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Title: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 10 October 2016, 13:48:48
Having fixed the misfire issue on Saturday (water in the plug wells from windscreen seal) I drove the 210 miles home, and spent a bit of time checking her over for the MOT, which I had already pre booked for today.

A quick check over on Sunday up on a ramp and all looked good to me. The only job done was a handbrake adjustment.

Passed the MOT today without a single advisory :y :y - now has a ticket until 20 October 2017  8)



Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 10 October 2016, 13:53:14
The old girl is now at my local valeting place, for a full wash/wax/polish inside out treatment.

They always do a super job, so this will allow me to see what potential the bodywork has, and exactly what is needed, paint wise. I know she's a bit rough around the edges and won't come up like a mint example, but I'm hopeful they will be able to make her look nice and presentable :y
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: zirk on 10 October 2016, 14:47:10
Nice one James,  :y

Not sure I'd be getting a Car Waxed if its due some Paint work though.
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 10 October 2016, 14:51:44
Nice one James,  :y

Not sure I'd be getting a Car Waxed if its due some Paint work though.

When I say paint work - I am referring mainly to the NSF door and rear bumper - it would probably be cheaper to replace the parts from a tidy breaker, rather than pay for respraying :y
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: zirk on 10 October 2016, 15:10:20
Nice one James,  :y

Not sure I'd be getting a Car Waxed if its due some Paint work though.

When I say paint work - I am referring mainly to the NSF door and rear bumper - it would probably be cheaper to replace the parts from a tidy breaker, rather than pay for respraying :y
Sounds like a plan, problem these days getting a couple of panels painted and washed in down the side can easily become more expensive than the Cars worth.
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: Mister Rog on 10 October 2016, 15:39:37
 So, you're getting it ready for me to buy it back from you then  ;D     ;D

Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 10 October 2016, 17:14:40
So, you're getting it ready for me to buy it back from you then  ;D     ;D

Watch this thread late tonight for a further biggish update with pictures.

I don't think you'll be using your Vauxhall dealer again anytime soon ;D
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: zirk on 10 October 2016, 18:05:12
So, you're getting it ready for me to buy it back from you then  ;D     ;D

Watch this thread late tonight for a further biggish update with pictures.

I don't think you'll be using your Vauxhall dealer again anytime soon ;D

Vauxhall make cars, nobody said they were any good at keeping them on the road.  ;)

England invented Football but when was the last We won the World Cup.  ;D
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: STEMO on 10 October 2016, 18:08:28
So, you're getting it ready for me to buy it back from you then  ;D     ;D

Watch this thread late tonight for a further biggish update with pictures.

I don't think you'll be using your Vauxhall dealer again anytime soon ;D

Vauxhall make cars, nobody said they were any good at keeping them on the road.  ;)

England invented Football but when was the last We won the World Cup.  ;D
1966.
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 10 October 2016, 21:31:49
Here are a few photo's after the MOT and the valet. As you can see, not perfect, but presentable enough for her age:

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/238190EA-9C0E-47F5-9155-164398962647_zpso5iiphj8.jpg)

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/FAB36C26-6FE3-4914-B7F3-677B14E75E6D_zpsx7n4747m.jpg)

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/8A222CD7-C98F-4BE6-9530-F95F05638AD0_zpstnekgwe5.jpg)

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/4735B529-10E9-453E-BA00-91EF3637FBC1_zpsqgz8pdwa.jpg)

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/C3E6CAD2-6633-43E2-91AB-50C37E9A720E_zpsoef8wdxt.jpg)

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/75D2B1BC-E9BA-45A2-B50E-F510FA83FCB1_zpsi0ixvrwc.jpg)

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/1E121656-967F-4A19-BB43-368B44C99646_zpsdljflzdx.jpg)

Also as you can See, Rog, I have re fitted all of the trim in the luggage area:


(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/E6968E61-5F0A-44E6-B41B-9B0FECF51738_zpsjdj11hfn.jpg)

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/5974D4A2-335D-4F0C-9FD0-AFF4E70D8987_zpsptvlhowq.jpg)

Damage to NSF door:

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/50A32E79-449B-4BB1-AC86-0A58C4BEE53A_zpskadqgthp.jpg)

Small Bumper Scrape:

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/68380066-17A0-46CA-B6BD-95F137992DD7_zpslwgkuzk0.jpg)

Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 10 October 2016, 21:39:11
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/4B9B8ABE-FFDD-4037-8715-84893C096581_zpsubknx19u.jpg)

Shiny!!
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 10 October 2016, 21:45:55
A few under bonnet pictures of todays repairs to follow, once my annoying iPhone decides to upload them to photobucket!

Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: Mister Rog on 10 October 2016, 21:48:55
It's really wierd seeing pics of "your" car posted by someone else. But I stand by my decision and happy to see it "not cubed"  :y

Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 10 October 2016, 21:49:40
I'm hoping you will be pleased to watch the ongoing restoration work, Rog :y :y
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 10 October 2016, 21:56:06
Keep it up, It's nice to see them being saved rather than being scrapped or drifting away in Ireland to destruction.  :y
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 10 October 2016, 22:02:00
So today after the absolute result in the MOT test....

I decided to look at why, for a 3.2, to use TheBoy's expression, it felt as flat as a witches tit. I also thought I'd look at where the oil leak was coming from at the front of the engine.

I could see the oil pressure switch has been done in the not too distant past, probably to try and cure the leak onto the top of the sump at the front. Having cleaned off the oil and it coming back I knew it wasn't that.

I therefore suspected the front crankshaft oil seal. In light of the multirams working well etc, I also suspected the Vauxhall dealer had murdered the cambelt installation, resulting in the flat performance.

So, off with the plenum, bagpipes, inlets stuff blah blah blah.

Upon checking the valve timing, on the cambelt setup, it was WELL over a tooth out on all cams. It's no problem for me, but if I'd paid Vauxhall the amount they had been paid, and this was the result, I would have been absolutely fuming:

So this was with the crank locked at TDC - this is over a tooth out!

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/079270FD-A6A4-4B70-B43F-F76A45E4756C_zpscnnqeiuz.jpg)

The above was the same across all 4 cams, so I won't post all 4 pictures, you get the idea.

Vauxhall want SHOOTING!!

They have also vastly over tensioned the belt. It's done 15k only, yet grease EVERYWHERE through probably excess pulley wear due to incorrect fitment. A brand new cambelt kit will be going back on, I don't trust this one.

Anyhow, here we are with the entire cambelt kit off:

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/04151436-327C-4393-9941-22EE795D3E37_zpsue25cqgo.jpg)


And, as you can see, the oil is clearly coming from the crank seal, now the sprocket is removed:

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/0DD9BBC1-9AC1-4D2A-86B8-3A9DDAFDF2E9_zpsl1is89ar.jpg)

And here is the offending item:


(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/2A046552-C0D7-4FAF-8991-4B8A9AAD5FEF_zpsovbevjlc.jpg)



And here you see the oil leak before it was taken apart (you can see it on top of the upper sump)

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/8C36623D-2D1B-451E-B1A7-4F190DE97FE8_zps3pielg31.jpg)



So tomorrow, I pick up new crank seal etc etc from dealers. As and when I feel up to it, I'll put it all back together and she should now be oil tight!


Goes without saying, full service and extensive breather clean will occur at the same time.....








Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: Lazydocker on 10 October 2016, 22:51:57
Good to see you're up to some work now James :y

Now, not wanting to argue, but the camshaft timing is 1/2 a tooth out in that picture by my reckoning :-\ Not that it matters... Out is out ::)
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 10 October 2016, 22:58:36
About 90 minutes is my absolute limit in a day. But it's certainly something. And as said before I'm being pushed to be as active as possible to recover, without being silly.

I agree, it's not quite a tooth out. Still a poor show for a dealership though :y
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: Lazydocker on 10 October 2016, 23:01:25
About 90 minutes is my absolute limit in a day. But it's certainly something. And as said before I'm being pushed to be as active as possible to recover, without being silly.

I agree, it's not quite a tooth out. Still a poor show for a dealership though :y

Firstly, don't overdo it!

Secondly, don't overdo it!

Thirdly, don't overdo it!

Is that clear? ::)

As for the timing... Are you surprised?
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 10 October 2016, 23:10:49
Not at all surprised. First time I gave her some beans I suspected it.

Don't worry I won't overdo it. Beforehand, I'd have chased around after the part, and got it all back together, probably by torchlight if needsbe. Those days are long, long gone. It's here for my pleasure and recovery, so will be slowly enjoyed, as such :y :y
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 11 October 2016, 11:48:00
Don't forget to take the spacer on the crank off (which the seal inner lip runs on) , clean it up and put it on the other way round so the lip seal has a fresh clean face to run on.
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 11 October 2016, 11:54:33
Don't forget to take the spacer on the crank off (which the seal inner lip runs on) , clean it up and put it on the other way round so the lip seal has a fresh clean face to run on.

