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Title: Numpty two routers question
Post by: Varche on 19 October 2019, 19:49:15
I have a Linksys E1200 version1 router on my satellite modem.

Checked the software and it is running version 2 software since over a year ago. I have no recollection of installing it. Tried today to install vers 1.0 firmware with no success. Did factory reset and was surprised to see it still had ver 2 firmware. Reason for trying to change it is I am having internet problems and supplier says their service is working fine.

Anyway enough of background. If I buy another identical but later router could I easily use the older router on the end of a long ethernet cable from a port on the new router elsewhere in the house.? Operative word is easily
Title: Re: Numpty two routers question
Post by: TheBoy on 20 October 2019, 09:53:40
Most of this shite either self updates, or gets pushed an update from your ISP if its ISP provided.

If the same router is used by *any* ISP globally, you tend to find that they can't be downgraded to an earlier version of software, as firmware locks are put in place.


To your question, presumably you only have one connection out to the Internet - the sat one - so why would you need a 2nd router?  (Obviously, that's making a huge assumption that you don't have complex routing going on, and if you do, a lot of these cheapy shite routers can't detect routing circles).
Title: Re: Numpty two routers question
Post by: TheBoy on 20 October 2019, 09:55:34
Or is it you want to use purely as a WiFi Access Point?  The success of that depends wholeheartedly on the router in question - some can, some have things implemented in such a way that it either wouldn't work, or you'd end up double NAT'ing everything (bad idea)
Title: Re: Numpty two routers question
Post by: Varche on 20 October 2019, 13:11:51
No, just want a second wifi point as that part of house plus outside  is a dead point.

Funnily enough installing the latest software has significantly improved the speed. Might not need to buy another router
Title: Re: Numpty two routers question
Post by: TheBoy on 20 October 2019, 16:35:22
No, just want a second wifi point as that part of house plus outside  is a dead point.
Get a proper access point then :).
Title: Re: Numpty two routers question
Post by: Varche on 20 October 2019, 16:43:27
Never heard of them!

Just had a look on amazon. One of those will do the job perfectly. Thanks :y
Title: Re: Numpty two routers question
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 20 October 2019, 16:49:53
No, just want a second wifi point as that part of house plus outside  is a dead point.

Funnily enough installing the latest software has significantly improved the speed. Might not need to buy another router

How about a WIFI repeater?

Something like this (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2019-300Mbps-WiFi-Repeater-Wireless-Router-Range-Extender-Signal-Booster-WPS-YMY/401837804535?epid=8031137190&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item5d8f664bf7:g:QYYAAOSwrXddR9GZ&enc=AQAEAAACMBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qXeuU47LhfFdq5GsUQ1z9SkvbqhqWZb%2F9dzX%2BMZSox%2BxsP%2ByKL2LihvLma%2BrUUgDtOuEpI8%2BQd8XjGn2Z5jBjS1Lmb3oI4Pw5s7d0oYC19lqSlENkkLV2qdWN8vzgMzl2SEVDhF4zOBRcbY2AnKp1ZDh1hUahpCMTi6VujkLMMeqi%2Ft3NFw%2FDGIp2UOQra9kTOLSw0U50MI0KGpe%2F3C1T9ptWXETeBJjdkr%2Ft6%2FdrbccV0qIAt1VxFQb4fx%2B1vC22V31QjRLn27Vob3p8fiuVjcHTu2NOHc5HmNjNZM73kqylkQ6n0WD0lJO25Sg80hu4rWmaLiXgKdmzdKoTiturex5VekO8IUQujh5dRCp9rRjH8HakB0mJWtURpyKipvaUNpYhPMQHnq%2Bl48udw6vUqIDG4UHFKX1AAezuf5jJ%2F26C7eelpPjtgheUp40EsGFpJFI8Xz9b%2Frkg2l9aU37%2FHXP58jWhy5XgnCvXaqBFWKMeJcat55ruuIgjCCbr1rCy%2FEBOX50pt4umZFYr2gfjRAYbpX3%2Fy%2FQd3BTjGU4ocPlZnmb3Tg8SmKwQnhBkoN%2BL1iPDhr3Mg0H5q7aN3FK6fGiiJ08suJhZc7AJHgv03zdKZDjw7Pv4Gc2XQGeW3h%2Bn20I8wFCmmSZUL702u490j4c0N5nCJsyIQsZYOh0u3PYBD1SOFIW1Y%2BobaAoKnd19PETej2hF2KcVxFxAbxsJpz&checksum=4018378045356eb2193cd9c547f5a11a1f6b3f5d4256)?
Title: Re: Numpty two routers question
Post by: Varche on 20 October 2019, 17:53:48
Despite The Boy advising against these as they slow throughput ( if I remember correctly) I have one which works for email and forum chat.

