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Title: wifi
Post by: TheBoy on 13 January 2017, 18:00:15
Why is it retards around here have no idea about setting up wifi?

Some mongrel with a new router has just put it on an overlapping channel, and has clearly just been updating their porn collection...  ....impacting my connectivity:

    Packets: Sent = 588, Received = 345, Lost = 243 (41% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 1971ms, Average = 191ms


'tards.  I think its time to make their life a misery  >:(
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: STEMO on 13 January 2017, 18:14:30
https://youtu.be/Ac7G7xOG2Ag
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: steve6367 on 13 January 2017, 18:21:54
Why is it retards around here have no idea about setting up wifi?

Some mongrel with a new router has just put it on an overlapping channel, and has clearly just been updating their porn collection...  ....impacting my connectivity:

    Packets: Sent = 588, Received = 345, Lost = 243 (41% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 1971ms, Average = 191ms


'tards.  I think its time to make their life a misery  >:(

I know what you mean but people just don't get it - my Mum for example would just plug in what came in the post.
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: relluf on 13 January 2017, 18:46:20
https://youtu.be/Ac7G7xOG2Ag




Brilliant!!

Although, I'm not sure about the "drawn recipricatal dingle arm" would work to full capacity at that Velocity.
But could be wrong, has been known on a couple of occasions :)
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: Nick W on 13 January 2017, 18:57:08
Why is it retards around here have no idea about setting up wifi?

'tards.  I think its time to make their life a misery  >:(

I know what you mean but people just don't get it - my Mum for example would just plug in what came in the post.


That's exactly what I do.
Life has enough frustrations without finding the 'instructions' to set-up computer stuff 12 pages into a hidden website, then discovering that they were written by an autistic 12 year old in an obscure Mongolian dialect in a style designed to obfuscate all meaning, and were then translated into English by someone who only speaks Tagalog. A that point it becomes necessary to resist the temptation to 'adjust' the sodding thing with a sledgehammer.


So the procedure is this:


Turn it on.
Use it.
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: STEMO on 13 January 2017, 19:29:03
Why is it retards around here have no idea about setting up wifi?

'tards.  I think its time to make their life a misery  >:(

I know what you mean but people just don't get it - my Mum for example would just plug in what came in the post.


That's exactly what I do.
Life has enough frustrations without finding the 'instructions' to set-up computer stuff 12 pages into a hidden website, then discovering that they were written by an autistic 12 year old in an obscure Mongolian dialect in a style designed to obfuscate all meaning, and were then translated into English by someone who only speaks Tagalog. A that point it becomes necessary to resist the temptation to 'adjust' the sodding thing with a sledgehammer.


So the procedure is this:


Turn it on.
Use it.
Yup.
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 January 2017, 19:30:37
No arguments here either ;D
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: Andy B on 13 January 2017, 19:36:41
Why is it retards around here have no idea about setting up wifi?

'tards.  I think its time to make their life a misery  >:(

I know what you mean but people just don't get it - my Mum for example would just plug in what came in the post.


That's exactly what I do.
Life has enough frustrations without finding the 'instructions' to set-up computer stuff 12 pages into a hidden website, then discovering that they were written by an autistic 12 year old in an obscure Mongolian dialect in a style designed to obfuscate all meaning, and were then translated into English by someone who only speaks Tagalog. A that point it becomes necessary to resist the temptation to 'adjust' the sodding thing with a sledgehammer.


So the procedure is this:


Turn it on.
Use it.
Yup.
And me

didn't know you could do anything other than :-?
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: STEMO on 13 January 2017, 19:52:22
Why is it retards around here have no idea about setting up wifi?

'tards.  I think its time to make their life a misery  >:(

I know what you mean but people just don't get it - my Mum for example would just plug in what came in the post.


That's exactly what I do.
Life has enough frustrations without finding the 'instructions' to set-up computer stuff 12 pages into a hidden website, then discovering that they were written by an autistic 12 year old in an obscure Mongolian dialect in a style designed to obfuscate all meaning, and were then translated into English by someone who only speaks Tagalog. A that point it becomes necessary to resist the temptation to 'adjust' the sodding thing with a sledgehammer.


So the procedure is this:


Turn it on.
Use it.
Yup.
And me

didn't know you could do anything other than :-?
Yes. You can splurge the snubre.......apparently.
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: Andy B on 13 January 2017, 20:07:13
....
Yes. You can splurge the snubre.......apparently.

Ah! Didn't know that was to do with Wifi  ::) ::)
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: Broomies Mate on 13 January 2017, 20:28:48
Every Router gets shipped with the same channel.