:y :y
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 11 October 2016, 21:52:55
No progress today, back too sore and I was given the wrong bloody seal, far too small  >:( >:(

On the plus side:

- I have sourced a mint door, to replace the one that's all scuffed up  8) I need to get up to Nottingham to get it, but I'm sure I will at some point in the not too distant future


I have been doing some research and trying to get quotes for the rear wheel bearing. Most garages either won't touch it, or want about 5 hours worth of labour per side.

No balls, no glory. It might take a while, (I may need a helper to yank on breaker bars, etc) but, I'm doing the rear bearings myself. There's no rush. And that way I can also do both rears. I have figured that, if one has failed, the other won't be far behind. I can also renew the handbrake shoes, discs, and pads at the same time.

Still no idea what the end goal is for this car. I'm not sure I can bear to part with the 530d touring, because in the nicest possible way, it's better than an Omega  :-[

But I am itching to play again  ::)




Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: Nick W on 11 October 2016, 22:04:08
No progress today, back too sore and I was given the wrong bloody seal, far too small  >:( >:(

I have been doing some research and trying to get quotes for the rear wheel bearing. Most garages either won't touch it, or want about 5 hours worth of labour per side.

No balls, no glory. It might take a while, (I may need a helper to yank on breaker bars, etc) but, I'm doing the rear bearings myself. There's no rush. And that way I can also do both rears. I have figured that, if one has failed, the other won't be far behind. I can also renew the handbrake shoes, discs, and pads at the same time.



I bought my crank seal over the counter from ECP for about £7. It's one of the usual industrial brands and fitted perfectly.


I reckon a wheel bearing is two hours work, doing the job in the street. That's easily 90 minutes with the car on a ramp. Quotes for five hours are to make you go away. My tools require dismantling the handbrake mechanism which adds some time, but means there's no likelihood of damaging the hub or new bearing. I've PM'd you. There's no point in changing both, just do the one that has failed. New brakes shoes while it's apart is definitely a good idea.
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: Steve B on 12 October 2016, 11:50:01
No progress today, back too sore and I was given the wrong bloody seal, far too small  >:( >:(

On the plus side:

- I have sourced a mint door, to replace the one that's all scuffed up  8) I need to get up to Nottingham to get it, but I'm sure I will at some point in the not too distant future


I have been doing some research and trying to get quotes for the rear wheel bearing. Most garages either won't touch it, or want about 5 hours worth of labour per side.

No balls, no glory. It might take a while, (I may need a helper to yank on breaker bars, etc) but, I'm doing the rear bearings myself. There's no rush. And that way I can also do both rears. I have figured that, if one has failed, the other won't be far behind. I can also renew the handbrake shoes, discs, and pads at the same time.

Still no idea what the end goal is for this car. I'm not sure I can bear to part with the 530d touring, because in the nicest possible way, it's better than an Omega  :-[

But I am itching to play again  ::)
I Take it james your off to see Nigel....So far ive had two doors,two wings and the rear bumper off that Z594 saloon he had and now your gonna grab the other front door...  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 08 December 2016, 18:05:40
No mention of ANY of the above work in the ebay advert... which given all the stuff written in read is rather deceptive...

Just in case anyone here is bidding :-X

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-03-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-3-2-V6-MV6-ESTATE-AUTOMATIC-IN-RED-/182379411667?hash=item2a76a8f8d3:g:~T4AAOSw2xRYRtjv
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 09 December 2016, 09:02:34
Any previous stuff done was all to the benefit of the car?

If anything is inaccurate please feel free to point it out and I will amend if suitable?

I cannot see how listing invoices in my possession can ever be deceptive.

As enthusiasts we tinker all the time. I cannot see anyone mentioning every single thing they have done in a for sale ad? We'd be there forever.

Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 09 December 2016, 09:12:31
I am rather upset at the use of the word "deceptive" and as such have reviewed the ad once more.

The only thing I have forgotten to mention  on the advert was that we changed the crank seal, and this I will add.

The fact I forgot to mention we replaced a £30 part (which improved things) may be forgetful, it's not deceptive. When you have sold a 14 year old car have you always remembered every little thing you've done?

Any issues with the car are very honestly listed and to be honest I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve here

Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 09 December 2016, 09:49:22
There is a very easy way to deal with this. I have added the following to the ebay advert:


It has been kindly pointed out by a member on the Omega Owners Forum (of which I am also a member) that I have failed to list some other improvement work carried out on this car.

