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2003 Corsa clutch judder.
« on: 03 June 2014, 12:43:43 »

I'm guessing there is no way to adjust it. :-\

It's the original clutch, so getting on for 11 years old.


Easy DIY job?

Inexpensive to change?
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Re: 2003 Corsa clutch judder.
« Reply #1 on: 03 June 2014, 13:15:32 »

If it's juddering then it may well have been contaminated by oil / coolant, or just excessively worn, but it'd be worth checking the condition of all the engine and gearbox mounts first just in case.
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Re: 2003 Corsa clutch judder.
« Reply #2 on: 03 June 2014, 13:31:34 »

If it's juddering then it may well have been contaminated by oil / coolant, or just excessively worn, but it'd be worth checking the condition of all the engine and gearbox mounts first just in case.

Thanks, Kevin. I'll take a look.

The car has done just 25,000 miles.
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Re: 2003 Corsa clutch judder.
« Reply #3 on: 03 June 2014, 16:43:30 »

I'll have to check out the price of a new clutch fitted by Vx.

It's only a 1.2 Corsa so I can't see it being more than about £70-£90 all in.
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Re: 2003 Corsa clutch judder.
« Reply #4 on: 03 June 2014, 16:45:55 »

I'll have to check out the price of a new clutch fitted by Vx.

It's only a 1.2 Corsa so I can't see it being more than about £70-£90 all in.
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Re: 2003 Corsa clutch judder.
« Reply #5 on: 03 June 2014, 16:46:44 »

I was going to say - if you look on ECP for an idea of clutch kit prices you'll barely get the clutch alone for that money.. ;D
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Re: 2003 Corsa clutch judder.
« Reply #6 on: 03 June 2014, 16:47:36 »

If it's juddering then it may well have been contaminated by oil / coolant, or just excessively worn, but it'd be worth checking the condition of all the engine and gearbox mounts first just in case.

Thanks, Kevin. I'll take a look.

The car has done just 25,000 miles.

Hmm. Unlikely to be worn, then, surely?
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Re: 2003 Corsa clutch judder.
« Reply #7 on: 03 June 2014, 16:57:06 »

I was going to say - if you look on ECP for an idea of clutch kit prices you'll barely get the clutch alone for that money.. ;D

Why not?.....it's a Corsa not a Veyron. :-\

I hope that you and Kevin have got the price wrong. :y
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Re: 2003 Corsa clutch judder.
« Reply #8 on: 03 June 2014, 17:04:10 »

Now I just think you're winding us up  :P ;D

LuK clutch kits ranged from £70 to £150ish, depending on contents (I think from bare 2-piece up to ones incl. throwout bearing, slave etc)..
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Re: 2003 Corsa clutch judder.
« Reply #9 on: 03 June 2014, 17:24:54 »

Now I just think you're winding us up  :P ;D

LuK clutch kits ranged from £70 to £150ish, depending on contents (I think from bare 2-piece up to ones incl. throwout bearing, slave etc)..

All gears engage perfectly and silently. The clutch does not 'drag' when in gear.

Clutch judder is most apparent when the car moves off for the first time. Subsequent starts are much smoother and less jerky. :y
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Re: 2003 Corsa clutch judder.
« Reply #10 on: 03 June 2014, 23:09:51 »

If you don't sort it quickly, you'd be better off spending your cash on a rubber laptop!  ::)  ;D
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Re: 2003 Corsa clutch judder.
« Reply #11 on: 04 June 2014, 09:03:47 »

I have a Corsa 1.2 Twinport, had same issue clutch judder when cold, common fault and a new clutch will not fix the problem, just had mine replaced by my brother in law, its a pig of a job sub frame has to be come out, some Vauxhall dealers do a deal £500 all in. Mine was replaced because it had worn out, it had 66k miles on it mainly from previous owners.

