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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Sir Tigger KC on 14 June 2019, 00:48:34
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Theresa May has committed the UK to net zero carbon emissions by 2050 at an estimated (Philip Hammond) and uncosted price tag of a trillion pounds! (£1,000,000,000,000,000,000) :o
Scotland is going one better and is going for net zero by 2045, that's just 26 years time and the SNP have made vague noises about building a powerful green economy that will create jobs and wealth. This is despite the fact that much of Scotland's offshore windfarms have been built with foreign steel and labour. ::) :-X
The Mayor of Manchester, Labour's Andy Burnham has trumped them all though and says he wants Greater Manchester to be carbon neutral by 2038! ::) Even though there are advanced plans to expand Manchester Airports capacity and a big road building program in the area. :)
Anyway if your wondering what it's all about and when the world is supposed to end, here's a handy report from the UN (https://www.apnews.com/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0) which explains it all. :y
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Theresa May has committed the UK to net zero carbon emissions by 2050 at an estimated (Philip Hammond) and uncosted price tag of a trillion pounds! (£1,000,000,000,000) :o
Scotland is going one better and is going for net zero by 2045, that's just 26 years time and the SNP have made vague noises about building a powerful green economy that will create jobs and wealth. This is despite the fact that much of Scotland's offshore windfarms have been built with foreign steel and labour. ::) :-X
The Mayor of Manchester, Labour's Andy Burnham has trumped them all though and says he wants Greater Manchester to be carbon neutral by 2038! ::) Even though there are advanced plans to expand Manchester Airports capacity and a big road building program in the area. :)
Anyway if your wondering what it's all about and when the world is supposed to end, here's a handy report from the UN (https://www.apnews.com/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0) which explains it all. :y
Knocked three noughts off for accuracy ;D
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Great plan hope it all goes well for everyone 😀😁😂
Will Brexit be sorted by then as well !
A perfect country how nice.
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Caught a bit of a report yesterday that by 2040[or was it 2050?]that a large percentage of the "meat"on sale won't be meat at all but will be plant based in order to cut down on methane emissions.That may or may not be all very well but if there is no demand for beef[other meats available]then no one will rear beef cattle and the species then would become extinct,dairy cattle could also go the same route as milk can be produced from Soya so no need for dairy cattle and this could expand to other breeds.
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Knocked three noughts off for accuracy ;D
Hmmm yes. :-\
It's a bit ambiguous as to what constitutes a trillion. ::)
A thousand billion, a million billion, or a billion billion..... :-\
And that's not to mention zillions and gadzillions! ;D
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Knocked three noughts off for accuracy ;D
Anyway we are talking about climate change, so why let accuracy get in the way of a good story! ::) ;D
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I think we should at least try our best and preferably as soon as possible.
An 80% solution on-time is better than a 100% solution that is late.
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http://www.pagetutor.com/trillion/index.html Just in case someone’s interested, that’s how much a trillion is. Not to be sniffed at :y
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Great plan hope it all goes well for everyone 😀😁😂
Will Brexit be sorted by then as well !
A perfect country how nice.
Trouble is I will not be around to see it, even if it can be achieved. However, perhaps in this grand scheme I will get a government grant to get the Tesla! ;D ;D ;D ;)
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In 2050, we'll be 97, Lizzie. No reason why we shouldn't be here.
Probably still on the forum, listening to Tigger going on about his paltry old age pension.
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I think we should at least try our best and preferably as soon as possible.
An 80% solution on-time is better than a 100% solution that is late.
Yes...we are heading in the right direction .As a boy in the sixties 'renewables' amounted to SFA. Look at the figure now, and it is rising.
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Caught a bit of a report yesterday that by 2040[or was it 2050?]that a large percentage of the "meat"on sale won't be meat at all but will be plant based in order to cut down on methane emissions.That may or may not be all very well but if there is no demand for beef[other meats available]then no one will rear beef cattle and the species then would become extinct,dairy cattle could also go the same route as milk can be produced from Soya so no need for dairy cattle and this could expand to other breeds.