It has been suggested by this user, that this is deceptive, however, that was never the intention, and I am adding this additional information to ensure clarity and transparency.

Specifically, the crankshaft oil seal was changed, in my ownership, which is something I forgot to mention in the original text. 

In order that I cannot be accused of "hiding" the fact this work was done, please can I ask any potential viewers or buyers to look at this link:

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=137521.0

Frankly, If I were trying to hide anything about the car, I would not have ever posted it on a public forum.

If there are any queries, or requests to view, please don't hesitate to contact me for a visit / chat.



Hopefully, Doctor Gollum, you will now be assured that I am not trying to hide any information from anyone, and that people no longer need to "beware" of my Omega ad.

I have been a respected member of this forum for almost a decade, anyone who knows me will know without question that I would never set out to "have anyone over".

I am upset enough about the fact my physical (and emotional) conditions are deteriorating, and that I am unable to enjoy the mechanical side of these cars anymore, without the suggestion that I'm doing something devious.
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: anV6 on 09 December 2016, 10:00:12
Frankly, I wouldn't worry about what Doctor Gollum says.
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 09 December 2016, 10:08:49
Frankly, I wouldn't worry about what Doctor Gollum says.

I pride myself on my honesty and the fact I have spent so much time helping members here, so the suggestion I would do anything underhand makes me absolutely devastated
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: RobG on 09 December 2016, 10:52:44
Quite a few of DG`s post are antagonistic, sarcastic and sometimes verge on downright rude James. "Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit". "Manners maketh man"
Ignore it James :) :y
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: biggriffin on 09 December 2016, 10:53:17
As usual, he nit picks to get a reaction,.
James ignore what it has said, the previous advert was very descriptive, and honset, I fear the individual in question is upset that he couldn't get the car, and you did, I fear he will deny this with a long winded, rant as we come to expect. 

We may even get the flounce we come to expect, when things go against him.
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: tigers_gonads on 09 December 2016, 11:02:35
Not taking sides here, I can't be arsed .....................  :(

But I will say this .................

This forum used to be a place of piss taking, hilarious fun with a bloody good advise on pretty much everything thrown in for good measure  :y :y

Nowdays, its about friggin ego's and keyboard warriors and dickheads trying to out do each other  :(


FFS lads, lighten up will yeh before even more long time members opps off  :(
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 December 2016, 11:08:58
Deceptive was the wrong word, and for that I apologise. :-[

It just struck me as rather odd that you put alot of time and effort into the car, yet made absolutely no mention of it :-\

Your recovery was/is always going to be a long process, and whilst frustrating that it doesn't seem to be going as quickly as you might like it too, know your limitations and don't over do it. A slower recovery should be a stronger one...
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: anV6 on 09 December 2016, 11:15:14
Frankly, I wouldn't worry about what Doctor Gollum says.

I pride myself on my honesty and the fact I have spent so much time helping members here, so the suggestion I would do anything underhand makes me absolutely devastated

Don't worry. I saw nothing wrong with your ebay description and I think most would agree. Doctor Gollum was just being his old bitter obnoxious self.
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 09 December 2016, 11:16:14
Deceptive was the wrong word, and for that I apologise. :-[

It just struck me as rather odd that you put alot of time and effort into the car, yet made absolutely no mention of it :-\

Your recovery was/is always going to be a long process, and whilst frustrating that it doesn't seem to be going as quickly as you might like it too, know your limitations and don't over do it. A slower recovery should be a stronger one...

Apology gratefully accepted :y

I think maybe next time the approach could be "Hey James I think you need to clarify something in your ad" rather than "anyone bidding beware" ;) but we are all adults so let's move on from this
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: biggriffin on 09 December 2016, 11:19:30
Deceptive was the wrong word, and for that I apologise. :-[

It just struck me as rather odd that you put alot of time and effort into the car, yet made absolutely no mention of it :-\

Your recovery was/is always going to be a long process, and whilst frustrating that it doesn't seem to be going as quickly as you might like it too, know your limitations and don't over do it. A slower recovery should be a stronger one...

Eating a pie beginning in H.
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 09 December 2016, 11:27:29


Your recovery was/is always going to be a long process, and whilst frustrating that it doesn't seem to be going as quickly as you might like it too, know your limitations and don't over do it. A slower recovery should be a stronger one...


My consultant / work / physio all say the same.

Problem at the moment is the cold and damp, I'm SO stiff and sore.

