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[oceansoul]

ive been browsing American Ebay (as ya do :/) and came across catera tail lights. There Kinda like LED ones ish.


Are they a straight swop for the standard (uk) facelift tail lights???

[Andy B]

Doubt it as the USA don't require rear fogs.

[Albatross]

Nope.

Fog lights are an issue as mentioned ^.

These are facelift. Check the difference. White below in Europe, red below in USA.

To swap the ones on the wings that you're talking about you would also need to change the lights on the bootlid which are a different shape to the European ones. You then need to start looing at a new Catera boot-lid.

Catera boot lids have a hole cut into them for a hideous high level brake light that runs near on the entire width of the car and would dissapear under an Irmsher / Elite / MV6 boot lip spoiler.

To have a spoiler you'd be looking at the one fitted to a Catera Sport (see below).

This car started out life as a Catera Sport and then has been modified (re-badged) as an Omega to make it unique over there, but as you can see he has stopped short of the rear light conversion because of the reverse of all the issues mentioed above.

[tunnie]

i guess you could get away with it, but only if you replaced the light cluters in the wing, and not the boot.

Cause the fog light is in the light cluster on the boot.

But i don't think it would look quite right  :-/

[Andy B]

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 for a hideous high level brake light that runs near on the entire width of the car and  .......  

I quite like the full width high level brake light, even though I'm generally not that in favour of high/eye level brake lights - if cars had seperate brake lights, rather than stop/tail lights I don't think they'd be neccessary.  

[Albatross]

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 for a hideous high level brake light that runs near on the entire width of the car and  .......  

I quite like the full width high level brake light, even though I'm generally not that in favour of high/eye level brake lights - if cars had separate brake lights, rather than stop/tail lights I don't think they'd be necessary.  

Each one to his own I suppose. It is a subjective thing that long light.

As to the virtues of high level brake lights; I think that the main benefit is being able to see the brake lights of the car in front of the car in front, if you know what I mean. You can see through cars to see other people's brake lights which is a good thing. Personally I find them good things.

Again, another case of each to his own, but I think that they have been proven to reduce rear end shunts. Whether that is because of your argument on stop/tail lights or not would be difficult to argue against really.

[oceansoul]

i guess you could get away with it, but only if you replaced the light cluters in the wing, and not the boot.

Cause the fog light is in the light cluster on the boot.

But i don't think it would look quite right  :-/

photoshop maybe, anyone

[tunnie]

i guess you could get away with it, but only if you replaced the light cluters in the wing, and not the boot.

Cause the fog light is in the light cluster on the boot.

But i don't think it would look quite right  :-/

photoshop maybe, anyone

Too much like hard work  

[Albatross]

i guess you could get away with it, but only if you replaced the light cluters in the wing, and not the boot.

Cause the fog light is in the light cluster on the boot.

But i don't think it would look quite right  :-/

photoshop maybe, anyone

Too much like hard work  

And after 30 minutes of "hard work". I know the pics aren't that good, but there was limit to how much time I was prepared to devote to the task.

IMHO it looks bl00dy terrible.

[Andy B]

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IMHO it looks bl00dy terrible.

Probably look better if both inner & outer lights were off a Catera. Your picture has the white parts diagonally opposite each other rather than side by side.  

[Albatross]

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IMHO it looks bl00dy terrible.

Probably look better if both inner & outer lights were off a Catera. Your picture has the white parts diagonally opposite each other rather than side by side.  

Uurh....

That was the whole point. See the thread of the conversation above. The question was "how would it look if only the outer lights were changed?"

If I wanted t show how the whole lot would look I would have just referred to the original picture of the Catera, or at best brushed out the long brake light.

See the quote below which will explain:

i guess you could get away with it, but only if you replaced the light clusters in the wing, and not the boot.

Cause the fog light is in the light cluster on the boot.

But i don't think it would look quite right  :-/

[Andy B]

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Uurh....

That was the whole point. See the thread of the conversation above. The question was "how would it look if only the outer lights were changed?"
If I wanted t show how the whole lot would look I would have just referred to the original picture of the Catera, or at best brushed out the long brake light.

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     Sorry .... I must've missed that bit!!!    
Agreed then ...... It looks bloody awfull      
Well done on the photoshop    

[oceansoul]

ergh that looks gash


cheers for the shop though

[tmx]

fair play albatros that shows your point exactly!

[Danny]

they'd look perfect if they had the matching bootlid ones, simple as that

go back on photoshop mr albatross and play about with swapping the bootlid light colours!