A world without cows, how would we cope? ::)
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Knocked three noughts off for accuracy ;D
Hmmm yes. :-\
It's a bit ambiguous as to what constitutes a trillion. ::)
A thousand billion, a million billion, or a billion billion..... :-\
And that's not to mention zillions and gadzillions! ;D
You were correct in your original poat, your Sirship - a proper English trillion = 10 exp 18, just as our billion = 10 exp 12 and not as rhe septics would have it.
Ron.
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Knocked three noughts off for accuracy ;D
Hmmm yes. :-\
It's a bit ambiguous as to what constitutes a trillion. ::)
A thousand billion, a million billion, or a billion billion..... :-\
And that's not to mention zillions and gadzillions! ;D
You were correct in your original poat, your Sirship - a proper English trillion = 10 exp 18, just as our billion = 10 exp 12 and not as rhe septics would have it.
Ron.
Unfortunately, Ron, we don't count (get it) for much anymore. America rules the financial world and their trillion is the one that matters.
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Knocked three noughts off for accuracy ;D
Hmmm yes. :-\
It's a bit ambiguous as to what constitutes a trillion. ::)
A thousand billion, a million billion, or a billion billion..... :-\
And that's not to mention zillions and gadzillions! ;D
You were correct in your original poat, your Sirship - a proper English trillion = 10 exp 18, just as our billion = 10 exp 12 and not as rhe septics would have it.
Ron.
Unfortunately, Ron, we don't count (get it) for much anymore. America rules the financial world and their trillion is the one that matters.
Sadly, the old boy is correct.
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In 2050, we'll be 97, Lizzie. No reason why we shouldn't be here.
Probably still on the forum, listening to Tigger going on about his paltry old age pension.
The more I think about all that Steve the more I think "get me out of here!!" :o :o ;D ;D ;)
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I was in Sainsbury's the other day and, as I normally do, got talking to members of staff.
The conversation turned to the subject of plastic waste and the products all around the store that are covered in the stuff that ends up in our bins. It is bad for the environment and bad for Sainsbury's and their like if they do not address THE issue that is now subject to much public scrutiny.
I was delighted when the member of staff confirmed that they had been involved in a large meeting within the store and informed that Sainsbury's were going to remove all products from their range that had unnecessary plastic lids, like yoghurt pots, that were packaged with any other plastic that could be replaced with recyclable material, and the plastic bags currently used by customers to package loose goods, like fruit and veg, would be replaced with paper ones, as we used to know.
I asked if there had been any thoughts on following on from the Waitrose test, currently being tried in one of their stores, to offer many goods, like cereals, in bulk loose form so that customers used their own containers. That had not been discussed with the staff, so I suspect that Sainsbury's bosses, like those in other such retail companies are awaiting the results of the Waitrose test.
So, yes, maybe we are going in the right direction at last! :y
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Caught a bit of a report yesterday that by 2040[or was it 2050?]that a large percentage of the "meat"on sale won't be meat at all but will be plant based in order to cut down on methane emissions.That may or may not be all very well but if there is no demand for beef[other meats available]then no one will rear beef cattle and the species then would become extinct,dairy cattle could also go the same route as milk can be produced from Soya so no need for dairy cattle and this could expand to other breeds.
A world without cows, how would we cope? ::)
Mother-in-law free world, happy days
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Morrisons now do re-usable[as long as you don't put any frozen/damp stuff in them in which case they do what paper does and become a soggy mess] paper carrier bags which are very small when compared to an "ordinary"carrier bag and cost 20p each as opposed to the 10p plastic ones they used to sell.
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If it led to the extinction of cows[worst case scenario I know] would we then move onto pigs/sheep/goats in the name of methane emmisions/climate change?Then what? Just think of all the methane emitted by the ever growing population of the human species-TBs cull in full flow?
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If it led to the extinction of cows[worst case scenario I know] would we then move onto pigs/sheep/goats in the name of methane emmisions/climate change?Then what? Just think of all the methane emitted by the ever growing population of the human species-TBs cull in full flow?
I think we'd be ok as long as we banned curry.
