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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 14 July 2019, 16:28:09
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I know F1 has massive underlying problems, but today at Silverstone it produced a superb race. Im sure even TB enjoyed it.
Wheel to wheel battles all over the place and Hamilton winning a record 6th British GP.
Couldn't have asked for much more. :)
Time for Vettel to hang up his helmet I think. Hes now so desperate Im almost embarrassed for him. :D ::)
Why anyone would want to watch the grass grow at the tennis or cricket is beyond me. ::)
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Im sure even TB enjoyed it.
In order to avoid the whole shite, including the traffic issues this week and next, I've ensured I'm an awful long way from it ;)
I believe this year is the last one there :)
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Great race. Felt sorry for Lando.
10 sec penalty when already at back of field. That is a joke.
I thought Silverstone had resigned for six? Years more with F1.
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I thought Silverstone had resigned for six? Years more with F1.
Its possible I've missed something, but I thought they were trying to wiggle out of it, using a break in the contract, due to costs.
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Five year deal signed four days ago.
It would have been unthinkable not to have Silverstone in the calendar. At one point they were planning a stupid London race.
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I always much preferred Brands Hatch, but elf n safety would never allow them to race there now.
Yep, Vettels penalty was a joke. He should have got a one race ban imo.
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80 .......not a million miles from 91.
5..........not a million miles from 7
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I know F1 has massive underlying problems, but today at Silverstone it produced a superb race. Im sure even TB enjoyed it.
Wheel to wheel battles all over the place and Hamilton winning a record 6th British GP.
Couldn't have asked for much more. :)
Time for Vettel to hang up his helmet I think. Hes now so desperate Im almost embarrassed for him. :D ::)
Why anyone would want to watch the grass grow at the tennis or cricket is beyond me. ::)
Bit jammy with the safety car.
WTF were Mercedes thinking about, pit stopping him with five laps to go?
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One race ban would have been more appropriate. Trouble is the fans would be denied him racing.
Maybe best thing for everyone would be for Vettel to hang up his gloves during the summer recess and for Ferarri to hire Alonso for the rest of the season. He could help bring on Leclerc too. Plenty of good up and coming drivers to fill the spot next year.
They had to pit Bottas as he chose to run the same tyres on the first stop. Maybe he didnt like the uncertainty of different tyres ? Plus the game plan would be to get one point for fastest lap on those new tyres. Shame Hamilton did it on old tyres. The mark of a great driver.
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One race ban would have been more appropriate. Trouble is the fans would be denied him racing.
Maybe best thing for everyone would be for Vettel to hang up his gloves during the summer recess and for Ferarri to hire Alonso for the rest of the season. He could help bring on Leclerc too. Plenty of good up and coming drivers to fill the spot next year.
Or, at least, the penalty to be applied at the next Grand Prix.
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My daughter went there for the weekend with her 3 kids, where the middle one, whose 10th birthday is tomorrow, is mad on F1 & that was his birthday treat. Callum in years to come will be able to say, I was there when history was being made. :y :y :y
Vettel after his number 1 driver track position advantage where Leclerc has to yield is now only 3 points ahead of him in the drivers standings. Not sure Vettel will cope with the pressure here on in. :-[ :-X ;D
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Five year deal signed four days ago.
Ah, I've not been home in that time, so missed out on the local gossip.
Grrrrr
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Never mind that. Watch the race. I think you will be pleasantly surprised for once. ;)
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Never mind that. Watch the race. I think you will be pleasantly surprised for once. ;)
From what I've heard, there were 20 laps or so where Leclerc and Max were going at it well. Silverstone is normally around 70 laps?
I think it should be wheel to wheel, flat out, no stops, hell for leather, biggest balls wins, for the complete whole race. Without false aids.
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I completely agree, but within the restrictions they are confined to, the drivers produced a really good race yesterday. :y
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I completely agree, but within the restrictions they are confined to, the drivers produced a really good race yesterday. :y
They certainly did,best race of the year by far :y :y
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Excellent race, action all way through. :)
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Yet again Vettel shows he cannot do wheel to wheel racing, he is now 100 points behind Hamilton
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Ferrari must surely be asking themselves if it is worth the millions they are paying him to keep underperforming.
They could get Lando Norris or George Russell for a fraction of what Vettel costs them.
