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Title: Vauxhall Royle - Go Compare
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 27 August 2019, 21:31:20
Has anyone else thought about the car being wrecked, whilst summersaulting over a falling tree, in the latest Go Compare tv advert? ??? ???

To me it looks awfully like an old Vauxhall Royle of late 1980's vintage. The alloy wheels are dead ringers for those fitted to the contemporary Senator, but the car is definitely not one of those.

 ;)
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Post by: YZ250 on 27 August 2019, 22:35:02
I freeze framed it just before he hits the tree and thought it was a bmw E12 535.  :-\  Very similar criss cross alloys to the Senator. 
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Post by: Varche on 27 August 2019, 22:41:48
Whatever it is, it is a strong car. The irritating man with the tash got out unscathed.

Fancy the other guy being there at the side of the road just at that time!
Title: Re: Vauxhall Royle - Go Compare
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 27 August 2019, 23:02:27
Tis no Royale, thankfully, as theres harly any left. Definitely a Beemer, though not 'up' enough on my BMWs to know which one, early 5 series at a guess.

Though the colour is bang on a very typical shade that many Royales and Sennys used.
Title: Re: Vauxhall Royle - Go Compare
Post by: Olympia5776 on 28 August 2019, 08:01:17
It's an early bmw e12 5 series.
Lot of talk on bmw sites about the merits in wrecking such a car for advertising gain where any car would have sufficed.
That model , although not too rare and valuable , is sought after by many inc. me and are lovely old things to drive.
It is currently unknown what condition the car was in prior to being destroyed.
Very odd.
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Post by: Keith ABS on 28 August 2019, 08:01:39
 Yea I thought it was an old 5series.
Possibly the same shape as one my dad had, 1982 vintage 528
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Post by: biggriffin on 28 August 2019, 08:06:26
People need to get out more. :)
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Post by: BazaJT on 28 August 2019, 08:28:36
Speaking of the Royale there was a saloon at the local bike/classic car event last Monday in a reddish brown colour and 5 spoke Ronal alloys.In very good nick it was too :y
Title: Re: Vauxhall Royle - Go Compare
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 August 2019, 09:40:20
Tis no Royale, thankfully, as theres harly any left. Definitely a Beemer, though not 'up' enough on my BMWs to know which one, early 5 series at a guess.

Though the colour is bang on a very typical shade that many Royales and Sennys used.

That threw me as well then.  My Senny was in that colour 8) 8)

A BMW eh YZ250?  I also do not know my BMW's, but come to think about it the car does have a coupe type, bit square at the back end, shape that one BMW had in the 1980's. :D ;)
Title: Re: Vauxhall Royle - Go Compare
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 August 2019, 09:42:45
It's an early bmw e12 5 series.
Lot of talk on bmw sites about the merits in wrecking such a car for advertising gain where any car would have sufficed.
That model , although not too rare and valuable , is sought after by many inc. me and are lovely old things to drive.
It is currently unknown what condition the car was in prior to being destroyed.
Very odd.

Right!  Now we know! 8) 8) :y

Hopefully it was a write off could could never be repaired by even the richest BMW enthusiast...............I bloody hope so if it is such a good car! :o :o :'( :'(
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Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 August 2019, 10:44:33
Cut Lizzie some slack. She is a woman, so one car will look exactly like any other. ;) :-* :-*
Title: Re: Vauxhall Royle - Go Compare
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 August 2019, 11:15:46
Cut Lizzie some slack. She is a woman, so one car will look exactly like any other. ;) :-* :-*


 ;D ;D ;D :-* :-*

Now when I was a child all cars were very different in design, although the colour was usually black or grey, with some reds creeping in.

Then came the awful 1970's and designs started to all fall in line, which got much worse in the 1980's! :o :o :o

Now I have to look twice to recognise a car is a Jaguar, Bentley or Aston Martin!  With the "people carriers" it is even worse, with Vauxhall's looking like Honda's, looking like Seat's, looking like Ford's......etc, etc, with basically the same overall shape, lights, wheels and so on!