I need something a bit better to include a smart TV.

I will get an access point and stick that on the end of the ethernet cable from a router point.
Title: Re: Numpty two routers question
Post by: TheBoy on 21 October 2019, 17:00:22
No, just want a second wifi point as that part of house plus outside  is a dead point.

Funnily enough installing the latest software has significantly improved the speed. Might not need to buy another router

How about a WIFI repeater?

Something like this (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2019-300Mbps-WiFi-Repeater-Wireless-Router-Range-Extender-Signal-Booster-WPS-YMY/401837804535?epid=8031137190&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item5d8f664bf7:g:QYYAAOSwrXddR9GZ&enc=AQAEAAACMBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qXeuU47LhfFdq5GsUQ1z9SkvbqhqWZb%2F9dzX%2BMZSox%2BxsP%2ByKL2LihvLma%2BrUUgDtOuEpI8%2BQd8XjGn2Z5jBjS1Lmb3oI4Pw5s7d0oYC19lqSlENkkLV2qdWN8vzgMzl2SEVDhF4zOBRcbY2AnKp1ZDh1hUahpCMTi6VujkLMMeqi%2Ft3NFw%2FDGIp2UOQra9kTOLSw0U50MI0KGpe%2F3C1T9ptWXETeBJjdkr%2Ft6%2FdrbccV0qIAt1VxFQb4fx%2B1vC22V31QjRLn27Vob3p8fiuVjcHTu2NOHc5HmNjNZM73kqylkQ6n0WD0lJO25Sg80hu4rWmaLiXgKdmzdKoTiturex5VekO8IUQujh5dRCp9rRjH8HakB0mJWtURpyKipvaUNpYhPMQHnq%2Bl48udw6vUqIDG4UHFKX1AAezuf5jJ%2F26C7eelpPjtgheUp40EsGFpJFI8Xz9b%2Frkg2l9aU37%2FHXP58jWhy5XgnCvXaqBFWKMeJcat55ruuIgjCCbr1rCy%2FEBOX50pt4umZFYr2gfjRAYbpX3%2Fy%2FQd3BTjGU4ocPlZnmb3Tg8SmKwQnhBkoN%2BL1iPDhr3Mg0H5q7aN3FK6fGiiJ08suJhZc7AJHgv03zdKZDjw7Pv4Gc2XQGeW3h%2Bn20I8wFCmmSZUL702u490j4c0N5nCJsyIQsZYOh0u3PYBD1SOFIW1Y%2BobaAoKnd19PETej2hF2KcVxFxAbxsJpz&checksum=4018378045356eb2193cd9c547f5a11a1f6b3f5d4256)?
Wifi repeaters are always rubbish. End of.
Title: Re: Numpty two routers question
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 21 October 2019, 18:33:11
No, just want a second wifi point as that part of house plus outside  is a dead point.

Funnily enough installing the latest software has significantly improved the speed. Might not need to buy another router

How about a WIFI repeater?

Something like this (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2019-300Mbps-WiFi-Repeater-Wireless-Router-Range-Extender-Signal-Booster-WPS-YMY/401837804535?epid=8031137190&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item5d8f664bf7:g:QYYAAOSwrXddR9GZ&enc=AQAEAAACMBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qXeuU47LhfFdq5GsUQ1z9SkvbqhqWZb%2F9dzX%2BMZSox%2BxsP%2ByKL2LihvLma%2BrUUgDtOuEpI8%2BQd8XjGn2Z5jBjS1Lmb3oI4Pw5s7d0oYC19lqSlENkkLV2qdWN8vzgMzl2SEVDhF4zOBRcbY2AnKp1ZDh1hUahpCMTi6VujkLMMeqi%2Ft3NFw%2FDGIp2UOQra9kTOLSw0U50MI0KGpe%2F3C1T9ptWXETeBJjdkr%2Ft6%2FdrbccV0qIAt1VxFQb4fx%2B1vC22V31QjRLn27Vob3p8fiuVjcHTu2NOHc5HmNjNZM73kqylkQ6n0WD0lJO25Sg80hu4rWmaLiXgKdmzdKoTiturex5VekO8IUQujh5dRCp9rRjH8HakB0mJWtURpyKipvaUNpYhPMQHnq%2Bl48udw6vUqIDG4UHFKX1AAezuf5jJ%2F26C7eelpPjtgheUp40EsGFpJFI8Xz9b%2Frkg2l9aU37%2FHXP58jWhy5XgnCvXaqBFWKMeJcat55ruuIgjCCbr1rCy%2FEBOX50pt4umZFYr2gfjRAYbpX3%2Fy%2FQd3BTjGU4ocPlZnmb3Tg8SmKwQnhBkoN%2BL1iPDhr3Mg0H5q7aN3FK6fGiiJ08suJhZc7AJHgv03zdKZDjw7Pv4Gc2XQGeW3h%2Bn20I8wFCmmSZUL702u490j4c0N5nCJsyIQsZYOh0u3PYBD1SOFIW1Y%2BobaAoKnd19PETej2hF2KcVxFxAbxsJpz&checksum=4018378045356eb2193cd9c547f5a11a1f6b3f5d4256)?
Wifi repeaters are always rubbish. End of.

