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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: Elsheepo on 17 July 2006, 12:53:59

Title: Fitting MID into police spec 2001 MV6 (facelift)
Post by: Elsheepo on 17 July 2006, 12:53:59
Hi guys,

First post here so be gentle!

I have a 2001 ex-police MV6 which contary to much opinion, is a great car and mechanically expetionally good.  Being ex-plod, the information display is the most basic or basic and looks horrid in a car with so many toys!  Since having the car, I've fitted an as-new elite leather interior, replaced all of the dash panels with original MV6 silver panels, added all of the extra buttons (including reconnecting the traction control) and now want to move my attentions to the information display.  So, how easy is this to do?  Will swapping out the existing display for a MID simply work or does it need Tech2 trickery... of course, next question after this is going to be how easy is it to add additional functionability to cater for the new MID (crusie, washer/oil level warnings, bulb check, fuel computer etc etc), but we'll save that for another day  ;)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Fitting MID into police spec 2001 MV6 (facelif
Post by: TheBoy on 17 July 2006, 12:58:41
Welcome :D

Adding the Fuel Computer and Check Control stuff would be a nightmare. I don't think MID needs to be programmed to radio like the GID and CID do.
Title: Re: Fitting MID into police spec 2001 MV6 (facelif
Post by: Elsheepo on 17 July 2006, 13:04:37
No Tech2 - we like the sound of that!!

I don't mind too much the idea of a nightmare as am reasonably good with getting things done, managed to swap out the exhaust manifold gasket and auxillary drive belt tensioners yesterday afternoon, local Vx wanted best part of a grand and 2 days to do it - daylight robbery.  My main concerns are knowing exactly what I need to fit and where.  Certainly there are a few 'loose' plugs under the bonnet which seem like they want to be plugging into a missing ECU or suchlike, also, near the washer bottle etc etc.  Guess I am not so bothered about having all functionability, I do regular light checks etc myself so don't mind if things like that don't work.  fuel computer would be good though..... my main reasons for wanting the MID is cosmetic, the dash looks 'lacking' with the basic half display.

Title: Re: Fitting MID into police spec 2001 MV6 (facelif
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 17 July 2006, 13:49:40
To be honest I am surprised its not already a MID as mine is.......

The key thing to look at is the number of wires to the grey rear connector, if its MID enabled then pretty much all the pins are connected.
Title: Re: Fitting MID into police spec 2001 MV6 (facelif
Post by: Elsheepo on 17 July 2006, 17:55:12
I'm just assuming that I am not being a numb nuts here, the display I have only has matrix display on the top half, the bottom half is standard warning lights, for example when firing her up, the headlamp levelling light illuminates for a few seconds.  

The MID is the full display as I used to have in my pre-facelift elite.

Correct?
Title: Re: Fitting MID into police spec 2001 MV6 (facelif
Post by: TheBoy on 17 July 2006, 18:00:00
Correct.

Yours sounds like TID (triple info display), just shows radio, time, and temp.
Title: Re: Fitting MID into police spec 2001 MV6 (facelif
Post by: Elsheepo on 17 July 2006, 18:25:04
Thats right, all in the top section - so, do you think a MID install would be trouble free?
Title: Re: Fitting MID into police spec 2001 MV6 (facelif
Post by: TheBoy on 17 July 2006, 18:49:01
Not something I've ever seen done, wouldn't like to comment. I would have thought it would be OK...
Title: Re: Fitting MID into police spec 2001 MV6 (facelif
Post by: Elsheepo on 17 July 2006, 18:55:57
Well, I think it's worth giving a go, will scour the land of fleabay and track a clean one down and go from there!
Title: Re: Fitting MID into police spec 2001 MV6 (facelif
Post by: tunnie on 17 July 2006, 23:05:23
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Well, I think it's worth giving a go, will scour the land of fleabay and track a clean one down and go from there!

Ex-Plod, nice choice. Being a 2001 thats a 3.2? Bet that flys!!

Good luck on the MID
Title: Re: Fitting MID into police spec 2001 MV6 (facelif
Post by: Elsheepo on 17 July 2006, 23:50:00
Flys? (checks over his shoulder to check who's watching)..... ohhhhhh yes.

But only at 70mph of course  :-X
Title: Re: Fitting MID into police spec 2001 MV6 (facelif
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 25 July 2006, 10:17:09
If you can cope without check control it might well be quite easy and check control is easy to disable.....
Title: Re: Fitting MID into police spec 2001 MV6 (facelif
Post by: tunnie on 25 July 2006, 19:59:54
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Flys? (checks over his shoulder to check who's watching)..... ohhhhhh yes.

But only at 70mph of course  :-X


I am tempted just to buy one for the summer for some fun, then sell it again!  ;D
Title: Re: Fitting MID into police spec 2001 MV6 (facelif
Post by: Elsheepo on 25 July 2006, 22:54:22
Theya re cheap enough, I paid £5995 for mine a few years back, but that was from a specialist forecourt (http://www.expolicecarcentre.com), but I regularly see them go through fleabay for sub £2000, though usually automatics.  

I love the manual box, really mates man and machine properly, especially when you re-enable the TC switch which the police tend to physcially isolate in behind the dash...
Title: Re: Fitting MID into police spec 2001 MV6 (facelif
Post by: Omega VT3000 on 26 July 2006, 08:22:17
I'll let you know hwo I get on. I have a monochrome display for an NCDC 2013 that I am going to try in my polac.

That has a fuel computer and check control on it.
Title: Re: Fitting MID into police spec 2001 MV6 (facelif
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 26 July 2006, 08:42:47
If you have the NCDC2013 to go with it it might be easier as the trip functions are controled via the selector on the audio units front panel and not by the indicator stalk (there is a can bus link between the NCDC and GID/CID).

The bulb check control is not done by the display, its a seperate module but, as mentioned before, its easy to disable.

I will shortly be posting a maintenance guide on how to fit an NCDC to a facelift car with GID or CID plus I will include the neccassary wiring info to.