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If it led to the extinction of cows[worst case scenario I know] would we then move onto pigs/sheep/goats in the name of methane emmisions/climate change?Then what? Just think of all the methane emitted by the ever growing population of the human species-TBs cull in full flow?
Just go on to eating locusts and their like Baza! ::) ;D ;D ;)
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If it led to the extinction of cows[worst case scenario I know] would we then move onto pigs/sheep/goats in the name of methane emmisions/climate change?Then what? Just think of all the methane emitted by the ever growing population of the human species-TBs cull in full flow?
I think we'd be ok as long as we banned curry.
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A place without curry or fuel for my V8 I'd sooner be dead & probably will be so as the phrase goes couldn't give a flying f**k about all this bullshit from (educated idiots) politicians.
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Theresa May has committed the UK to net zero carbon emissions by 2050 at an estimated (Philip Hammond) and uncosted price tag of a trillion pounds! (£1,000,000,000,000,000,000) :o
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A Trillion now is now defined as a US trillion hence is only 1 000 000 000 000 these days ;)
https://www.google.com/search?q=define+trillion&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB804GB804&oq=define+trillion&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.8752j1j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
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.... and while all others are trying to get shut of plastic, Heinz can't make enough Snap-pot Beanz ???
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They can ban curry as soon as they like,I'd have to be truly starving to death with no other alternative available before I'd eat that crap.Must admit Lizzie locust is one of the culinary delights that's so far passed me by.
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The absolute stupidity of virtually all humans & the triumph of political control & propaganda. Except for one or two on here it fascinating to watch the sheeple at work taking in every 1984-est climate change, emergency or what ever this week's in propaganda word is, using the easiest to brainwash, which are children, as their frontline troops and also as Stalin's told us "They will believe every lie if you repeat it often enough" and virtually all of you on here certainly do.
The quickest way to exterminate life on Earth is carry on with the decline of CO2 until the most welcome current correction is snuffed out. CO2 is not a pollutant but a clear, odourless gas and absolutely essential for all multicellular life. Insufficient amounts of it <120ppm and C3 plants can't grow.
This is why:
140 million years a go CO2 was 3000 ppm and multicellular life had been exploding in variety & quantity during the 4000ppm CO2 preceding Jurassic period. The earth was warmer with no ice poles and sea levels were higher. Two key parts of this are our complete dependence on plants: All multi-cellular life depend on them directly or indirectly for energy & nutrients. Without them Earth's multicellular life is over.
The explosion of plants included the evolution of trees and at that time there was no bacteria or fungus that could breakdown wood so as they died they ended up buried in the ground covered by new layers of sedimentary rock and heat & pressure turned them into seams of coal locking in their carbon.
Sea creatures as part of their defences created hard shells which contains carbon as they died locking in further carbon which over time, heat and pressure created calcium carbonate or chalk. The carbon based creatures as they decomposed produced methane (natural gas) and hydrocarbon residues (oil) which were locked into the earth by further layers of sedimentary rock. Please note: That coal, natural gas & oil are all produced through natural processes and are a natural resource.
The sea acts as a massive CO2 sink. During cold periods if contains more compared to warm periods, so the atmosphere contains more CO2 as it warms up and is released from the sea. This is a lagging process, so doomsday thermal runaway predictions, should never be viewed with anymore creditibily that children's bedtime fables.
We are still in an interglacial period with temperatures about 2oC below the last billion year average as we continue to recover from the last ice age. Part of this has been a constant 1mm rise per year in sea levels and this has not changed. Areas like Scandinavia are still rising from the loss of glacial weight, which had pressed down on them during the last ice age, the same applies to Scotland.
What we get from the climate cycles are also carbon cycles and a double whammy during cold periods of less heat and CO2 where plants need both for photosynthesis, along with water which means that grow much more slowly, if at all. This hit an all time low of 150ppm during the last ice age, just above 120 ppm at which C3 plants start getting into trouble surviving.
