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« on: 01 August 2020, 17:50:23 »

car been running great,went to start it just no power faint dash lights central locking not functioning had new starter motor 4 months  ago new battery 6 months ago green showing and new alternator 9 months ago and aux belt had gearbox recd all great but engine not turning or any sigh of life.what could it be???
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Re: cant get started
« Reply #1 on: 01 August 2020, 18:21:09 »

The magic eye only measures one cell. So the battery can be shot and still show green. Measure the battery resting voltage with a voltmeter. Should be 12.6/12.7v fully charged and rested.

Troubleshooting guide can be found here.
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« Reply #2 on: 01 August 2020, 18:29:02 »

thanx do think it maybe the key battery?
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Re: cant get started
« Reply #3 on: 01 August 2020, 19:06:49 »

The magic eye only measures one cell. So the battery can be shot and still show green. Measure the battery resting voltage with a voltmeter. Should be 12.6/12.7v fully charged and rested.

Troubleshooting guide can be found here.


Best thing you can do with a magic eye on a battery is put a piece of tape over it. Then you won't be tempted into thinking it's doing anything useful.


You need to use a multimeter to do some practical diagnosis.
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« Reply #4 on: 01 August 2020, 19:19:19 »

thanx do think it maybe the key battery?
Nope. That would stop your central locking from working. But wouldn't affect the dash lights or immobiliser.
Has it been raining heavily, or car parked a long time and not used, or interior reading lights left on maybe? First thing to do is to check the resting voltage at the battery terminals. If it's not fully charged then charge it up, preferably off the car.
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« Reply #5 on: 01 August 2020, 19:42:13 »

There's an exceptionally useful guide :y
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Re: cant get started
« Reply #6 on: 01 August 2020, 20:42:58 »

Have you got the radio code you will need it if you disconnect the battery.
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Re: cant get started
« Reply #7 on: 01 August 2020, 21:18:14 »

Have you got the radio code you will need it if you disconnect the battery.


Why?
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Re: cant get started
« Reply #8 on: 01 August 2020, 23:30:53 »

i called greenflag out guy reprogrammed key and immoblizer battery  flat  he said i pumped tyres up yest with 12volt pump first time i did it without running engine at same time so must have drained battery and caused all this madness.running fine now he said if battery goes flat again get it back to halfords for replacement 5 year guarantee only had it fitted in jan
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Re: cant get started
« Reply #9 on: 02 August 2020, 14:23:06 »

i called greenflag out guy reprogrammed key and immoblizer battery  flat  he said i pumped tyres up yest with 12volt pump first time i did it without running engine at same time so must have drained battery and caused all this madness.running fine now he said if battery goes flat again get it back to halfords for replacement 5 year guarantee only had it fitted in jan
leaving a Battery permanently connected to an Omega whilst the Car is just sat up doing nothing will finish off the Battery in a very short time, it may recharge ok but it will never be the same again.

If your going to leave it parked up for long durations just diss the Neg lead and place some plastic or cupboard in the way of the terminal. If the Power Sounder starts miss behaving then remove the PS completely.
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Re: cant get started
« Reply #10 on: 02 August 2020, 20:49:56 »

Would that be a genuine GM cupboard Zirk or will any cupboard do? :D :D :D ;D ;D
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« Reply #11 on: 02 August 2020, 21:20:31 »

A pattern one might not fit too well, space is a little tight there :D
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Re: cant get started
« Reply #12 on: 02 August 2020, 21:45:23 »

i called greenflag out guy reprogrammed key and immoblizer battery  flat  he said i pumped tyres up yest with 12volt pump first time i did it without running engine at same time so must have drained battery and caused all this madness.running fine now he said if battery goes flat again get it back to halfords for replacement 5 year guarantee only had it fitted in jan
leaving a Battery permanently connected to an Omega whilst the Car is just sat up doing nothing will finish off the Battery in a very short time, it may recharge ok but it will never be the same again.

If your going to leave it parked up for long durations just diss the Neg lead and place some plastic or cupboard in the way of the terminal. If the Power Sounder starts miss behaving then remove the PS completely.