OK.  :)                                                                           ;D
Title: Re: Numpty two routers question
Post by: STEMO on 21 October 2019, 19:29:36
No, just want a second wifi point as that part of house plus outside  is a dead point.

Funnily enough installing the latest software has significantly improved the speed. Might not need to buy another router

How about a WIFI repeater?

Something like this (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2019-300Mbps-WiFi-Repeater-Wireless-Router-Range-Extender-Signal-Booster-WPS-YMY/401837804535?epid=8031137190&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item5d8f664bf7:g:QYYAAOSwrXddR9GZ&enc=AQAEAAACMBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qXeuU47LhfFdq5GsUQ1z9SkvbqhqWZb%2F9dzX%2BMZSox%2BxsP%2ByKL2LihvLma%2BrUUgDtOuEpI8%2BQd8XjGn2Z5jBjS1Lmb3oI4Pw5s7d0oYC19lqSlENkkLV2qdWN8vzgMzl2SEVDhF4zOBRcbY2AnKp1ZDh1hUahpCMTi6VujkLMMeqi%2Ft3NFw%2FDGIp2UOQra9kTOLSw0U50MI0KGpe%2F3C1T9ptWXETeBJjdkr%2Ft6%2FdrbccV0qIAt1VxFQb4fx%2B1vC22V31QjRLn27Vob3p8fiuVjcHTu2NOHc5HmNjNZM73kqylkQ6n0WD0lJO25Sg80hu4rWmaLiXgKdmzdKoTiturex5VekO8IUQujh5dRCp9rRjH8HakB0mJWtURpyKipvaUNpYhPMQHnq%2Bl48udw6vUqIDG4UHFKX1AAezuf5jJ%2F26C7eelpPjtgheUp40EsGFpJFI8Xz9b%2Frkg2l9aU37%2FHXP58jWhy5XgnCvXaqBFWKMeJcat55ruuIgjCCbr1rCy%2FEBOX50pt4umZFYr2gfjRAYbpX3%2Fy%2FQd3BTjGU4ocPlZnmb3Tg8SmKwQnhBkoN%2BL1iPDhr3Mg0H5q7aN3FK6fGiiJ08suJhZc7AJHgv03zdKZDjw7Pv4Gc2XQGeW3h%2Bn20I8wFCmmSZUL702u490j4c0N5nCJsyIQsZYOh0u3PYBD1SOFIW1Y%2BobaAoKnd19PETej2hF2KcVxFxAbxsJpz&checksum=4018378045356eb2193cd9c547f5a11a1f6b3f5d4256)?
Wifi repeaters are always rubbish. End of.

OK.  :)                                                                           ;D
He means except mine, which works perfectly  ;D
Title: Re: Numpty two routers question
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 21 October 2019, 19:57:39
No, just want a second wifi point as that part of house plus outside  is a dead point.

Funnily enough installing the latest software has significantly improved the speed. Might not need to buy another router

How about a WIFI repeater?