If this decrease in CO2 continues then the earth is barren within 2 million years, with multicellular life extinct. Then the heroes arrived, humans and started burning wood & later coal, oil & gas, releasing the carbon as CO2 so life won't end after all, until the current 20th-21st century stupid people & politicians did as well and they are backing the extinction route. >:( >:( >:(
PS: Politicians don't want you to know this as they can't have absolute control over your lifestyles, punitive tax rates & their personal enrichment. So please keep believing suckers, but don't expect history to treat you well. :P ;) ;D
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Rods2, I have been saying much the same for decades, having learned all that at school, but like you, I am amazed how politicians manage to spin their lies and idiots are gullible enough to believe them.
As you say, it is in order to make us compliant and "willing" to pay for our sins in higher taxation.
Ron.
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I'm beginning to wonder if anyone has bothered to look at the UN report I linked to. ::)
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I'm beginning to wonder if anyone has bothered to look at the UN report I linked to. ::)
Which bit? The date or the content? ;D
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I'm beginning to wonder if anyone has bothered to look at the UN report I linked to. ::)
Now look here, Tigger, any report that says the world is only 9° warmer now than it was in the ice age has got to be talking bollix. Right? ::)
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I'm beginning to wonder if anyone has bothered to look at the UN report I linked to. ::)
Now look here, Tigger, any report that says the world is only 9° warmer now than it was in the ice age has got to be talking bollix. Right? ::)
My understanding is that since Barnsley left the EU on the 31st March, global warming will have no effect on that part of the country. :)
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I'm beginning to wonder if anyone has bothered to look at the UN report I linked to. ::)
Now look here, Tigger, any report that says the world is only 9° warmer now than it was in the ice age has got to be talking bollix. Right? ::)
My understanding is that since Barnsley left the EU on the 31st March, global warming will have no effect on that part of the country. :)
You are correct. 15° and pissing it down.
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I'm beginning to wonder if anyone has bothered to look at the UN report I linked to. ::)
Now look here, Tigger, any report that says the world is only 9° warmer now than it was in the ice age has got to be talking bollix. Right? ::)
My understanding is that since Barnsley left the EU on the 31st March, global warming will have no effect on that part of the country. :)
You are correct. 15° and pissing it down.
Yes. Absolute proof. :)
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I'm beginning to wonder if anyone has bothered to look at the UN report I linked to. ::)
Which bit? The date or the content? ;D
;D :y
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I'm beginning to wonder if anyone has bothered to look at the UN report I linked to. ::)
I did so Tigger, and it makes all the points being echoed by the scientific community in general, and we are witnessing in how this World's climate is changing. Various reasons are the cause of this, such as the natural processes of life on Earth.
However, certain individuals, such as Rod who has some political agenda and is claiming conspiracies, dictatorship, mis-information, let alone absolute censorship by all the main political parties everywhere, let alone news agencies like the BBC in everything, has ridiculed those of us who are taking note of serious commentary right across the Globe as though we are fools and acting like sheep, completely ignores the facts that show man's activity is dragging us all down. Common sense, let alone intelligence drives people like me and I think most of you to believe it would be best that we change our ways, which regardless of the arguments makes sense and is logical to us without some political drum to beat.
But Rod, old fella, do you really think the age of coal should return? Do you think the Clean Air Act of 1956 should be abolished as the reasons for it were, and still are, political manipulation and is not necessary. Did you never see the smogs in London, did you never end up with soot all over your body that your mum had to wipe off? Did you not suffer from respiratory issues due to the pollution in the air? Do you still think that men should still go down into sweaty, highly dangerous, and hot mines, contracting serious illness as a result, to provide a fossil fuel that all noteworthy scientists knows kills humans and destroys the environment? Do you not believe in cutting health endangering fossil fuel pollution and giving our children a cleaner, safer, and brighter future, or should our cars still push out the emissions that were prevalent in the UK major cities in the 1950's? Perhaps even smoking tobacco products is not dangerous to our health as the medical, scientific, and political have claimed and are, as we are so stupid that we have allowed ourselves to be dictated to by ' the politicians', and we, the working classes, should just carryon killing ourselves for the profits of a few as it all is an illusion?!
For such an obviously intelligent man you certainly can come out with some crap at times, and then insult the majority on here, as you have in this post, as we know nothing!