As long as the judder disappears after a mile or two then thats fine, its caused by condensation on the plates. If you buy the clutch kit make sure its the 3 part and not the cheaper two part with out the bearing, or you will be doing it all over again.
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Re: 2003 Corsa clutch judder.
« Reply #12 on: 04 June 2014, 10:29:10 »

I have a Corsa 1.2 Twinport, had same issue clutch judder when cold, common fault and a new clutch will not fix the problem, just had mine replaced by my brother in law, its a pig of a job sub frame has to be come out, some Vauxhall dealers do a deal £500 all in. Mine was replaced because it had worn out, it had 66k miles on it mainly from previous owners.

As long as the judder disappears after a mile or two then thats fine, its caused by condensation on the plates. If you buy the clutch kit make sure its the 3 part and not the cheaper two part with out the bearing, or you will be doing it all over again.

Ours is a 53 plate 1.2 SXI.....no 'Twinport' on the back whatever that means. :y



 
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« Reply #13 on: 04 June 2014, 10:36:40 »

My 56 plate Zafira had this problem, however, the problem was the flywheel, not the clutch. Vauxhall knew about this issue and Mark DTM sent me a TIS bulletin number to give to the dealer to get the flywheel replaced.
I never bothered though because, as with your corsa, it was only for the first few minutes each day.
If your clutch seems fine after the first few engagements, I would live with it. As has been said, it may just be condensation and it is not a cheap or easy job.
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Re: 2003 Corsa clutch judder.
« Reply #14 on: 04 June 2014, 10:44:09 »

The clutches I am pretty certain are the same in all 1.2 corsa c's regardless of the engines, as is the judder. Like I said if it disappears after a mile or so then leave it until the clutch is spent.

One good thing is the clutch is cheaper than the dreaded wet carpets from the brake servo seal, thats an all day job and dash out to do which even Vauxhall dealers don't want to quote for.
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Re: 2003 Corsa clutch judder.
« Reply #15 on: 04 June 2014, 10:53:41 »

The clutches I am pretty certain are the same in all 1.2 corsa c's regardless of the engines, as is the judder. Like I said if it disappears after a mile or so then leave it until the clutch is spent.

One good thing is the clutch is cheaper than the dreaded wet carpets from the brake servo seal, thats an all day job and dash out to do which even Vauxhall dealers don't want to quote for.

I must have fixed 4 of them, 1-2 hours....using my method!
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Re: 2003 Corsa clutch judder.
« Reply #16 on: 04 June 2014, 10:59:47 »

Wow2 hours I got relieved of £550 for that job from an indy Vauxhall main dealer wanted the best part of £800 :( What annoyed me the most is that Vauxhall knew of this issue for years and did nothing, you can see the new seal is a lot better than the original, though still a rubbish design all round. Looking to replace next year with a Corsa D or the Fiesta, I know for sure that the Corsa D does not have the issue as it is a different design.
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Re: 2003 Corsa clutch judder.
« Reply #17 on: 04 June 2014, 11:23:06 »

I dont replace the panel.

I remove the trim around the wipers and scuttle cover, unbolt the master cylinder and move to one side, remove the brake servo.

Remove the throttle pedal and unbolt the pedal box.

The unbolt the leaky plate, you can then push it into the cabin by circa 20-30mm, clean it all up well with panel wipe or a good solvent.

Then apply a good polyurethane sealent around the edge of the lower half of the edge of the plate and bolt the plate back up, the sealent then oozes out and you can spread it across the remainder of the jointl to fully bridge the gap (its by now well sealed anyway).

Then refit said items.

I did the first one some 3-4 years ago, none have ever leaked since.

The fault with the plate is the seal/sealent used, the above method eratins the plate but fits a much more superior sealent (all be it a pain to use as its hard to remove from your clothes/skin)
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Re: 2003 Corsa clutch judder.
« Reply #18 on: 04 June 2014, 11:24:14 »

Wow2 hours I got relieved of £550 for that job from an indy Vauxhall main dealer wanted the best part of £800 :( What annoyed me the most is that Vauxhall knew of this issue for years and did nothing, you can see the new seal is a lot better than the original, though still a rubbish design all round. Looking to replace next year with a Corsa D or the Fiesta, I know for sure that the Corsa D does not have the issue as it is a different design.