Leclerc has now settled into the team, so they could take a chance on a new young talent.
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Yet again Vettel shows he cannot do wheel to wheel racing, he is now 100 points behind Hamilton
Did you hear him over the radio? "What was he doing?". Nothing to do with me, guvnor, all Verstapen's fault. Ficking idiot.
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Yet again Vettel shows he cannot do wheel to wheel racing, he is now 100 points behind Hamilton
Did you hear him over the radio? "What was he doing?". Nothing to do with me, guvnor, all Verstapen's fault. Ficking idiot.
Yeah I did :o
Commentators response was brilliant though:
V: 'What was he doing'
C: 'Slowing down for a corner'
;D ;D
It's always someone else's fault with Vettel.
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Meanwhile...………………..its just been announced that they are going to bring back ground effect in 2021 to solve the current problems of F1 racing.
Cant for the life of me see how that's going to help, but we hall see. ???
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Did you see the Lotus 79 on Top Gear.? That was the first ground effects F1 car and romped away from the opposition.
Maybe ground effects will make the car more driveable in the wake of the car you are trying to get past. Maybe it will just be the same as now. Faster perhaps but still not able to overtake.
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Imo that was the point where it all started to go wrong. Aero took precedence over everything else after that.
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Imo that was the point where it all started to go wrong. Aero took precedence over everything else after that.
Quite. The aero efficiency needs to be reduced, so proper racing can happen. All ground effects will do is allow the car behind to get in the 1s false overtaking threshold.
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Jean Todt wants to reintroduce refuelling to improve the racing ! It would improve the chances of strategists winning races rather than the fastest drivers / cars, but maybe he thinks it will give Ferrari a better chance of winning again ? :-\
Personally I would see it as several steps away from real racing and further into Walt Disney territory. ::)
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Short memories too on the dangers in refuelling. Maybe that and the spectacle of something happening ( as in a break in normal procession) is behind it.
Why don't they ask the drivers ?
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Why don't they ask the drivers ?
Because the most vocal are a bunch of namby wimps, not real racers.
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Hamilton has asked to be included in the talks. :y
Whether or not they listen to him is another matter. ::)
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Why don't they ask the drivers ?
Because the most vocal are a bunch of namby wimps, not real racers.
What bracket would you put Jackie Stewart in then?
https://archive.org/details/CPZ-0041 (it's an hour)
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Short memories too on the dangers in refuelling. Maybe that and the spectacle of something happening ( as in a break in normal procession) is behind it.
Why don't they ask the drivers ?
I think they should bring it back pre-war Le Mans style - using a bloke with a jerry can in one hand and a funnel in the other. Oh, and the obligatory fag in his mouth. Should liven things up a bit. :y
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Short memories too on the dangers in refuelling. Maybe that and the spectacle of something happening ( as in a break in normal procession) is behind it.
Why don't they ask the drivers ?
I think they should bring it back pre-war Le Mans style - using a bloke with a jerry can in one hand and a funnel in the other. Oh, and the obligatory fag in his mouth. Should liven things up a bit. :y
Or self serve pumps.
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Short memories too on the dangers in refuelling. Maybe that and the spectacle of something happening ( as in a break in normal procession) is behind it.
Why don't they ask the drivers ?
I think they should bring it back pre-war Le Mans style - using a bloke with a jerry can in one hand and a funnel in the other. Oh, and the obligatory fag in his mouth. Should liven things up a bit. :y
Or self serve pumps.
Why self serve? Let them battle through the attached M&S like we have to. ;D
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German grand prix is worth a watch :y
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It certainly is. The most extraordinary race I have seen in a long time, for all sorts of reasons. :y
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It certainly is. The most extraordinary race I have seen in a long time, for all sorts of reasons. :y
Probably the best I've seen since Canada 2011 when JB came good :y
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I always like damp races. Quite a few surprises.
Vettel drove a good race.
Some rubbish team decisions.
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I thought it was a bit dull. The weather spiced it up, but ultimately didn't make it a better "race"
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It wasn't a great race by any means (although that Irish nobead presenter on C4 said it was the greatest race he had ever seen ! ::) ) - but it was extraordinary in many different ways.
