Topic: Modern small diesels (Read 3044 times)

TheBoy · « **on:** 14 June 2009, 18:30:46 »

As some of you know, just got back from a family break in sunny Spain.

The hire car I had was a Fiat Punto diesel, I'm guessing one of the 1.3 ones.

It was a great little car on the motorways, plenty of go in the 100-150kph range.

But, it showed the usual traits of small, overblown diesels. Absolute zero power until it hit around 2,500rpm, when it all came in in one hit, and had all gone by 4,500rpm.

The villa had a very steep drive (around 75%). Only way to get up it was to get it revving at 2.5k, then use the clutch. Took a few days to perfect it without loosing traction

Handbrake was shot as well, only 18000km on the clock as well.

i260 · « **Reply #1 on:** 14 June 2009, 19:45:58 »

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As some of you know, just got back from a family break in sunny Spain.

The hire car I had was a Fiat Punto diesel, I'm guessing one of the 1.3 ones.

It was a great little car on the motorways, plenty of go in the 100-150kph range.

But, it showed the usual traits of small, overblown diesels. Absolute zero power until it hit around 2,500rpm, when it all came in in one hit, and had all gone by 4,500rpm.

The villa had a very steep drive (around 75%). Only way to get up it was to get it revving at 2.5k, then use the clutch. Took a few days to perfect it without loosing traction

Handbrake was shot as well, only 18000km on the clock as well.[/[/b]quote]

I refer to your earlier sentence, it was a FIAT!

Andy B · « **Reply #2 on:** 14 June 2009, 20:41:47 »

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The villa had a very steep drive (around 75%). .....

75%?

What's that in English? :-/ 25% equals 1 in 4 ie up 25 units in 100 at 75% you're talking about a wall!

TheBoy · « **Reply #3 on:** 14 June 2009, 21:01:31 »

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The villa had a very steep drive (around 75%). .....

75%?
What's that in English? :-/ 25% equals 1 in 4 ie up 25 units in 100 at 75% you're talking about a wall!

rather steep!

Lazydocker · « **Reply #4 on:** 14 June 2009, 21:33:40 »

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As some of you know, just got back from a family break in sunny Spain.

The hire car I had was a Fiat Punto diesel, I'm guessing one of the 1.3 ones.

It was a great little car on the motorways, plenty of go in the 100-150kph range.

But, it showed the usual traits of small, overblown diesels. Absolute zero power until it hit around 2,500rpm, when it all came in in one hit, and had all gone by 4,500rpm.

The villa had a very steep drive (around 75%). Only way to get up it was to get it revving at 2.5k, then use the clutch. Took a few days to perfect it without loosing traction

Handbrake was shot as well, only 18000km on the clock as well.

The whole car had probably seen better days TBH after a load of brits borrowed it and drove it like they'd stolen it!

Omega man 2 · « **Reply #5 on:** 14 June 2009, 21:49:08 »

Small??

Modern??

Diesel??

Sorry but you've lost me there :-/

semisheen · « **Reply #6 on:** 14 June 2009, 22:03:07 »

At work we had a 55 reg fiesta diesel ....funny sort of power......up to 2500 revs it had amazing Torqe but nothing after 3000....it reved on but there was nothing else up there

Del Boy · « **Reply #7 on:** 14 June 2009, 22:19:14 »

Did you think the build quality was bad TB? My dad had one on hire worst quality i've ever known boot sounded plastic when you shut it

TheBoy · « **Reply #8 on:** 14 June 2009, 22:26:12 »

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As some of you know, just got back from a family break in sunny Spain.

The hire car I had was a Fiat Punto diesel, I'm guessing one of the 1.3 ones.

It was a great little car on the motorways, plenty of go in the 100-150kph range.

But, it showed the usual traits of small, overblown diesels. Absolute zero power until it hit around 2,500rpm, when it all came in in one hit, and had all gone by 4,500rpm.

The villa had a very steep drive (around 75%). Only way to get up it was to get it revving at 2.5k, then use the clutch. Took a few days to perfect it without loosing traction

Handbrake was shot as well, only 18000km on the clock as well.

The whole car had probably seen better days TBH after a load of brits borrowed it and drove it like they'd stolen it!

It certainly looked worse after my brothers girlfriend parked it in a BMW

TheBoy · « **Reply #9 on:** 14 June 2009, 22:28:40 »

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Did you think the build quality was bad TB? My dad had one on hire worst quality i've ever known boot sounded plastic when you shut it

For a cheap budget car, build quality was reasonable. yes a few rattles, and a bit too plastic.

Probably not a car I would chose, but if I did, I'm sure it would do the job. Just wouldn't tolerate that engine though!