So, unless they have been playing with the settings, (or more likely got the Grandson who is a computer 'expert') to have a dabble, there shouldn't be an issue.

Unless of course Mister TB has a strange channel set?
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: biggriffin on 13 January 2017, 20:41:56




That's exactly what I do.
Life has enough frustrations without finding the 'instructions' to set-up computer stuff 12 pages into a hidden website, then discovering that they were written by an autistic 12 year old in an obscure Mongolian dialect in a style designed to obfuscate all meaning, and were then translated into English by someone who only speaks Tagalog. A that point it becomes necessary to resist the temptation to 'adjust' the sodding thing with a sledgehammer.


So the procedure is this:


Turn it on.
Use it.
[/quote] 

I commend to the membership
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: TheBoy on 14 January 2017, 13:20:07
Every Router gets shipped with the same channel.

So, unless they have been playing with the settings, (or more likely got the Grandson who is a computer 'expert') to have a dabble, there shouldn't be an issue.

Unless of course Mister TB has a strange channel set?
No, they don't. It would all work better if everyone was on the same channel.  Most older ones are set to one of the 3/4 non overlapping. Modern ones try to be smart, and usually aren't.  But more than that, people just randomly change channel.
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: TheBoy on 14 January 2017, 13:27:17
Life has enough frustrations without finding the 'instructions' to set-up computer stuff 12 pages into a hidden website, then discovering that they were written by an autistic 12 year old in an obscure Mongolian dialect in a style designed to obfuscate all meaning, and were then translated into English by someone who only speaks Tagalog. A that point it becomes necessary to resist the temptation to 'adjust' the sodding thing with a sledgehammer.


So the procedure is this:


Turn it on.
Use it.
Which is fine if it doesn't impact others, but if you're transmitting around the road, knocking out everyone else...

...though accept society has become a sod-you-I'm-alright-Jack
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: zirk on 14 January 2017, 13:33:26
Scanned one of my Sons Network a few weeks back, seemed the Him and the whole Street were using Ch1, I normally start with 11 if its clear(ish) if not then 6.
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: STEMO on 14 January 2017, 13:36:00
When I log on to my Sky router, it seems to alternate between channels 1 and 11.
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: TheBoy on 14 January 2017, 13:39:25
When I log on to my Sky router, it seems to alternate between channels 1 and 11.
Because its a stupid "unsmart" one...
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: TheBoy on 14 January 2017, 13:45:30
Scanned one of my Sons Network a few weeks back, seemed the Him and the whole Street were using Ch1, I normally start with 11 if its clear(ish) if not then 6.
Just firing up inSSIDer to count the APs I can see from my armchair, and there is at least 1 AP on every single channel except 12. If everyone would use the non overlapping channels, and stick to 20Mhz width, we'd all get better throughput - but the latter seems to be a penile length measurement for the thickos, and the former is just incomprehendable to the carrot crunchers around here.
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: TheBoy on 14 January 2017, 13:46:43
31 APs on 2.4Ghz :(
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: TD on 14 January 2017, 13:52:53
Scanned one of my Sons Network a few weeks back, seemed the Him and the whole Street were using Ch1, I normally start with 11 if its clear(ish) if not then 6.
Just firing up inSSIDer to count the APs I can see from my armchair, and there is at least 1 AP on every single channel except 12. If everyone would use the non overlapping channels, and stick to 20Mhz width, we'd all get better throughput - but the latter seems to be a penile length measurement for the thickos, and the former is just incomprehendable to the carrot crunchers around here.

Just looked to see the AP's as well, 2 on ch1 , 3 on ch6, 1 on ch8, 2 on ch11 and theres 1 on ch3 running at 40Mhz! that spanning loads of channels! I'm on ch13 on my own.
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: STEMO on 14 January 2017, 13:56:03
When I log on to my Sky router, it seems to alternate between channels 1 and 11.
Because its a stupid "unsmart" one...
Works for me, though. Sod everyone else.  ;D
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: TheBoy on 14 January 2017, 14:06:51
Scanned one of my Sons Network a few weeks back, seemed the Him and the whole Street were using Ch1, I normally start with 11 if its clear(ish) if not then 6.
Just firing up inSSIDer to count the APs I can see from my armchair, and there is at least 1 AP on every single channel except 12. If everyone would use the non overlapping channels, and stick to 20Mhz width, we'd all get better throughput - but the latter seems to be a penile length measurement for the thickos, and the former is just incomprehendable to the carrot crunchers around here.