For God's sake just go back to attacking Russia and Putin, oh, and everyone else with a different political viewpoint than you ::) ::) ;)
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I'm beginning to wonder if anyone has bothered to look at the UN report I linked to. ::)
I did so Tigger, and it makes all the points being echoed by the scientific community in general, and we are witnessing in how this World's climate is changing. Various reasons are the cause of this, such as the natural processes of life on Earth.
However, certain individuals, such as Rod who has some political agenda and is claiming conspiracies, dictatorship, mis-information, let alone absolute censorship by all the main political parties everywhere, let alone news agencies like the BBC in everything, has ridiculed those of us who are taking note of serious commentary right across the Globe as though we are fools and acting like sheep, completely ignores the facts that show man's activity is dragging us all down. Common sense, let alone intelligence drives people like me and I think most of you to believe it would be best that we change our ways, which regardless of the arguments makes sense and is logical to us without some political drum to beat.
But Rod, old fella, do you really think the age of coal should return? Do you think the Clean Air Act of 1956 should be abolished as the reasons for it were, and still are, political manipulation and is not necessary. Did you never see the smogs in London, did you never end up with soot all over your body that your mum had to wipe off? Did you not suffer from respiratory issues due to the pollution in the air? Do you still think that men should still go down into sweaty, highly dangerous, and hot mines, contracting serious illness as a result, to provide a fossil fuel that all noteworthy scientists knows kills humans and destroys the environment? Do you not believe in cutting health endangering fossil fuel pollution and giving our children a cleaner, safer, and brighter future, or should our cars still push out the emissions that were prevalent in the UK major cities in the 1950's? Perhaps even smoking tobacco products is not dangerous to our health as the medical, scientific, and political have claimed and are, as we are so stupid that we have allowed ourselves to be dictated to by ' the politicians', and we, the working classes, should just carryon killing ourselves for the profits of a few as it all is an illusion?!
For such an obviously intelligent man you certainly can come out with some crap at times, and then insult the majority on here, as you have in this post, as we know nothing!
For God's sake just go back to attacking Russia and Putin, oh, and everyone else with a different political viewpoint than you ::) ::) ;)
Mr Rods will respond just as soon as he has debunked the 'moon landings'........ ;)
50 years ago in July. :y.........or was it all filmed in a secret location in Ohio? ::) ::)
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I'm beginning to wonder if anyone has bothered to look at the UN report I linked to. ::)
I did so Tigger, and it makes all the points being echoed by the scientific community in general, and we are witnessing in how this World's climate is changing. Various reasons are the cause of this, such as the natural processes of life on Earth.
However, certain individuals, such as Rod who has some political agenda and is claiming conspiracies, dictatorship, mis-information, let alone absolute censorship by all the main political parties everywhere, let alone news agencies like the BBC in everything, has ridiculed those of us who are taking note of serious commentary right across the Globe as though we are fools and acting like sheep, completely ignores the facts that show man's activity is dragging us all down. Common sense, let alone intelligence drives people like me and I think most of you to believe it would be best that we change our ways, which regardless of the arguments makes sense and is logical to us without some political drum to beat.
But Rod, old fella, do you really think the age of coal should return? Do you think the Clean Air Act of 1956 should be abolished as the reasons for it were, and still are, political manipulation and is not necessary. Did you never see the smogs in London, did you never end up with soot all over your body that your mum had to wipe off? Did you not suffer from respiratory issues due to the pollution in the air? Do you still think that men should still go down into sweaty, highly dangerous, and hot mines, contracting serious illness as a result, to provide a fossil fuel that all noteworthy scientists knows kills humans and destroys the environment? Do you not believe in cutting health endangering fossil fuel pollution and giving our children a cleaner, safer, and brighter future, or should our cars still push out the emissions that were prevalent in the UK major cities in the 1950's? Perhaps even smoking tobacco products is not dangerous to our health as the medical, scientific, and political have claimed and are, as we are so stupid that we have allowed ourselves to be dictated to by ' the politicians', and we, the working classes, should just carryon killing ourselves for the profits of a few as it all is an illusion?!