Ref the car, I really want to keep it. But it will be months before I can do things like the bearing.
I know others will gladly assist but I'm so used to doing my own stuff I'm not sure I want to own an Omega and rely on others to maintain it :(

I will never say never but I dont think I will buy another until when (if) I'm a lot better. For now I'd like this one to go to a good home and be enjoyed :y
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 09 December 2016, 11:55:48
Please keep giving us more of the good work, James, always look forward to it. I do look at what you do with your cars and find myself thinking 'I hope to be that/him one day'  :y
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: STEMO on 09 December 2016, 12:35:04
Finished bickering, pussies?  ;D
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: STEMO on 09 December 2016, 12:47:43
Piccy of the passenger door that you don't like, James?
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 December 2016, 12:56:24
Piccy of the passenger door that you don't like, James?
Post 9 ;)
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: STEMO on 09 December 2016, 13:03:33
Piccy of the passenger door that you don't like, James?
Post 9 ;)
That's the pic before it was resprayed?  :-\
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 09 December 2016, 13:20:23
Piccy of the passenger door that you don't like, James?
Post 9 ;)
That's the pic before it was resprayed?  :-\

Don't you start!!
Still hoping to source new door, just haven't written that on the ad until I know for sure
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: STEMO on 09 December 2016, 13:34:17
Hang on a cotton pickin minute. I see a door in post #9 that has been scraped. I see a sentence in the ad that says "Front passenger door has been resprayed due to a car park scrape, and the spray job is amateur, and nowhere near as professional as the rest of the car. It's a different shade, easily noticed and I don't like it. ", but no picture of it.
So....is the door as it was in post 9 , or has it had a shitty respray or not? And, as you say in the ad that the door is not good, then sure any potential bidder would want to see a picture of it?
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 09 December 2016, 13:41:40
Crikey, this thread is like the Spanish Inquisition.

What is on the eBay ad is correct. I had someone respray the door to fix that scrape. The spray job is very poor.  This is all VERY clearly stated.

As per my PM when you asked exactly the same thing, I am hopeful to source another door prior to the auction ending, but I will not write this in the ad until it is in my possession.

I am gobsmacked as to why people are pulling me to bits here
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: STEMO on 09 December 2016, 13:56:27
Crikey, this thread is like the Spanish Inquisition.

What is on the eBay ad is correct. I had someone respray the door to fix that scrape. The spray job is very poor.  This is all VERY clearly stated.

As per my PM when you asked exactly the same thing, I am hopeful to source another door prior to the auction ending, but I will not write this in the ad until it is in my possession.

I am gobsmacked as to why people are pulling me to bits here
I was asking questions because I was genuinely thinking of bidding, but if not being able to see the door which you describe as 'an amateur respray' is making me think, then I'm sure others must wonder why there's no picture in the ad. It's really simple, James, if you describe something in an ad, then there should be a picture of it, so that people can make their own mind up.
You have not stated in the ad that you are looking for a door, so people must assume it comes with the unshown one.
No one is pulling you to bits.......well, I'm not anyway.
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 09 December 2016, 14:01:32
Crikey, this thread is like the Spanish Inquisition.

What is on the eBay ad is correct. I had someone respray the door to fix that scrape. The spray job is very poor.  This is all VERY clearly stated.

As per my PM when you asked exactly the same thing, I am hopeful to source another door prior to the auction ending, but I will not write this in the ad until it is in my possession.

I am gobsmacked as to why people are pulling me to bits here
I was asking questions because I was genuinely thinking of bidding, but if not being able to see the door which you describe as 'an amateur respray' is making me think, then I'm sure others must wonder why there's no picture in the ad. It's really simple, James, if you describe something in an ad, then there should be a picture of it, so that people can make their own mind up.
You have not stated in the ad that you are looking for a door, so people must assume it comes with the unshown one.
No one is pulling you to bits.......well, I'm not anyway.

Ok that's all fair enough. I will keep you posted with my quest to find a door.
If no joy then tonight I will take a pic of the current one.
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: ted_one on 09 December 2016, 15:54:37
Christ that's made my mind up,all my cars are going off to the Emerald Isle, as those boys are gagging for them with no questions asked ;) because due to my advancing years and general state of confusion I will never remember what's been done to them :)
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 09 December 2016, 15:59:47
I think I'm going to have to pull the ad.

Started her up today. Rev counter fubar and speedo flickering.