I'll be attaching jump.leads to my omega tomorrow. It's not moved since lockdown began
 Wish me luck. I suspect I might need a new battery.
I'm sure it will start, I'll drive it to the house, and put the charger on the battery, whilst I replace spark plugs and air filter, and see it it starts again the next day without jump leads. I do hope so. Otherwise a new battery will be required I reckon.
If it does, I'll be finding a local garage to replace the exhaust.
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Re: cant get started
« Reply #13 on: 03 August 2020, 14:24:25 »

i called greenflag out guy reprogrammed key and immoblizer battery  flat  he said i pumped tyres up yest with 12volt pump first time i did it without running engine at same time so must have drained battery and caused all this madness.running fine now he said if battery goes flat again get it back to halfords for replacement 5 year guarantee only had it fitted in jan
leaving a Battery permanently connected to an Omega whilst the Car is just sat up doing nothing will finish off the Battery in a very short time, it may recharge ok but it will never be the same again.

If your going to leave it parked up for long durations just diss the Neg lead and place some plastic or cupboard in the way of the terminal. If the Power Sounder starts miss behaving then remove the PS completely.

I'll be attaching jump.leads to my omega tomorrow. It's not moved since lockdown began
 Wish me luck. I suspect I might need a new battery.
I'm sure it will start, I'll drive it to the house, and put the charger on the battery, whilst I replace spark plugs and air filter, and see it it starts again the next day without jump leads. I do hope so. Otherwise a new battery will be required I reckon.
If it does, I'll be finding a local garage to replace the exhaust.

Help.  I can't get the thing started. 3.2 MV6

Put jump leads on from wife's car, ( with it running)

Engine turns over, but no fire.

Replaced spark plugs ( was planning to do that ) still no start.

I've given up for the day, in disgust.

Any ideas ? Oh and to add insult to injury, my cheap blue tooth code reader doesn't seem to be working properly.
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Re: cant get started
« Reply #14 on: 03 August 2020, 17:55:42 »

i called greenflag out guy reprogrammed key and immoblizer battery  flat  he said i pumped tyres up yest with 12volt pump first time i did it without running engine at same time so must have drained battery and caused all this madness.running fine now he said if battery goes flat again get it back to halfords for replacement 5 year guarantee only had it fitted in jan
leaving a Battery permanently connected to an Omega whilst the Car is just sat up doing nothing will finish off the Battery in a very short time, it may recharge ok but it will never be the same again.

If your going to leave it parked up for long durations just diss the Neg lead and place some plastic or cupboard in the way of the terminal. If the Power Sounder starts miss behaving then remove the PS completely.

I'll be attaching jump.leads to my omega tomorrow. It's not moved since lockdown began
 Wish me luck. I suspect I might need a new battery.
I'm sure it will start, I'll drive it to the house, and put the charger on the battery, whilst I replace spark plugs and air filter, and see it it starts again the next day without jump leads. I do hope so. Otherwise a new battery will be required I reckon.
If it does, I'll be finding a local garage to replace the exhaust.
First off read any fault codes using the Peddle Trick
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« Reply #15 on: 03 August 2020, 18:02:52 »

Might be the crank sensor. Or the fuel pump or the pump relay. Or any number of other issues including not enough oomph from your wife's car. The crank sensor is the first thing I'd like to be certain is working correctly.
 
Any particular reason why you wanted to change the spark plugs? I guess I'm really asking if the car was OK when you parked it up.

I think you're going to have to check for fault codes. Also the terminals in the OBD-II socket on the car can oxidise and impair contact. So wiggle the BT plug in and out a bit and see does that make it work.

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« Reply #16 on: 03 August 2020, 18:18:00 »

Some cars will flood if you look at them... Straight six BMWs for one... If you're to pull the plugs to check/dry them, you may as well change them :y
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Re: cant get started
« Reply #17 on: 03 August 2020, 18:21:39 »

In no particular order...

1. Is the car level?
2. Is there more than 1/3 tank in it. More important if answer to 1. is no.
3. If the answer to either of the above is no, address both by levelling and adding at least two gallons of fuel.
4. Now have someone crank the car whilst you give the tank a good slap from underneath.
5. If none of the above works, replace the crank sensor with a genuine one from a genuine Vauxhall dealer that you genuinely have to walk in to.