Just looked to see the AP's as well, 2 on ch1 , 3 on ch6, 1 on ch8, 2 on ch11 and theres 1 on ch3 running at 40Mhz! that spanning loads of channels! I'm on ch13 on my own.
11 and 13 are overlapping, non coop. So not ideal.  You'd be better off on 1, sadly 6 and 11 are knackered due to the mongrel on 8.
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: VXL V6 on 14 January 2017, 14:26:50
You know you can get wallpaper with a metallic thread in it.... create your own Faraday cage house  ;D
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: TheBoy on 14 January 2017, 14:54:16
You know you can get wallpaper with a metallic thread in it.... create your own Faraday cage house  ;D
For most part, I use cat5. Its only if I'm laying in bath (or works laptop, as the corporate build only supports VPN over wifi, not lan cable :o)...

Mobile, invariably, I use 4g, as its faster than single channel 2.4Ghz wifi...
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: TD on 14 January 2017, 15:13:58
Scanned one of my Sons Network a few weeks back, seemed the Him and the whole Street were using Ch1, I normally start with 11 if its clear(ish) if not then 6.
Just firing up inSSIDer to count the APs I can see from my armchair, and there is at least 1 AP on every single channel except 12. If everyone would use the non overlapping channels, and stick to 20Mhz width, we'd all get better throughput - but the latter seems to be a penile length measurement for the thickos, and the former is just incomprehendable to the carrot crunchers around here.

Just looked to see the AP's as well, 2 on ch1 , 3 on ch6, 1 on ch8, 2 on ch11 and theres 1 on ch3 running at 40Mhz! that spanning loads of channels! I'm on ch13 on my own.
11 and 13 are overlapping, non coop. So not ideal.  You'd be better off on 1, sadly 6 and 11 are knackered due to the mongrel on 8.

Now on 1, thankyou   :)
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: zirk on 14 January 2017, 16:42:26
You know you can get wallpaper with a metallic thread in it.... create your own Faraday cage house  ;D
When I come into Power Im going to have a Ruling that everyone must wrap the Routers in Tin Foil in order to get rid of this interference malarkey.   :D
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 14 January 2017, 17:32:55
You know you can get wallpaper with a metallic thread in it.... create your own Faraday cage house  ;D
When I come into Power Im going to have a Ruling that everyone must wrap the Routers in Tin Foil in order to get rid of this interference malarkey.   :D
That should see 40 billion Chinese ebay sellers backed up with shit they can't sell :D
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: Mister Rog on 14 January 2017, 22:52:28
Why is it retards around here have no idea about setting up wifi?

'tards.  I think its time to make their life a misery  >:(

I know what you mean but people just don't get it - my Mum for example would just plug in what came in the post.


That's exactly what I do.
Life has enough frustrations without finding the 'instructions' to set-up computer stuff 12 pages into a hidden website, then discovering that they were written by an autistic 12 year old in an obscure Mongolian dialect in a style designed to obfuscate all meaning, and were then translated into English by someone who only speaks Tagalog. A that point it becomes necessary to resist the temptation to 'adjust' the sodding thing with a sledgehammer.


So the procedure is this:


Turn it on.
Use it.
Yup.
And me

didn't know you could do anything other than :-?

Me too. Didn't know there were different channels. Why would I know that ?


Title: Re: wifi
Post by: Nick W on 14 January 2017, 23:13:41
Why is it retards around here have no idea about setting up wifi?

'tards.  I think its time to make their life a misery  >:(

I know what you mean but people just don't get it - my Mum for example would just plug in what came in the post.


That's exactly what I do.
Life has enough frustrations without finding the 'instructions' to set-up computer stuff 12 pages into a hidden website, then discovering that they were written by an autistic 12 year old in an obscure Mongolian dialect in a style designed to obfuscate all meaning, and were then translated into English by someone who only speaks Tagalog. A that point it becomes necessary to resist the temptation to 'adjust' the sodding thing with a sledgehammer.


So the procedure is this:


Turn it on.
Use it.
Yup.
And me

didn't know you could do anything other than :-?

Me too. Didn't know there were different channels. Why would I know that ?


Here's a better question:


now that we all know that, do we care enough to use the information?


I'm sure you all know my answer, but here it is anyway:


No. I've better uses for the time I would have to spend to decipher how the gibberish about APs etc affect anything I own. Then there's the extreme likelihood of me changing one setting on a whatsit in my front room causes a previously secret missile base in Wheretheoppsisitistan to launch everything at the Isle of Wight.
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: TheBoy on 15 January 2017, 12:49:38
I think the entire population should be allowed to drive high power vehicles from the age of 5, without any form of test or training.  And buses, trains and lorries.
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 January 2017, 14:40:01
I think the entire population should be allowed to drive high power vehicles from the age of 5, without any form of test or training.  And buses, trains and lorries.
Trains I agree with, if only to bankrupt the unions ::)
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: tigers_gonads on 15 January 2017, 15:32:21
I think the entire population should be allowed to drive high power vehicles from the age of 5, without any form of test or training.  And buses, trains and lorries.