Anyone have any late v6 dash clocks? Will collect tonight if you're not miles away
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: powerslinky on 09 December 2016, 16:11:23
Frankly, I wouldn't worry about what Doctor Gollum says.
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Exactly . . .Don't bite James  . .

I think he's is pi*sing a few members off with his " I'm always right  . .KIA" attitude

Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: STEMO on 09 December 2016, 16:19:56
Frankly, I wouldn't worry about what Doctor Gollum says.
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Exactly . . .Don't bite James  . .

I think he's is pi*sing a few members off with his " I'm always right  . .KIA" attitude
He owns a KIA. Ban the bastard.  ;D
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: Andy H on 09 December 2016, 16:45:36
I think I'm going to have to pull the ad.

Started her up today. Rev counter fubar and speedo flickering.

Anyone have any late v6 dash clocks? Will collect tonight if you're not miles away
Have you checked the alternator output? Have you tried re-seating the cluster?
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: VXL V6 on 09 December 2016, 22:27:55
I think I'm going to have to pull the ad.

Started her up today. Rev counter fubar and speedo flickering.

Anyone have any late v6 dash clocks? Will collect tonight if you're not miles away

Have a few here James, Might have one close to the correct mileage if your lucky! Only problem with them will be the usual rev counter sticking and jumping from 2K to 3K.
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 10 December 2016, 09:35:57
Speedo issue sorted and original clocks fitted.

Alternator output was fine but battery voltage was low. Probably where I've not used her much. It's fine after a charge :y
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: biggriffin on 10 December 2016, 09:45:46
Christ that's made my mind up,all my cars are going off to the Emerald Isle, :)


Hay Mr, does it have a lsd, will it do 8000 revs in 2nd, does it go round, and round.Have ya taken the locks off the wishbones!. I give ya €500, and my old corrola, if ya deliver it to Hollyhead. Western union
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: ted_one on 10 December 2016, 13:29:59
Answer yes! two have,and after reading this thread and James having to clarify in minute detail about the efforts he has made to save the car,mine WILL being going to N.I just to piss you lot off ;D and in all honesty I would rather see them drifted as to people coming on here and hole picking about a 15 year old car.FFS! ::)
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: YZ250 on 10 December 2016, 13:45:51
Answer yes! two have,and after reading this thread and James having to clarify in minute detail about the efforts he has made to save the car,mine WILL being going to N.I just to piss you lot off ;D and in all honesty I would rather see them drifted as to people coming on here and hole picking about a 15 year old car.FFS! ::)

They don't do that do they Ken, surely not?  ::)  Can't say I've noticed and thought they were all very supportive of a member selling a car with a zillion miles on and with a few niggles.  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: ted_one on 10 December 2016, 15:24:53
Just seems a shame that one persons efforts are being put under scrutiny for all the wrong reasons,I only wish that I had the mechanical abilities of James and quite a few others on this forum who's expertise and experience have kept my three cars and countless others on the road and surprisingly in good fettle.I fail to see why that on an Omega forum there seems to be a vein of piss taking from ex owners who I find their so called 'banter' to say the least irritating,  and I'm of the opinion that this is why this forum is not a pleasant place to visit anymore.If you haven't got anything constructive about to say about my choice of cars,then perhaps you should jog on and go bother someone else.I actually enjoy owning and driving these cars and regardless of certain jaundiced opinions I'll carry on doing just that,my apologies if that offends who ever but DILLIGAF! Rant over .....just! >:(
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: henryd on 10 December 2016, 15:43:41
Just seems a shame that one persons efforts are being put under scrutiny for all the wrong reasons,I only wish that I had the mechanical abilities of James and quite a few others on this forum who's expertise and experience have kept my three cars and countless others on the road and surprisingly in good fettle.I fail to see why that on an Omega forum there seems to be a vein of piss taking from ex owners who I find their so called 'banter' to say the least irritating,  and I'm of the opinion that this is why this forum is not a pleasant place to visit anymore.If you haven't got anything constructive about to say about my choice of cars,then perhaps you should jog on and go bother someone else.I actually enjoy owning and driving these cars and regardless of certain jaundiced opinions I'll carry on doing just that,my apologies if that offends who ever but DILLIGAF! Rant over .....just! >:(