And report back.
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Re: cant get started
« Reply #18 on: 03 August 2020, 18:40:24 »

It was working well before lockdown, but due a service, and so i had plugs ready.  They are 4 terminal ones, and the centre electrode was almost totally "worn away".

I had it running about 8 weeks ago because I was preparing my daughter's Bini, for sale and the battery was flat on that, so i moved the omega to start the Bini with jump leads.
Then I had the heart attack 6 weeks ago so, it's sat there.
4 in not understanding why the crank sensor would suddenly fail.
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« Reply #19 on: 03 August 2020, 18:42:18 »

When they fail, they often fail suddenly.  ;)
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« Reply #20 on: 03 August 2020, 19:32:27 »

It was working well before lockdown, but due a service, and so i had plugs ready.  They are 4 terminal ones, and the centre electrode was almost totally "worn away".

I had it running about 8 weeks ago because I was preparing my daughter's Bini, for sale and the battery was flat on that, so i moved the omega to start the Bini with jump leads.
Then I had the heart attack 6 weeks ago so, it's sat there.
4 in not understanding why the crank sensor would suddenly fail.


Why wouldn't it fail suddenly? And how do you know when it failed over the last 5 months?


But you should diagnose properly before just changing stuff: recharge the battery, and get it drop tested; check that the fuel pump is pressurising the fuel rail(there's a test valve to do this) adequately after cranking the engine; how good is the fuel - a low level having stood for several months won't really be useful petrol any more; does the rev counter read when cranking over - not doing so points the finger at the crank sensor, but live data will confirm.


Battery is probably faulty. Weak fuel pump is a straightforward replacement with a NEW one. Same applies to the crank sensor, but that ought to be genuine GM.
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Re: cant get started
« Reply #21 on: 03 August 2020, 20:58:29 »

Bear with me.  I need to take it slow, because need to pace myself. But brother in law came round with his cheapo scanner. Which always worked in it before.
It's showing no fault codes.
Petrol was filled up in March and I did 80 miles, so there's about 3/4 of a tank left.
Battery is properly dead.
With another battery connected it turns over and rev counter works.

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Re: cant get started
« Reply #22 on: 04 August 2020, 14:05:23 »

Okay, there's definately fuel getting to the Engine.
With my best jump leads it's seeing 14.5 V from the car I connected it to, when cranking.
But no fault codes.
So it's going to be the crank sensor then?
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« Reply #23 on: 04 August 2020, 15:32:21 »

Yup ;)

And categorically, only buy a genuine one from a genuine Vauxhall dealer that you genuinely have to walk in to  :y
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« Reply #24 on: 04 August 2020, 19:01:30 »

if there are no fault codes showing, why will it be the crank sensor? This car has been turned over slowly due to a flat battery. Is this not a flooded engine? ie like when cars have been started, moved a few feet & then left.
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« Reply #25 on: 04 August 2020, 19:28:45 »

if there are no fault codes showing, why will it be the crank sensor? This car has been turned over slowly due to a flat battery. Is this not a flooded engine? ie like when cars have been started, moved a few feet & then left.


crank sensor faults don't return codes. That's one of the symptoms. Live data should be used to confirm the fault.


If the OP hadn't already replaced the spark plugs, then a flooded engine would more of a possibility. But it should be considered, and so here's an effective way of clearing a flooded engine: fully charged battery; pull the fuel pump fuse or relay(whichever is easiest); crank the engine over for 20 seconds with the throttle fully open; pause, and repeat 2 or 3 times; refit the fuse and try to start - if it coughs or tries to start, you know you're on the right track. If that doesn't work, remove and dry the plugs using the gas stove or a small blow/soldering torch is most effective, and repeat the earlier procedure before you refit the plugs - this is the place to start if you suspect a flooded BMW I6, Jag V8 or Rx8. Engines like 1.0l Micras(not that there are many left) can often be started by replacing the fuel pump fuse as you crank it over - a trade tip :y
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« Reply #26 on: 04 August 2020, 20:15:43 »

....

crank sensor faults don't return codes.  ...