The biggest shock for me, apart from Hamilton making a human mistake, was the complete chaos in the Mercedes pit when he arrived unexpectedly. It was like Laurel & Hardy meets the Chuckle Brothers. :o
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In no way could that debacle be described as a race.
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The biggest shock for me, apart from Hamilton making a human mistake, was the complete chaos in the Mercedes pit when he arrived unexpectedly. It was like Laurel & Hardy meets the Chuckle Brothers. :o
That did raise a smile for me yesterday, although I do loosely support them as they are based in our small little town.
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Another excellent race today. :)
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Another excellent race today. :)
Haven't seen it yet, but know the result. Been traipsing around Scarborough all day.
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Another excellent race today. :)
Haven't seen it yet, but know the result. Been traipsing around Scarborough all day.
Did you enjoy your traipse in the capital of gods own country?
Cracking race today with good overtaking from several drivers.
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Another excellent race today. :)
Haven't seen it yet, but know the result. Been traipsing around Scarborough all day.
Did you enjoy your traipse in the capital of gods own country?
Cracking race today with good overtaking from several drivers.
Scarborough today, Whitby yesterday. Lovely weather and both very busy :y
We are back in Thornton le Dale for the week. It's the annual show on Wednesday, so we'll have to go missing, too many farmers and tractor enthusiasts for my liking. ;D
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Thornton Dale.......... mystery holes in wall country. ;D. Hours of fun on a wet day. :y
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Thornton Dale.......... mystery holes in wall country. ;D. Hours of fun on a wet day. :y
I paid £54 for an annual pass into Dalby Forest before we left, the barriers lift and let us in and out as many times as we like. At £9 a pop for cars, I'll be quids in before the end of the week and still have 51 weeks left. As an honorary Yorkshireman I'll make sure I get my money's worth. ;D
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In fact, I'm gonna bob up there with the dog in an hour or so. :)
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It was a good race,enjoyed that :y :y
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Thornton Dale.......... mystery holes in wall country. ;D. Hours of fun on a wet day. :y
I paid £54 for an annual pass into Dalby Forest before we left, the barriers lift and let us in and out as many times as we like. At £9 a pop for cars, I'll be quids in before the end of the week and still have 51 weeks left. As an honorary Yorkshireman I'll make sure I get my money's worth. ;D
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Thornton Dale.......... mystery holes in wall country. ;D. Hours of fun on a wet day. :y
I paid £54 for an annual pass into Dalby Forest before we left, the barriers lift and let us in and out as many times as we like. At £9 a pop for cars, I'll be quids in before the end of the week and still have 51 weeks left. As an honorary Yorkshireman I'll make sure I get my money's worth. ;D
I used to go up to Dalby forest regularly in my teenage years. In those days no barriers. An awful lot of the local access roads have been closed off to vehicles. Object in principle “ as a local” to paying even though I haven't lived there ( Wykeham forest) for nearly fifty years. :-[ Still plenty of good walking. Lots of history too. The Romans and stone age man were active in the area. There are rabbit types too from when wild rabbits were farmed. We have boxes of flint arrow heads, Roman coins that are two a penny and even a Roman ring.
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It was a good race,enjoyed that :y :y
Oh yeah, this thread was something to do with F1, wasn't it? ;D
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It was a good race,enjoyed that :y :y
Oh yeah, this thread was something to do with F1, wasn't it? ;D
Ahem ::) ::)
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Great call on Mercedes to bring him in for fresh tyres, clearly number crunchers there on their game.
Approaching the point Bottas will have to yield now and just play No2 driver, I hope they renew him though. Seb Ocon always comes across, as a bit of a idiot :-\
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It was a good call from Mercedes to roll the dice, but it only really worked out the way it did because Hamilton drove over 20 qualifying laps in a row. I don't think any of the others would have been capable of doing that tbh.
Verstappen is very good, but imo he isn't the complete package that Hamilton is, but he might be in the future.
Talk by Horner and Rosberg at the weekend of Verstappen now being the best driver in F1 was ludicrous imo.
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I feel sorry for Bottas, he can string together a fast qualifying session but lacks ultimate racecraft.
Alonso had his critics but on opening laps , even in a mediocre car , he made up places where feel for car on full tanks, cool tyres and brakes is essential. There are only a handfull of the top twenty that display that ability
I am not sure that Ocon has that anymore than Bottas but the teams have to think the long game i.e. after Lewis, Sebastion have gone into retirement. Orlando Norris is shaping up well.