Fair comment mate,James is probably one the most trustworthy on the forum to buy a car from.
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: ted_one on 10 December 2016, 16:36:31
He's a good guy,and so are many others on here,and I for one wouldn't want this forum to get watered down by scaring off new members with the type of negativity described in my previous post.I have met other members socially and it's a real treat to get together with them, and we always look forward to the curry nights and breakfast meets.So instead of knocking someone for their efforts,we should be encouraging them to share their experiences, which in turn adds to the vast amount of technical help available on here,and let's face it where would we be without it? :-\ :)
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: ronnyd on 10 December 2016, 16:38:59
Not really wanting to get too involved in this latest spat, but, i does clearly state in James ad that he advises anyone to view before they bid. Anyone then would be able to make up their own minds on the quality of repairs and the general condition of the car. I, for one, would never buy a car without seeing it first, though i know that others have bought unseen and have been happy with their purchase. You pays ya money and makes ya choice. Hope the recovery continues well James.
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: ted_one on 10 December 2016, 17:01:28
Agreed,James is honest to a fault, and as you say inspecting any for sale car is part of the process before parting with your hard earned.I'm actually amazed that James hasn't said f**k it! I'm outa here for good,but knowing him he's fairly laid back and seems to soak up the flak for his efforts.Talk about the spirit of OOF ;D ;D
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 10 December 2016, 17:26:07
Having bought several cars of eBay over the years you take a chance no matter what, just ask the seller questions in a polite way and if they are genuine they will normally reply honestly, the way some members have harangued this member is beyond belief. The car looks good to me  & let's face it you are not going to be spending your life's savings.James I hope you recovery goes well , you must feel very frustrated with not being able to work to full ability.
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: powerslinky on 10 December 2016, 17:33:41
Having bought several cars of eBay over the years you take a chance no matter what, just ask the seller questions in a polite way and if they are genuine they will normally reply honestly, the way some members have harangued this member is beyond belief. The car looks good to me  & let's face it you are not going to be spending your life's savings.

+ 1   I agree & second  all thats stated in this post  :y      I have also had dealings with James  & hold him in the highest esteem for his knowledge & his honesty :y :y     

Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: X30XE on 10 December 2016, 20:20:58
James, thanks for your posts regarding Range Rovers. Very useful to me. Much appreciated.  :y

Good luck with the sale and your recovery.

And ALWAYS remember...   DO NOT FEED THE TROLL 

Having been on and off here since 'here' was a yahoo group (flounce counter = 0, btw) I can say that it is high time that this forum is turned into the non interactive information database that the admins have mooted it will become one day. 

Rather than an enthusiasts group it has become a collection of cynical arse trumpets who actively seek to devalue the second hand Omega market.  >:(

I actually had some bell cheese from here contact me via ebay when I was selling my Omega to tell me how he had 6 omegas in his family and how they were all better than mine and that they weren't worth as much as I was asking.  Unsurprisingly my car sold for in excess of 2k thus proving he was talking out of his arsepiece.  ::)

Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: STEMO on 10 December 2016, 20:59:05
'Bell cheese'....    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  I like that. ;D
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: Andy H on 10 December 2016, 21:04:09
'Bell cheese'....    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  I like that. ;D
Each to their own............
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: Mister Rog on 10 December 2016, 22:06:09
'Bell cheese'....    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  I like that. ;D

Well, you would wouldn't you

Personally I prefer "le parfum d'une femme"     ;D
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: Mister Rog on 10 December 2016, 22:10:04
While I'm here . . . . what the hell is going on here  ?
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: ronnyd on 10 December 2016, 22:16:40
While I'm here . . . . what the hell is going on here  ?

Start from the top and just work ya way down. ;)
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: STEMO on 10 December 2016, 22:17:25
While I'm here . . . . what the hell is going on here  ?
Well, it's like this, Rog. You're a troublemaker see boyo, selling your car has caused aggravation innit.  ;D
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: Andy H on 07 January 2017, 09:49:36
No progress today, back too sore and I was given the wrong bloody seal, far too small  >:( >:(

On the plus side:

- I have sourced a mint door, to replace the one that's all scuffed up  8) I need to get up to Nottingham to get it, but I'm sure I will at some point in the not too distant future


I have been doing some research and trying to get quotes for the rear wheel bearing. Most garages either won't touch it, or want about 5 hours worth of labour per side.

No balls, no glory. It might take a while, (I may need a helper to yank on breaker bars, etc) but, I'm doing the rear bearings myself. There's no rush. And that way I can also do both rears. I have figured that, if one has failed, the other won't be far behind. I can also renew the handbrake shoes, discs, and pads at the same time.