My 3.0 did ..... 19 IIRC

What's P0335 for then? http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90594.0
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« Reply #27 on: 04 August 2020, 21:25:23 »

That's the official code, but the Omega isn't entirely OBD2 compatible so doesn't throw up everything on the list ;)

The lack of that very code is proof in itself that it's the crank sensor failing.
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« Reply #28 on: 04 August 2020, 22:02:33 »

That's the official code, but the Omega isn't entirely OBD2 compatible so doesn't throw up everything on the list ;)

The lack of that very code is proof in itself that it's the crank sensor failing.

I believe you  .... just curious  ;) ;)
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« Reply #29 on: 05 August 2020, 14:46:49 »

I had this problem with my 2.6 about 6 years ago, would not start and no fault codes.  I replaced the crank sensor and it started first time and had no problems since. I personally did not buy one from the main dealer, the guy in my local independent parts place told me that Vauxhall do not make sensors for their cars.  They are made by Bosch, Semans, VDO and Delphi "formally Lucas".  As long as it is one of these brands he said it is as good as a GM part. The one i fitted was made by Delphi.
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« Reply #30 on: 05 August 2020, 16:41:03 »

I had this problem with my 2.6 about 6 years ago, would not start and no fault codes.  I replaced the crank sensor and it started first time and had no problems since. I personally did not buy one from the main dealer, the guy in my local independent parts place told me that Vauxhall do not make sensors for their cars.  They are made by Bosch, Semans, VDO and Delphi "formally Lucas".  As long as it is one of these brands he said it is as good as a GM part. The one i fitted was made by Delphi.
They don't, but if you buy it from a main dealer, you stand a good chance of getting a genuine part & not a copy Chinese part in a copy branded box.  :y
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« Reply #31 on: 05 August 2020, 16:47:31 »

I had this problem with my 2.6 about 6 years ago, would not start and no fault codes.  I replaced the crank sensor and it started first time and had no problems since. I personally did not buy one from the main dealer, the guy in my local independent parts place told me that Vauxhall do not make sensors for their cars.  They are made by Bosch, Semans, VDO and Delphi "formally Lucas".  As long as it is one of these brands he said it is as good as a GM part. The one i fitted was made by Delphi.
They don't, but if you buy it from a main dealer, you stand a good chance of getting a genuine part & not a copy Chinese part in a copy branded box.  :y


more importantly if it fails it's easier to warranty. This is important when a £60 sensor will immobilise the car.
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« Reply #32 on: 05 August 2020, 22:17:50 »

if there are no fault codes showing, why will it be the crank sensor? This car has been turned over slowly due to a flat battery. Is this not a flooded engine? ie like when cars have been started, moved a few feet & then left.

There's no smell of unburnt petrol out the exhaust, but fuel definately getting to the fuel rail. Which suggests the injectors are not getting a signal.  Hence crank sensor ?
I have a genuine one on the way to try tomorrow afternoon.
Once it's running then a new battery, exhaust, auto fluid swap, and cam belt are planned over the next few weeks.
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« Reply #33 on: 05 August 2020, 22:47:05 »

if there are no fault codes showing, why will it be the crank sensor? This car has been turned over slowly due to a flat battery. Is this not a flooded engine? ie like when cars have been started, moved a few feet & then left.

There's no smell of unburnt petrol out the exhaust, but fuel definately getting to the fuel rail. Which suggests the injectors are not getting a signal.  Hence crank sensor ?
I have a genuine one on the way to try tomorrow afternoon.
Once it's running then a new battery, exhaust, auto fluid swap, and cam belt are planned over the next few weeks.

fingers crossed it's just a crank sensor then  :y
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« Reply #34 on: 06 August 2020, 01:45:46 »

There's no smell of unburnt petrol out the exhaust, but fuel definately getting to the fuel rail. Which suggests the injectors are not getting a signal.  Hence crank sensor ?
I have a genuine one on the way to try tomorrow afternoon.
Once it's running then a new battery, exhaust, auto fluid swap, and cam belt are planned over the next few weeks.
That's lucky! Where did you buy it and how much did it cost? For the last few years those sensors have only been available from a dealer as a special order, 7-10 days from Germany @ £100+VAT or thereabouts. And that's assuming you can find a dealer willing to place an order.