Early Corsa D had an issue with the blend valve in the heater setup which required a dash removal, fixed within about 12-18 months of production start though.
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Re: 2003 Corsa clutch judder.
« Reply #19 on: 04 June 2014, 13:00:27 »

Wow2 hours I got relieved of £550 for that job from an indy Vauxhall main dealer wanted the best part of £800 :( What annoyed me the most is that Vauxhall knew of this issue for years and did nothing, you can see the new seal is a lot better than the original, though still a rubbish design all round. Looking to replace next year with a Corsa D or the Fiesta, I know for sure that the Corsa D does not have the issue as it is a different design.

Fooking hell. These figures should not be in the same sentence as '1.2 Corsa'.

Surely the whole point about 'runabouts' like the Corsa is that they are inexpensive to maintain.

As a matter of interest, Mark.........What would you charge to replace a Corsa 'C' clutch?

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« Reply #20 on: 04 June 2014, 13:04:23 »

If it aint broke just run it  ;) Then when it breaks scrap it for one thats had the work done ...or buy the lady a nice cabriolet  :y
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« Reply #21 on: 04 June 2014, 13:17:42 »

Wow2 hours I got relieved of £550 for that job from an indy Vauxhall main dealer wanted the best part of £800 :( What annoyed me the most is that Vauxhall knew of this issue for years and did nothing, you can see the new seal is a lot better than the original, though still a rubbish design all round. Looking to replace next year with a Corsa D or the Fiesta, I know for sure that the Corsa D does not have the issue as it is a different design.

Fooking hell. These figures should not be in the same sentence as '1.2 Corsa'.

Surely the whole point about 'runabouts' like the Corsa is that they are inexpensive to maintain.

As a matter of interest, Mark.........What would you charge to replace a Corsa 'C' clutch?
The money for your ancient barge is still waiting here, though I doubt it will cover the cost of a clutch for your go kart. ;D
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« Reply #22 on: 04 June 2014, 13:25:26 »

Oh......he's gone.....no pleasing some people... ::)
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Re: 2003 Corsa clutch judder.
« Reply #23 on: 04 June 2014, 13:49:37 »

Oh......he's gone.....no pleasing some people... ::)

Probably got knocked out with a laptop....  ::)  ;D
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« Reply #24 on: 04 June 2014, 13:51:54 »

Oh......he's gone.....no pleasing some people... ::)

Probably got knocked out with a laptop....  ::)  ;D
Yeah. Wussie boy  ;D
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« Reply #25 on: 04 June 2014, 14:43:35 »

Oh......he's gone.....no pleasing some people... ::)

Probably got knocked out with a laptop....  ::)  ;D
Yeah. Wussie boy  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;)  I'll have you know that the Omega is not an 'ancient barge'.......it's the car of the future. ::) ::) :)
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Re: 2003 Corsa clutch judder.
« Reply #26 on: 04 June 2014, 14:56:16 »

Its a three to four hour job when done on the drive.

Then you need full clutch kit of a decent make (including salve), brake fluid and gearbox oil.

So got to be about 120-150 in bits alone.

Cant see when I would have the time to do it at the moment either  ??? :-\
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Re: 2003 Corsa clutch judder.
« Reply #27 on: 04 June 2014, 15:08:19 »

Its a three to four hour job when done on the drive.

Then you need full clutch kit of a decent make (including salve), brake fluid and gearbox oil.

So got to be about 120-150 in bits alone.

Cant see when I would have the time to do it at the moment either  ??? :-\
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No worries......the judder is more of an inconvenience than a problem at the moment. :y
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