Still no idea what the end goal is for this car. I'm not sure I can bear to part with the 530d touring, because in the nicest possible way, it's better than an Omega  :-[

But I am itching to play again  ::)
Not sure if James is still watching the forum :-\ can anyone tell me if this door is still available?
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: powerslinky on 07 January 2017, 11:35:34
No progress today, back too sore and I was given the wrong bloody seal, far too small  >:( >:(

On the plus side:

- I have sourced a mint door, to replace the one that's all scuffed up  8) I need to get up to Nottingham to get it, but I'm sure I will at some point in the not too distant future


I have been doing some research and trying to get quotes for the rear wheel bearing. Most garages either won't touch it, or want about 5 hours worth of labour per side.

No balls, no glory. It might take a while, (I may need a helper to yank on breaker bars, etc) but, I'm doing the rear bearings myself. There's no rush. And that way I can also do both rears. I have figured that, if one has failed, the other won't be far behind. I can also renew the handbrake shoes, discs, and pads at the same time.

Still no idea what the end goal is for this car. I'm not sure I can bear to part with the 530d touring, because in the nicest possible way, it's better than an Omega  :-[

But I am itching to play again  ::)
Not sure if James is still watching the forum :-\ can anyone tell me if this door is still available?

Think that James was getting this from nigel at Omegas52 . . .will PM you his number . mention to him  you are an oof member  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: Andy H on 28 April 2018, 09:27:11
So today after the absolute result in the MOT test....

I decided to look at why, for a 3.2, to use TheBoy's expression, it felt as flat as a witches tit. I also thought I'd look at where the oil leak was coming from at the front of the engine.

I could see the oil pressure switch has been done in the not too distant past, probably to try and cure the leak onto the top of the sump at the front. Having cleaned off the oil and it coming back I knew it wasn't that.

I therefore suspected the front crankshaft oil seal. In light of the multirams working well etc, I also suspected the Vauxhall dealer had murdered the cambelt installation, resulting in the flat performance.

So, off with the plenum, bagpipes, inlets stuff blah blah blah.

Upon checking the valve timing, on the cambelt setup, it was WELL over a tooth out on all cams. It's no problem for me, but if I'd paid Vauxhall the amount they had been paid, and this was the result, I would have been absolutely fuming:

So this was with the crank locked at TDC - this is over a tooth out!

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/079270FD-A6A4-4B70-B43F-F76A45E4756C_zpscnnqeiuz.jpg)

The above was the same across all 4 cams, so I won't post all 4 pictures, you get the idea.

Vauxhall want SHOOTING!!

They have also vastly over tensioned the belt. It's done 15k only, yet grease EVERYWHERE through probably excess pulley wear due to incorrect fitment. A brand new cambelt kit will be going back on, I don't trust this one.

Anyhow, here we are with the entire cambelt kit off:

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/04151436-327C-4393-9941-22EE795D3E37_zpsue25cqgo.jpg)


And, as you can see, the oil is clearly coming from the crank seal, now the sprocket is removed:

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/0DD9BBC1-9AC1-4D2A-86B8-3A9DDAFDF2E9_zpsl1is89ar.jpg)

And here is the offending item:


(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/2A046552-C0D7-4FAF-8991-4B8A9AAD5FEF_zpsovbevjlc.jpg)



And here you see the oil leak before it was taken apart (you can see it on top of the upper sump)

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/8C36623D-2D1B-451E-B1A7-4F190DE97FE8_zps3pielg31.jpg)



So tomorrow, I pick up new crank seal etc etc from dealers. As and when I feel up to it, I'll put it all back together and she should now be oil tight!


Goes without saying, full service and extensive breather clean will occur at the same time.....
Sorry for the resurrection of a dusty old thread....
I need to fix this oil leak again.
When I first started driving the Project MV6 there was just a hint of oil loss from the front of the engine but over the last few weeks it has turned into a flood :(
Rereading James's description of what was done I am wondering whether a smear of sealant is required to prevent oil sneaking out between the spacer and the crank. :-\
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 28 April 2018, 10:33:21
Oil pressure switch :y
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: Andy H on 30 April 2018, 08:33:23
Oil pressure switch :y
The oil is being flung out from behind the bottom pulley. I  haven't discounted the pressure switch completely but I don't think it is the source :-\
Title: Re: Project MV6 - MOT result (Mr Rog's old car)
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 30 April 2018, 13:09:58
Possible that the seal seat was damaged on removal... had this happen to me on one of my plods rear crank seal... never did seal right even after a second seal was fitted to it having deburred the damaged area... the screw I used to remove the seal obviously hadn't gone in straight and just nicked the face as I pulled the seal. :'(