The genuine GM 90540743 sensor, that you likely need, either from GM/Opel or a Bosch dealer should be marked Bosch 0 261 210 131. If the new one doesn't have that number on it then you might have trouble or it might not work at all.
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« Reply #35 on: 06 August 2020, 10:18:33 »

if there are no fault codes showing, why will it be the crank sensor? This car has been turned over slowly due to a flat battery. Is this not a flooded engine? ie like when cars have been started, moved a few feet & then left.

There's no smell of unburnt petrol out the exhaust, but fuel definately getting to the fuel rail. Which suggests the injectors are not getting a signal.  Hence crank sensor ?
I have a genuine one on the way to try tomorrow afternoon.
Once it's running then a new battery, exhaust, auto fluid swap, and cam belt are planned over the next few weeks.

fingers crossed it's just a crank sensor then  :y

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« Reply #36 on: 07 August 2020, 02:40:44 »

Thanks to this forum and especially Omegod who went out of his way today to help me, when he didn't have to.

He messaged me the other day, to say his mate Tony, who is also a member here but not very regular, had a bag of bits including a sensor, and as it happens Tony lives about 5 minutes walk from me.
So I went and looked in the bag, and nothing that looked like a crank sensor.
Omegod, rang me, to tell me he was coming with a second hand one, and immediately drove from the other end of the m57. 
He then borrowed my Jack and axle stand, and swapped it out. Apparently my having had a heart attack six weeks ago gets me special treatment.
It started first time. First time in 3 months.
I shall be getting a spare to put in the boot. 
 So thank you all, for the great advice, and especially Omegod for coming out of his way to help.
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« Reply #37 on: 07 August 2020, 09:14:48 »

Are Omegas  particularly prone to crank sensor failure, or do all modern cars sufffer similarly?
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« Reply #38 on: 07 August 2020, 09:22:18 »

Are Omegas  particularly prone to crank sensor failure, or do all modern cars sufffer similarly?


the original routing of the wires doesn't help Omegas, but crank sensors are a common failure. Anyone who is paranoid about this should buy and fit a new, genuine GM sensor, and keep the current, working one as a spare. Fit the new one  without jacking the car, and you'll be pracitised in changing it if it fails.
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« Reply #39 on: 07 August 2020, 21:52:48 »

AIUI it's the V6s that suffer most with crank sensor failure and yes they can be changed while the car is standing with all four wheels on the floor.
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« Reply #40 on: 07 August 2020, 22:05:53 »

Are Omegas  particularly prone to crank sensor failure, or do all modern cars sufffer similarly?


the original routing of the wires doesn't help Omegas, but crank sensors are a common failure on many modern cars. Anyone who is paranoid about this should buy and fit a new, genuine GM sensor, and keep the current, working one as a spare. Fit the new one  without jacking the car, and you'll be pracitised in changing it if it fails.


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« Reply #41 on: 07 August 2020, 23:15:53 »

I've completely lost track .... has this car started yet?!?!  :-\
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« Reply #42 on: 07 August 2020, 23:25:20 »

Apparently so...
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« Reply #43 on: 07 August 2020, 23:27:02 »

Apparently so...

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« Reply #44 on: 08 August 2020, 00:46:10 »

Secondhand sensor...
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« Reply #45 on: 08 August 2020, 02:49:28 »

I've completely lost track .... has this car started yet?!?!  :-\

My MV6 is running. With a secondhand sensor. None branded. How long it lasts is something that Bill Hills are offering odds on, but I'm treating it as a diagnostic replacement, and will be putting a spare in the boot.
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« Reply #46 on: 08 August 2020, 17:25:47 »

I've completely lost track .... has this car started yet?!?!  :-\
I agree. It's a good example of why piggybacking on somebody else's thread just causes confusion.

Green Flag started John1959's (OP) 3.2 Elite as the battery was flat. I imagine his reference to re-programming the immobiliser is down to poor terminology, more likely Green Flag re-synced the CL remote.