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I see that Gasly has been sacked from Red Bull and been replaced by Albon, who looks to be a promising prospect.
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Demoted? Just swapped him to the B team. I am glad it wasnt Kyvyat.
Now we are just waiting for Ocon to replace Bottas. As they say in auctioning he has had his time.
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Depends if Toto wants someone wants someone capable of consistently challenging Hamilton or not. Not many drivers could, and Bottas is probably is near as any most could manage, apart from Verstappen. Even if Verstappen wanted to go to Mercedes (which I think unlikely) , Toto then has to consider the inevitable headaches and problems that would come with having them both in his team.
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Depends if Toto wants someone wants someone capable of consistently challenging Hamilton or not. Not many drivers could, and Bottas is probably is near as any most could manage, apart from Verstappen. Even if Verstappen wanted to go to Mercedes (which I think unlikely) , Toto then has to consider the inevitable headaches and problems that would come with having them both in his team.
It is all about succession planning. No reason why Hamilton cant win another handful of championships before retiring. In the meantime they need to bring on a successor ( someone who can learn from hamilton) to take the reins. ( or should I say reigns). Bottas is nearly at F1 retiring age too and just is not cutting the moutarde as you would say. He can string together a fast enough quali lap but is rubbish at the racecraft. Like Gasly
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True enough, and in that case young Ocon would make more sense. :y
I suspect Hamilton would like to bear all Scummies records and then finish his career at Ferrari, as apparently all racing drivers want that as part of their legacy. Don't think he will go there yet though, as hes smart enough to know that he is unikely to win much in a Ferrari.
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Anybody watch yesterdays race at Monza ?,good race I thought :y :y
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Anybody watch yesterdays race at Monza ?,good race I thought :y :y
It was very good, Henry. I particularly liked it when Vettel spun and then charged back on to the track. ;D
Leclerc looks like a true contender for future seasons, don't think he has time to make a dent this year.
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Monza is often a good race to watch. Its a fantastic track. I was disappointed to see some of Leclercs driving was questionable to say the least. He was bordering on dirty and dangerous at times. I hope he doesn't grow into another Vettel / Schumacher type.
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Monza is often a good race to watch. Its a fantastic track. I was disappointed to see some of Leclercs driving was questionable to say the least. He was bordering on dirty and dangerous at times. I hope he doesn't grow into another Vettel / Schumacher type.
Nah. He reminded me more of Hamilton than anyone else. As Lewis said, "It's called racing".
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He pushed Hamilton off the track at high speed. Hamilton has never done that to anyone in his life.
I wouldn't be surprised if Vettel retires at the end of the year. His confidence is gone and his time is up. Happens to most of them in the end. The guard has changed at Ferrari and he has nowhere else to go.
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He pushed Hamilton off the track at high speed. Hamilton has never done that to anyone in his life.
I wouldn't be surprised if Vettel retires at the end of the year. His confidence is gone and his time is up. Happens to most of them in the end. The guard has changed at Ferrari and he has nowhere else to go.
If the positions were reversed, you'd be praising Hamilton for his great defensive driving. I thought Leclerc played a blinder.
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No I wouldn't. A big part of why I like Hamilton as much as I do, is the fact that he not only wins but he wins the right way. He is skilled enough to be millimetre perfect when racing against other cars and is always very hard but very fair. Its not just the winning that matters to him. Its winning fair and square which is important. That's why he is leagues ahead of Schumacher, Vettel etc. imo.
If he nerfed someone off the road at high speed, I would be disappointed and say so.
Hamilton said afterwards that the only thing that stopped keeping his foot in and risking an accident was that he has the championship in mind. Which might mean he has a lesson to teach young Leclerc once the title is wrapped up.
Should mean some good racing ahead hopefully.
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Vettel got worst driver of the day award. Very poor showing. Next time it will be a one race ban.....
Nice to see Leclerc do well - he withstood Hamilton and Bottas’s attacks but I agree his driving was questionable. FIA ( ferrari international assistance ) was in play again.
Singapore should better suit the Red Bulls. Max hopefully will be on the podium. Still not sure about Albon but he does show more attacking spirit than Ghasly did.