have figured out something by the time we let you order one." to me.

Mr Musk comes from the software world - you and I both know that's standard operating procedure in IT!

[Doctor Gollum]

8mpg and a 200 gallon tank... 8 gallons an hour at 56 mph, that's 25 hours of driving, or just over a day

How long before the tacho makes you stop for a break, though?*

*assuming you haven't disconnected it, of course. Because nobody would ever do that.

Every two hours according to that masterpiece officialdom aka The Working Time Directive

Legally, if you're not driving on the road, you only get a 20 minute break and then only if your shift time is over 12 hours go figure

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

It all smacks of "Meh - I'm sure we'll have figured out something by the time we let you order one." to me.

Mr Musk comes from the software world - you and I both know that's standard operating procedure in IT!

Mr Musk plans to have a man on Mars by 2025, apparently.

I think he'll need more than a winged Tesla with an extra batttery pack to achieve such a feat.

[biggriffin]

8mpg and a 200 gallon tank... 8 gallons an hour at 56 mph, that's 25 hours of driving, or just over a day

How long before the tacho makes you stop for a break, though?*

*assuming you haven't disconnected it, of course. Because nobody would ever do that.

. 


450L tank 1600ks. After 4 1/2 hour a 45min break.  To do a 10 hour drive will need two 45 breaks.

Disconnecting tacho hasn't been done since advent of digi-tacho, use a magnet now.