Something like this (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2019-300Mbps-WiFi-Repeater-Wireless-Router-Range-Extender-Signal-Booster-WPS-YMY/401837804535?epid=8031137190&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item5d8f664bf7:g:QYYAAOSwrXddR9GZ&enc=AQAEAAACMBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qXeuU47LhfFdq5GsUQ1z9SkvbqhqWZb%2F9dzX%2BMZSox%2BxsP%2ByKL2LihvLma%2BrUUgDtOuEpI8%2BQd8XjGn2Z5jBjS1Lmb3oI4Pw5s7d0oYC19lqSlENkkLV2qdWN8vzgMzl2SEVDhF4zOBRcbY2AnKp1ZDh1hUahpCMTi6VujkLMMeqi%2Ft3NFw%2FDGIp2UOQra9kTOLSw0U50MI0KGpe%2F3C1T9ptWXETeBJjdkr%2Ft6%2FdrbccV0qIAt1VxFQb4fx%2B1vC22V31QjRLn27Vob3p8fiuVjcHTu2NOHc5HmNjNZM73kqylkQ6n0WD0lJO25Sg80hu4rWmaLiXgKdmzdKoTiturex5VekO8IUQujh5dRCp9rRjH8HakB0mJWtURpyKipvaUNpYhPMQHnq%2Bl48udw6vUqIDG4UHFKX1AAezuf5jJ%2F26C7eelpPjtgheUp40EsGFpJFI8Xz9b%2Frkg2l9aU37%2FHXP58jWhy5XgnCvXaqBFWKMeJcat55ruuIgjCCbr1rCy%2FEBOX50pt4umZFYr2gfjRAYbpX3%2Fy%2FQd3BTjGU4ocPlZnmb3Tg8SmKwQnhBkoN%2BL1iPDhr3Mg0H5q7aN3FK6fGiiJ08suJhZc7AJHgv03zdKZDjw7Pv4Gc2XQGeW3h%2Bn20I8wFCmmSZUL702u490j4c0N5nCJsyIQsZYOh0u3PYBD1SOFIW1Y%2BobaAoKnd19PETej2hF2KcVxFxAbxsJpz&checksum=4018378045356eb2193cd9c547f5a11a1f6b3f5d4256)?
Wifi repeaters are always rubbish. End of.

OK.  :)                                                                           ;D
He means except mine, which works perfectly  ;D
I bet you got it from ebay too... ::)
Title: Re: Numpty two routers question
Post by: STEMO on 21 October 2019, 20:10:58
No, just want a second wifi point as that part of house plus outside  is a dead point.

Funnily enough installing the latest software has significantly improved the speed. Might not need to buy another router

How about a WIFI repeater?

Something like this (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2019-300Mbps-WiFi-Repeater-Wireless-Router-Range-Extender-Signal-Booster-WPS-YMY/401837804535?epid=8031137190&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item5d8f664bf7:g:QYYAAOSwrXddR9GZ&enc=AQAEAAACMBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qXeuU47LhfFdq5GsUQ1z9SkvbqhqWZb%2F9dzX%2BMZSox%2BxsP%2ByKL2LihvLma%2BrUUgDtOuEpI8%2BQd8XjGn2Z5jBjS1Lmb3oI4Pw5s7d0oYC19lqSlENkkLV2qdWN8vzgMzl2SEVDhF4zOBRcbY2AnKp1ZDh1hUahpCMTi6VujkLMMeqi%2Ft3NFw%2FDGIp2UOQra9kTOLSw0U50MI0KGpe%2F3C1T9ptWXETeBJjdkr%2Ft6%2FdrbccV0qIAt1VxFQb4fx%2B1vC22V31QjRLn27Vob3p8fiuVjcHTu2NOHc5HmNjNZM73kqylkQ6n0WD0lJO25Sg80hu4rWmaLiXgKdmzdKoTiturex5VekO8IUQujh5dRCp9rRjH8HakB0mJWtURpyKipvaUNpYhPMQHnq%2Bl48udw6vUqIDG4UHFKX1AAezuf5jJ%2F26C7eelpPjtgheUp40EsGFpJFI8Xz9b%2Frkg2l9aU37%2FHXP58jWhy5XgnCvXaqBFWKMeJcat55ruuIgjCCbr1rCy%2FEBOX50pt4umZFYr2gfjRAYbpX3%2Fy%2FQd3BTjGU4ocPlZnmb3Tg8SmKwQnhBkoN%2BL1iPDhr3Mg0H5q7aN3FK6fGiiJ08suJhZc7AJHgv03zdKZDjw7Pv4Gc2XQGeW3h%2Bn20I8wFCmmSZUL702u490j4c0N5nCJsyIQsZYOh0u3PYBD1SOFIW1Y%2BobaAoKnd19PETej2hF2KcVxFxAbxsJpz&checksum=4018378045356eb2193cd9c547f5a11a1f6b3f5d4256)?
Wifi repeaters are always rubbish. End of.

OK.  :)                                                                           ;D
He means except mine, which works perfectly  ;D
I bet you got it from ebay too... ::)
Oooooo....cruel.  ;D