New POD's car is a 3.2 MV6.  Wouldn't start when jumped after standing unused during locking. Fixed with a 2nd hand crank sensor supplied and fitted by member Omegod.
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« Reply #47 on: 08 August 2020, 17:42:43 »

My bad. 
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Symptoms on the face of it were the same.  :y
Car won't start.  :(
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« Reply #48 on: 08 August 2020, 17:43:27 »

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« Reply #49 on: 09 August 2020, 10:18:49 »

Secondhand sensor...
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Which was quicker and cheaper and proved that was the cause of failure to start. 
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« Reply #50 on: 11 August 2020, 14:55:07 »

So, the battery may not be as knackered as I first thought.

I charged it up twice, and left it 2 days, and it started first time.

I've got it back on charge and then I'm away for a week, so when I get back I'll see if it still works, or whether it's lost it's marbles.

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« Reply #51 on: 11 August 2020, 15:02:56 »

It will be flat.
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« Reply #52 on: 11 August 2020, 16:14:26 »

It will be flat.

I'm sure William Hill woukd give you evens on that idea.  I'm under no illusion, that it's 99.99999999% not going to be useful in the winter, and will need to be replaced. But here's hoping.
 After charging it for 5 hours today it's showing 12.9 V.  Up from.12.6 V
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« Reply #53 on: 11 August 2020, 20:28:40 »

if it flat and the car doesnt have any electrical gremlins then yes the battery is more than likely u/s. a good battery on an omega should be able to stand at least 2 months untouched.
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« Reply #54 on: 11 August 2020, 20:45:19 »

So, the battery may not be as knackered as I first thought.

I charged it up twice, and left it 2 days, and it started first time.

I've got it back on charge and then I'm away for a week, so when I get back I'll see if it still works, or whether it's lost it's marbles.



Nice colour!! :y
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« Reply #55 on: 11 August 2020, 21:15:53 »

So, the battery may not be as knackered as I first thought.

I charged it up twice, and left it 2 days, and it started first time.

I've got it back on charge and then I'm away for a week, so when I get back I'll see if it still works, or whether it's lost it's marbles.



Nice colour!! :y
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« Reply #56 on: 12 August 2020, 00:26:21 »

Should have looked a bit closer.... ::).
Probably bowled over by the stunning (and rare) colour.....!
A local breaker to me has a petrol blue CD in. As I have an Elite in that colour,  I can't decide whether its worth getting some panels off it, such as doors.?..?
Having said that, I bought a set of perfect Triumph 2000 doors for my then daily driver in the late 80's from a scrap yard in Bury. I still have the Triumph, and the doors (!!) which are gathering dust at the back of the garage ::)
Usual case, if you have the spares, you often don't need them - but if you haven't got them.......
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« Reply #57 on: 12 August 2020, 00:53:14 »

Distracted by the cat yoga over the road more like... :D
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« Reply #58 on: 12 August 2020, 03:30:30 »

I got a rear passenger door in the right colour and trim from an MV6 in a scrap yard in Wrexham for £25.
Plug and play. Took 35 mins to swap.
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« Reply #59 on: 12 August 2020, 07:58:24 »

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 from a scrap yard in Bury.  .......

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At Pimhole?  :y

It certainly was.... :y At the time there was a good selection of different yards - are they all still there?
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It certainly was.... :y At the time there was a good selection of different yards - are they all still there?

The main players are still there .... it's been a while actually since I've been down there
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« Reply #62 on: 12 August 2020, 16:36:41 »

So, the battery may not be as knackered as I first thought.

I charged it up twice, and left it 2 days, and it started first time.

I've got it back on charge and then I'm away for a week, so when I get back I'll see if it still works, or whether it's lost it's marbles.


Can they actually get a car in those garages across the road?
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« Reply #63 on: 13 August 2020, 19:30:19 »

That mazda, goes in the garage every night.  There's a mk2 mx5 in mine. Nobody else uses them for cars for cars.
The houses were built in 1966, with shared driveways and a space for a garage, so every one had a different size concrete garages.

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