Gone are the days of a Humber Snipe, looking so different than a Rover P4, looking so different from a Vauxhall Cresta PA, or a Vauxhall Victor, which in turn was nothing like a Standard 8, or Austin A30, or Austin Seven, and so on..... ::) ::) :D :D :D

At a distance it is not just women who cannot tell the difference between the cars; I have heard male police officers debating what car that they had just seen, and purely found out by the reg. no! ;D ;D ;D ;)

It is the same with the railways;  Every steam engine type was recognisable; a A4 was very different to a Duchess, which was different to a Black Five, or a Merchant Navy, or a 9F.  Then it just became 'boxes on wheels', all looking the same from a distance.........just as with the motor car!! ::) ::) ;)
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Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 August 2019, 11:21:57
Cut Lizzie some slack. She is a woman, so one car will look exactly like any other. ;) :-* :-*


 ;D ;D ;D :-* :-*

Now when I was a child all cars were very different in design, although the colour was usually black or grey, with some reds creeping in.

Then came the awful 1970's and designs started to all fall in line, which got much worse in the 1980's! :o :o :o
Now I have to look twice to recognise a car is a Jaguar, Bentley or Aston Martin!  With the "people carriers" it is even worse, with Vauxhall's looking like Honda's, look
ing like Seat's, looking like Ford's......etc, etc, with basically the same overall shape, lights, wheels and so on!

Gone are the days of a Humber Snipe, looking so different than a Rover P4, looking so different from a Vauxhall Cresta PA, or a Vauxhall Victor, which in turn was nothing like a Standard 8, or Austin A30, or Austin Seven, and so on..... ::) ::) :D :D :D

At a distance it is not just women who cannot tell the difference between the cars; I have heard male police officers debating what car that they had just seen, and purely found out by the reg. no! ;D ;D ;D ;)


Cars are certainly very 'samey'  these days .......especially small cars.

Without a badge of identification to help me I wouldn't know a small Renault from a small Pug, Citroen, Mazda, Ford or Vauxhall. :-X
Title: Re: Vauxhall Royle - Go Compare
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 August 2019, 11:25:33
Cars are generic these days, but Lizzie, I have faith that you could tell the difference between a bubble car and a Rolls Royce Phantom even when painted the same colour........you are a very clever girl. ::) ::) ::) ::) :D :D :D :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Vauxhall Royle - Go Compare
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 August 2019, 11:47:42
Cars are generic these days, but Lizzie, I have faith that you could CAN tell the difference between a bubble car and a Rolls Royce Phantom even when painted the same colour........you are a very clever girl. ::) ::) ::) ::) :D :D :D :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Cheek! :o :o :o

There is nothing wrong with my eyesight, and I CAN!! :: ) ::) :P :P :P :-* :-* :-* ;D ;D ;)!
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Post by: STEMO on 28 August 2019, 11:49:55
Whatever it is, it is a strong car. The irritating man with the tash got out unscathed.

Fancy the other guy being there at the side of the road just at that time!
The other guy is the same guy.
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Post by: Nick W on 28 August 2019, 12:23:21


Cars are certainly very 'samey'  these days .......especially small cars.

Without a badge of identification to help me I wouldn't know a small Renault from a small Pug, Citroen, Mazda, Ford or Vauxhall. :-X


Cars have ALWAYS been 'samey', as they all have to conform to the same packaging requirements and the style of the day. So every now and then, there's a sudden change, before all the other manufacturers follow.


Just look at thirties cars; the only way to tell the difference is to look at the grille.


Then you have Ford Consuls and the A90 Westminsters of the fifties; the same silhouette, just slightly different chrome trims.


Mk2 Cortina and Hillman Hunter?


mk1 Escort, Avenger and Marina? They could be brothers, let alone cousins


Polo and Fiesta? Golf and Horizon? Alpine and Cavalier hatchback? Astra and mk3 Escort?


Primera and Mondeo?


etc, etc




Modern platform sharing makes this even more apparent. VAG cars are obviously the same, as a quick look at areas like the windscreen pillars, scuttles and sills show, but it doesn't take much to spot the relationship between the Ka and 500, or Renaults and European Nissans
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Post by: STEMO on 28 August 2019, 12:28:11
Have a look at the rear of a golf estate and an astra estate, they are virtually identical.
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Post by: Nick W on 28 August 2019, 12:40:21
Have a look at the rear of a golf estate and an astra estate, they are virtually identical.


Kinda tricky to make two similarly sized boxes with a door look different.
Title: Re: Vauxhall Royle - Go Compare
Post by: STEMO on 28 August 2019, 12:48:12
Have a look at the rear of a golf estate and an astra estate, they are virtually identical.


