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Re: Portable ac unit
« Reply #15 on: 02 July 2015, 08:22:09 »

It's taken 6 hours to get the temp down from a displayed 32c to 22c :(

Meanwhile, Gixer's leccy meter hasn't had such a shock since he took up welding. ;D
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Re: Portable ac unit
« Reply #16 on: 02 July 2015, 11:25:40 »

It's taken 6 hours to get the temp down from a displayed 32c to 22c :(

But it is not an Air Conditioner, is it? tis just a cooler, very different device. Portable air conditioners have lump of equipment that must be put outside. Cant quite remember the technical speek, tis a long time since I worked for Andrews Heat For Hire............. ::) ::) they also did AC............. :D :D

What Chris has is an AC unit with both condenser and evaporator in one box and ducting to take the searing hot air from the condenser stage outside.  They're usually small and low capacity units.

What you're describing is just a larger version of the same thing with the evaporator inside and the condenser that goes outside with the long HP & LP refrigerant lines connecting them.  Usually higher capacity and can have noisier condenser/compressor stages. The small version of a whole building unit and a temporary version of a wall mount split unit.

An air cooler is usually little more than a fan with a cold water source for evaporative water cooling and has no hot exhaust.
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Re: Portable ac unit
« Reply #17 on: 02 July 2015, 17:02:54 »

It's taken 6 hours to get the temp down from a displayed 32c to 22c :(
How cold is the air coming out? Should be uncomfortably cold.

Mine was on when I was in the bath, cooled the room to "comfortable" in that 45mins or so
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« Reply #18 on: 02 July 2015, 18:20:11 »

It's taken 6 hours to get the temp down from a displayed 32c to 22c :(

But it is not an Air Conditioner, is it? tis just a cooler, very different device. Portable air conditioners have lump of equipment that must be put outside. Cant quite remember the technical speek, tis a long time since I worked for Andrews Heat For Hire............. ::) ::) they also did AC............. :D :D

What Chris has is an AC unit with both condenser and evaporator in one box and ducting to take the searing hot air from the condenser stage outside.  They're usually small and low capacity units.

What you're describing is just a larger version of the same thing with the evaporator inside and the condenser that goes outside with the long HP & LP refrigerant lines connecting them. Usually higher capacity and can have noisier condenser/compressor stages. The small version of a whole building unit and a temporary version of a wall mount split unit.

An air cooler is usually little more than a fan with a cold water source for evaporative water cooling and has no hot exhaust.

You can get those units that use water instead of refrigerant  :y

Word of warning tho.....do not plug it into an extension lead, that's plugged into an extension lead.....etc/etc

Years ago.....I hired one to help a computer room that one of the AC units had packed up....until it got repaired, one of these units was delivered within a few hours.....where to plug it in became a problem as it had to be near a window (for the short pipes to exit outside)....lifted a couple of floor tiles to find an extension lead socket underneath ..... great  :y Plugged it in....and off it went helping to cool the computer room....Went home...next morning I was getting complaints of servers not being online....wandered down to the computer room....phew!! it was probably about 40C in there....the servers had crashed due to excessive heat....portable cooler not working....so phoned electrician....who discovered after lifting quite a few tiles....the cables of the extension leads....had melted !! causing the breaker to trip out.....lucky not to have a fire!!!
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Re: Portable ac unit
« Reply #19 on: 02 July 2015, 18:31:20 »

It's taken 6 hours to get the temp down from a displayed 32c to 22c :(
How cold is the air coming out? Should be uncomfortably cold.

Mine was on when I was in the bath, cooled the room to "comfortable" in that 45mins or so

Yes ac outlet is cold enough I guess.  The curtain thing helped. But there's still considerable heat coming from the exhaust. I suppose you'd call it?

It comes with. 1.5 meters of very sturdy plastic corrugated pipe. To which I've added some much more flimsy vent pipe. The vent pipe probably isn't far off melting. ;D it doesn't seem restricted in any way so no issue there. It's just a case of stopping the heat coming back in the room.

I have a plan though, to fit the supppiled connector for the pipe to the wall by the adjacent airing cupboard, then duct it up there. Through the ceiling, and the wooden platform for the water tank , then out the vent tile for the bathroom extractor.

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Re: Portable ac unit
« Reply #20 on: 02 July 2015, 19:58:05 »

Well, while you've all been fretting about air con I've been testing my new wood burning stove. 8)
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Re: Portable ac unit
« Reply #21 on: 02 July 2015, 20:55:17 »

Yes ac outlet is cold enough I guess.  The curtain thing helped. But there's still considerable heat coming from the exhaust. I suppose you'd call it?
But that should be a long, long way out of the window  ???
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Re: Portable ac unit
« Reply #22 on: 02 July 2015, 21:27:08 »

Yes ac outlet is cold enough I guess.  The curtain thing helped. But there's still considerable heat coming from the exhaust. I suppose you'd call it?
But that should be a long, long way out of the window  ???
It's as long as it needs to be to get TO the window, with the unit in front of the window at the nearest point.
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Re: Portable ac unit
« Reply #23 on: 02 July 2015, 22:36:27 »

Where I have a chalet bungalow, the flat roofs act like radiators this time of year. I fitted ceiling fans in all of the bedrooms. Very quiet and the breeze is just right for a good night's sleep in a hot bedroom. :y :y :y
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Re: Portable ac unit
« Reply #24 on: 03 July 2015, 00:04:27 »

Yes ac outlet is cold enough I guess.  The curtain thing helped. But there's still considerable heat coming from the exhaust. I suppose you'd call it?
But that should be a long, long way out of the window  ???
i think he means from the exhaust not out of the exhaust.  you just need to insulate the exhaust - lag it or put a larger tube around it. that will improve the efficiency of extraction as well.
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Re: Portable ac unit
« Reply #25 on: 03 July 2015, 20:41:53 »

Yes ac outlet is cold enough I guess.  The curtain thing helped. But there's still considerable heat coming from the exhaust. I suppose you'd call it?
But that should be a long, long way out of the window  ???
It's as long as it needs to be to get TO the window, with the unit in front of the window at the nearest point.
In my case, that's about 2' almost directly upwards, with 2nd foot being behind curtain.  Guessing yours not dissimilar?  Which would suggest your unit is less effective than my clapped out 15yr old unit :o
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Re: Portable ac unit
« Reply #26 on: 04 July 2015, 11:35:00 »

It has to go to the small top window, hence more pipe heating the room.
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Re: Portable ac unit
« Reply #27 on: 04 July 2015, 16:02:23 »

Ah, I chuck mine out of the main window, purposely to avoid that.
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