Don't you mean forced  ::)
Your getting soft in your old age  ;D
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: ronnyd on 15 January 2017, 15:38:06
I wish to God that i knew what the hell you lot were on about. :-[
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: Rods2 on 15 January 2017, 18:36:30
I think the entire population should be allowed to drive high power vehicles from the age of 5, without any form of test or training.  And buses, trains and lorries.

System in Ukraine seems to work very well. At 17 young male goes to police with money in brown envelope and walks out with a full licence, buys rusty old Lada that he can't drive and promptly bins it. By 19 male / female ratio is parity (it takes until 34 in UK) and most males are dead by just over 60, through accidents, vodka, smoking or suicide. :o :o :o
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: YZ250 on 15 January 2017, 20:42:41
I wish to God that i knew what the hell you lot were on about. :-[

Something about sending packets so I assume it's a mailing issue.   ;D   I don't even know how to check that I'm not an offender.   :-\
I logged in to my hub and was advised not to do any manual changes so I'll just leave it alone.  ;D
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 January 2017, 20:49:44
I wish to God that i knew what the hell you lot were on about. :-[

Something about sending packets so I assume it's a mailing issue.   ;D   I don't even know how to check that I'm not an offender.   :-\
I logged in to my hub and was advised not to do any manual changes so I'll just leave it alone.  ;D
Wifey speaks sense :D
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: Mister Rog on 15 January 2017, 21:58:23
I wish to God that i knew what the hell you lot were on about. :-[

Something about sending packets so I assume it's a mailing issue.   ;D   I don't even know how to check that I'm not an offender.   :-\
I logged in to my hub and was advised not to do any manual changes so I'll just leave it alone. ;D

Yep. Exactly.

I know what I need to know to do my job. We all have our areas of experience and expertise. I would not expect Joe Public to know what I know, and I would not regard anyone who did not know what I know as being in any way "thick" I would rather enlighten them, even in the simplest terms.

Title: Re: wifi
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 16 January 2017, 09:49:18
I think the entire population should be allowed to drive high power vehicles from the age of 5, without any form of test or training.  And buses, trains and lorries.

I tried that.It didn't end well.  ;D
We lived on a steep hill with a T junction at the bottom. I got in Dads car ( big old black thing, dunno what make) and somehow released the handbrake and off I went. Mum was looking out the window and saw what Id done so legged it out the door to  and ran to the car, opened the door, and tried to stop the car by grabbing hold off my hair !
This didn't work for some reason. A bloke a few doors down spotted the comical scenario and jumped in the car and pulled the handbrake on.  ;D
Dad gave me a hiding that I still remember 52 years later when he found out.  ::)
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: zirk on 16 January 2017, 14:06:22
I think the entire population should be allowed to drive high power vehicles from the age of 5, without any form of test or training.  And buses, trains and lorries.

I tried that.It didn't end well.  ;D
We lived on a steep hill with a T junction at the bottom. I got in Dads car ( big old black thing, dunno what make) and somehow released the handbrake and off I went. Mum was looking out the window and saw what Id done so legged it out the door to  and ran to the car, opened the door, and tried to stop the car by grabbing hold off my hair !
This didn't work for some reason. A bloke a few doors down spotted the comical scenario and jumped in the car and pulled the handbrake on.  ;D
Dad gave me a hiding that I still remember 52 years later when he found out.  ::)
Must admit, I always did wonder what happened to your hair.  ;D
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 16 January 2017, 16:02:41
Far cough.  :P ;D
Title: Re: wifi
Post by: TheBoy on 16 January 2017, 18:29:32
I think the entire population should be allowed to drive high power vehicles from the age of 5, without any form of test or training.  And buses, trains and lorries.

I tried that.It didn't end well.  ;D
We lived on a steep hill with a T junction at the bottom. I got in Dads car ( big old black thing, dunno what make) and somehow released the handbrake and off I went. Mum was looking out the window and saw what Id done so legged it out the door to  and ran to the car, opened the door, and tried to stop the car by grabbing hold off my hair !
This didn't work for some reason. A bloke a few doors down spotted the comical scenario and jumped in the car and pulled the handbrake on.  ;D
Dad gave me a hiding that I still remember 52 years later when he found out.  ::)
Must admit, I always did wonder what happened to your hair.  ;D
Now that did make me laugh, you naughty, naught man ;D


Sorry MigV6  :P