Elite Pete · « **Reply #10 on:** 15 June 2009, 08:39:52 »

My Rover 25 diesel will pull your fillings out from standing up to 3000rpm then dies a death, probably something to do with the decat and chip but I still get about 50mpg and its quick up to 80mph.

semisheen · « **Reply #11 on:** 15 June 2009, 08:51:23 »

The “L” series is an excellent engine simple but very efficient
Ive had 5 Rover 600’s in the past ran 3 of them on home made Bio with no problems at all

i260 · « **Reply #12 on:** 15 June 2009, 12:10:54 »

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At work we had a 55 reg fiesta diesel ....funny sort of power......up to 2500 revs it had amazing Torqe but nothing after 3000....it reved on but there was nothing else up there

No turbo syndrome?

semisheen · « **Reply #13 on:** 15 June 2009, 17:23:54 »

Probably .....i never looked under the bonet ....it was a pool car so it just got udes & abused

cem_devecioglu · « **Reply #14 on:** 15 June 2009, 17:37:00 »

modern and small car ok..

but buying a used diesel reminds me trouble unless its very low on mileage and not clocked..

so I buy a petrol clit

and it really is good on mpg so I dont need to convert to lpg..

TheBoy · « **Reply #15 on:** 15 June 2009, 18:47:13 »

L series rover engine was indeed a class leading lump in its day. In std form, a bit unpowered by today's overblown lumps, but easily resolved

semisheen · « **Reply #16 on:** 15 June 2009, 19:05:12 »

Diesels have sure come along way
a bloke at work's got a (hate to say this ) "BMW" 335 coupe jobbie ....its completly out of my leauge ...but the performance is absoloutly mindblowing ...i hear people slag diesels off saying slow smelly cr*p things my old R reg megga probably is to some people .....but the modern diesel is a whole new ball game ....it just seems posts ive read in the past some people have a verry blinkerd view :-/

TheBoy · « **Reply #17 on:** 15 June 2009, 19:17:43 »

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Diesels have sure come along way
a bloke at work's got a (hate to say this ) "BMW" 335 coupe jobbie ....its completly out of my leauge ...but the performance is absoloutly mindblowing ...i hear people slag diesels off saying slow smelly cr*p things my old R reg megga probably is to some people .....but the modern diesel is a whole new ball game ....it just seems posts ive read in the past some people have a verry blinkerd view :-/

bmw probably lead the way in large car diesels. the engines are overrated though.

bmw struggle with the smaller diesels, which will have a massive financial burden on them when eu rules take effect

semisheen · « **Reply #18 on:** 15 June 2009, 19:25:27 »

I think the worst diesel car i ever had was a rover 825 it had a "VM" engine looked a bit like a 4 cylider lister Diesel waterpump engine (if they made 1 )..4 heads .many people like them but the 1 had wouldnt pull you out of bed

theowletman · « **Reply #19 on:** 15 June 2009, 19:27:53 »

In my last job I delivered a 58 plate Astra diesel to a customer. I was very impressed with this car, took it over 120 miles to Preston, excellent MPG, great performance, decent car. Imagine my surprise when I looked at the badge - 1.3 CDTI !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I thought it was a 1.9 at least.

Omegatoy · « **Reply #20 on:** 15 June 2009, 19:36:46 »

you went to spain and didnt let me know!!!!

you traitor!!!

where abouts???

TheBoy · « **Reply #21 on:** 15 June 2009, 20:09:33 »

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In my last job I delivered a 58 plate Astra diesel to a customer. I was very impressed with this car, took it over 120 miles to Preston, excellent MPG, great performance, decent car. Imagine my surprise when I looked at the badge - 1.3 CDTI !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I thought it was a 1.9 at least.

I am underwhelmed with 1.3cdti astras - its what we get at work now.

TheBoy · « **Reply #22 on:** 15 June 2009, 20:11:02 »

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you went to spain and didnt let me know!!!!
you traitor!!!
where abouts???

La Manga Club, near, surprisingly, La Manga, nr Cartagena.

Sure I mentioned it to you, and you said you were around 2hrs away?

There is a rumour that you are soon over here? Sadly, I can't make next ABS meet

feeutfo · « **Reply #23 on:** 15 June 2009, 20:12:07 »

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you went to spain and didnt let me know!!!!
you traitor!!!
where abouts???

Any good with BMW e39?

its a touring estate, has a mild judder, i can barely notice it but the owner has swapped out all but the lump itself to cure it, no joy, some code keeps popping up, nobody knows what it means incl bmw and the relevant forum :-/

Entwood · « **Reply #24 on:** 15 June 2009, 22:10:05 »

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Diesels have sure come along way
a bloke at work's got a (hate to say this ) "BMW" 335 coupe jobbie ....its completly out of my leauge ...but the performance is absoloutly mindblowing ...i hear people slag diesels off saying slow smelly cr*p things my old R reg megga probably is to some people .....but the modern diesel is a whole new ball game ....it just seems posts ive read in the past some people have a verry blinkerd view :-/

I believe that in the weekends Le Mans 24 Hours the first 3 cars were all diesels, the highest placed petrol engine being the Lola/Aston Martin which was then followed by a second bunch of oil-burners ..

Kevin Wood · « **Reply #25 on:** 15 June 2009, 23:01:14 »

Had a diesel Seat Ibiza (IIRC) in Spain last time I went. Gave it a good spanking in the mountains and it was OK. Would have been better if it could manage another couple of K RPM before changing up though.

Performance aside, anyone who says they're not smelly or smoky is welcome to come for a little jaunt in the Westfield behind one.

Seems a lot of the high end ones are the most smoky. Wonder if it's because they are more likely to get chipped?

Kevin

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