Kinda tricky to make two similarly sized boxes with a door look different.
Ermmm.........yes  ;D
Title: Re: Vauxhall Royle - Go Compare
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 28 August 2019, 12:49:46
Fortunately most of the Vauxhall estates all look the same as the Peugeot ones, which must make the bean counters very happy ;D
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Post by: STEMO on 28 August 2019, 13:32:17
Fortunately most of the Vauxhall estates all look the same as the Peugeot ones, which must make the bean counters very happy ;D
Are you sure? This looks better than any Vauxhall I know

(https://i.ibb.co/WGg7765/1-BDC0-C68-A414-4-A3-A-AFC1-F5706-C062300.png)[/url]
Title: Re: Vauxhall Royle - Go Compare
Post by: STEMO on 28 August 2019, 13:34:48
Pic is there, but not showing  :-\

(https://i.ibb.co/WGg7765/1-BDC0-C68-A414-4-A3-A-AFC1-F5706-C062300.png) (https://ibb.co/pbJNNxw)
Ah..''tis now.
Title: Re: Vauxhall Royle - Go Compare
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 August 2019, 13:50:58


Cars are certainly very 'samey'  these days .......especially small cars.

Without a badge of identification to help me I wouldn't know a small Renault from a small Pug, Citroen, Mazda, Ford or Vauxhall. :-X


Cars have ALWAYS been 'samey', as they all have to conform to the same packaging requirements and the style of the day. So every now and then, there's a sudden change, before all the other manufacturers follow.


Just look at thirties cars; the only way to tell the difference is to look at the grille.


Then you have Ford Consuls and the A90 Westminsters of the fifties; the same silhouette, just slightly different chrome trims.


Mk2 Cortina and Hillman Hunter?


mk1 Escort, Avenger and Marina? They could be brothers, let alone cousins


What!! :o :o :o :o

You obviously never looked at many of those cars.  The styling, the wings, the headlights, the shape of the windows, the door handles, the engine cowlings, wing mirrors, bumpers, were all very different on every one of those you mention

Even those with the same chassis, like the Morris Oxford vs. the Austin Cambridge were identifiable by their differences at even 300 yards, as was the likes of the Austin Westminster vs. the Wolsley 6/99.

Ford Escort Mk1 looked the same as the Marina or Avenger? ................oh, come on!!  You must be blind or not old enough to know the difference at a distance that even me, a girlie, could identify! ::) ::) ::)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D :) 
Title: Re: Vauxhall Royle - Go Compare
Post by: Nick W on 28 August 2019, 14:18:21
I've been interested in, and looking at, cars for over 45 years.


Go and look at an Escort, Avenger and Marina again. Properly. Pictures will probably have to do. The curve through the door, over the wheel arch and into the quarter panel? The roofline or shapes of the doors, both things that are going to be the same due to the size of the car. Look at the front, and how the wings dip towards to the bonnet, which then rises to a gentle curve over the engine, with a low wide eggcrate grille. Avengers and Escorts(and Allegros among others) even use the same headlights! The shape of the back window with a steeply raked boot and quarter panels, although the Avenger tail is better resolved with 'L' shaped rear lights that flow into a back panel that isn't recessed. Narrow wheels inside much bigger wheelarches(12" wheels on some Avengers and Escorts too)


The other examples I mentioned can be compared in the same way, because they all follow the styling conventions of their day, wrapped around the mechanical bits.


And I never said that Avengers, Escorts and Marinas(HC Vivas too) weren't individually identifiable - I'll happily point out different Avenger models based on the different side trims if you want -just that they look very similar.


designers tried to distinguish their cars from others and their own lower spec cars with chrome trims, vinyl roofs, flashy wheel trims, two tone paint, different bumpers or four lights instead of two. Now they do it with weird bodylines, bulkier bumpers and bigger wheels, all the same tricks.
Title: Re: Vauxhall Royle - Go Compare
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 August 2019, 14:24:23
I've been interested in, and looking at, cars for over 45 years.


Go and look at an Escort, Avenger and Marina again. Properly. Pictures will probably have to do.

Do not need to as I know them all very well as I was driving an Escort Mk1 47 years ago, after "watching cars" since 60 years ago, and travelled extensively across this fair land seeing everything on the road and studying all the features mentioned.  I know exactly what existed before you even started "looking" at cars - sorry Nick, but that is the truth! ::) ::) :D :D :-* :-* ;)
Title: Re: Vauxhall Royle - Go Compare
Post by: Nick W on 28 August 2019, 14:49:33
Ever tried fitting bodyparts off one to another? Takes a lot more than just looking.....
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Post by: Doctor Gollum on 28 August 2019, 14:55:21
This isn't a pissing contest.

Apart from a few BL horrors, cars are generally designed by a handful of individuals with a nod to both the past and future whilst respecting current trends ::)

Which is why the lights of the current Galaxy still share a design line with the original Galaxy...
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Post by: STEMO on 28 August 2019, 14:57:50
This isn't a pissing contest.

Apart from a few BL horrors, cars are generally designed by a handful of individuals with a nod to both the past and future whilst respecting current trends ::)

Which is why the lights of the current Galaxy still share a design line with the original Galaxy...
I reckon Nick would beat Lizzie in a pissing contest every time.  ;D
Title: Re: Vauxhall Royle - Go Compare
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 August 2019, 20:16:59
Ever tried fitting bodyparts off one to another? Takes a lot more than just looking.....

No, don't need to as I have had men to do that for me as I watch them!;D ;D ;D ;)
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Post by: Andy B on 29 August 2019, 00:20:14
.....

Now when I was a child all cars were very different  .....

Didn't transport just have 4 legs when you was a child? 🙄😉😙😙
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Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 29 August 2019, 11:08:55
.....

Now when I was a child all cars were very different  .....

Didn't transport just have 4 legs when you was a child? 🙄😉😙😙

You joke, but there was still a lot of horse drawn carts still around :D :D :D ;)

Usually our transport consisted of two legs, our own ::) ::) We walked everywhere around town. ;) 

After that it was the bus and train to get to London! 8) 8) :y

We are ALL so lazy now!! :o :o :o
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Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 29 August 2019, 14:30:22
Tis no Royale, thankfully, as theres harly any left. Definitely a Beemer, though not 'up' enough on my BMWs to know which one, early 5 series at a guess.

Though the colour is bang on a very typical shade that many Royales and Sennys used.

That threw me as well then.  My Senny was in that colour 8) 8)

A BMW eh YZ250?  I also do not know my BMW's, but come to think about it the car does have a coupe type, bit square at the back end, shape that one BMW had in the 1980's. :D ;)

Correction:  Seen the advert again and my Senny was never that colour! ::) ::) :-[ :-[ :-[  It is a nice shade of metallic bronze on that BMW. 8) 8) ;)
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Post by: Andy B on 29 August 2019, 18:54:38
....

Usually our transport consisted of two legs, our own ::) ::) We walked everywhere around town. ;) 
....

Likewise  :y
Title: Re: Vauxhall Royle - Go Compare
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 August 2019, 19:00:50
Does anyone other than me think the Signum is a fine piece of design and style........or could I be deluded? :)
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Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 August 2019, 19:02:45


Cars are certainly very 'samey'  these days .......especially small cars.

Without a badge of identification to help me I wouldn't know a small Renault from a small Pug, Citroen, Mazda, Ford or Vauxhall. :-X


Cars have ALWAYS been 'samey', as they all have to conform to the same packaging requirements and the style of the day. So every now and then, there's a sudden change, before all the other manufacturers follow.


Just look at thirties cars; the only way to tell the difference is to look at the grille.


Then you have Ford Consuls and the A90 Westminsters of the fifties; the same silhouette, just slightly different chrome trims.


Mk2 Cortina and Hillman Hunter?


mk1 Escort, Avenger and Marina? They could be brothers, let alone cousins


Polo and Fiesta? Golf and Horizon? Alpine and Cavalier hatchback? Astra and mk3 Escort?


Primera and Mondeo?


etc, etc




Modern platform sharing makes this even more apparent. VAG cars are obviously the same, as a quick look at areas like the windscreen pillars, scuttles and sills show, but it doesn't take much to spot the relationship between the Ka and 500, or Renaults and European Nissans

What does the Bond bug and Clan Crusader resemble? ;)
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Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 August 2019, 19:05:07
Does anyone other than me think the Signum is a fine piece of design and style........or could I be deluded? :)
Irrefutablly the latter :D
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Post by: Nick W on 29 August 2019, 22:49:50
Does anyone other than me think the Signum is a fine piece of design and style........or could I be deluded? :)


Design? Maybe. If you wear your last prescription spectacles. And squint a bit.


Style? Hahahahahahaha. Sorry, I promised I'd stop that. No.


Deluded? There are worse problems.
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Post by: biggriffin on 06 September 2019, 20:49:21
Just seen advert. It's a 520 beemer.
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Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 September 2019, 21:20:05
Just seen advert. It was a 520 beemer.
Fixed.

Presumably beyond economic repair, tarted up for telly box  and crushed soon afterwards  :-\