For such an obviously intelligent man you certainly can come out with some crap at times, and then insult the majority on here, as you have in this post, as we know nothing!
For God's sake just go back to attacking Russia and Putin, oh, and everyone else with a different political viewpoint than you ::) ::) ;)
Mr Rods will respond just as soon as he has debunked the 'moon landings'........ ;)
50 years ago in July. :y.........or was it all filmed in a secret location in Ohio? ::) ::)
Indeed Opti, you know it was all USA propaganda to get one over on the Russians, who never disputed the US had got there first...... ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
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I'm beginning to wonder if anyone has bothered to look at the UN report I linked to. ::)
I did so Tigger, blah, blah blah, twaddle, twaddle, nonsense, some patronizing stuff, more blah...
For such an obviously intelligent man you certainly can come out with some crap at times, and then insult the majority on here, as you have in this post, as we know nothing!
For God's sake just go back to attacking Russia and Putin, oh, and everyone else with a different political viewpoint than you ::) ::) ;)
If you had actually read it, you would know that the report linked was written well over twenty years ago ;D
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I'm beginning to wonder if anyone has bothered to look at the UN report I linked to. ::)
I did so Tigger, blah, blah blah, twaddle, twaddle, nonsense, some patronizing stuff, more blah...
For such an obviously intelligent man you certainly can come out with some crap at times, and then insult the majority on here, as you have in this post, as we know nothing!
For God's sake just go back to attacking Russia and Putin, oh, and everyone else with a different political viewpoint than you ::) ::) ;)
If you had actually read it, you would know that the report linked was written well over twenty years ago ;D
Yes, and so!!
It is still a document that fairly outlines what is happening and what the implications are if we do nothing. 20 years is nothing in this argument, and is just another piece in the jigsaw of stepping up the aims of tackling what is a threat to our World.
Once more you try to discredit just one simple part of my overall opinion and you want to make hey by suggesting I never read one report. Well I did but i explained in my post far more than just what was in that report.
Hey, I am fed up of feeling the need to justify myself to you.............but it is obviously part of your hobby to do that.
Sad.
Now back to the very serious subject of Climate Change and Mankind damaging the planet..........!!!
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I'm beginning to wonder if anyone has bothered to look at the UN report I linked to. ::)
I did so Tigger, and it makes all the points being echoed by the scientific community in general, and we are witnessing in how this World's climate is changing. Various reasons are the cause of this, such as the natural processes of life on Earth.
However, certain individuals, such as Rod who has some political agenda and is claiming conspiracies, dictatorship, mis-information, let alone absolute censorship by all the main political parties everywhere, let alone news agencies like the BBC in everything, has ridiculed those of us who are taking note of serious commentary right across the Globe as though we are fools and acting like sheep, completely ignores the facts that show man's activity is dragging us all down. Common sense, let alone intelligence drives people like me and I think most of you to believe it would be best that we change our ways, which regardless of the arguments makes sense and is logical to us without some political drum to beat.
But Rod, old fella, do you really think the age of coal should return? Do you think the Clean Air Act of 1956 should be abolished as the reasons for it were, and still are, political manipulation and is not necessary. Did you never see the smogs in London, did you never end up with soot all over your body that your mum had to wipe off? Did you not suffer from respiratory issues due to the pollution in the air? Do you still think that men should still go down into sweaty, highly dangerous, and hot mines, contracting serious illness as a result, to provide a fossil fuel that all noteworthy scientists knows kills humans and destroys the environment? Do you not believe in cutting health endangering fossil fuel pollution and giving our children a cleaner, safer, and brighter future, or should our cars still push out the emissions that were prevalent in the UK major cities in the 1950's? Perhaps even smoking tobacco products is not dangerous to our health as the medical, scientific, and political have claimed and are, as we are so stupid that we have allowed ourselves to be dictated to by ' the politicians', and we, the working classes, should just carryon killing ourselves for the profits of a few as it all is an illusion?!
For such an obviously intelligent man you certainly can come out with some crap at times, and then insult the majority on here, as you have in this post, as we know nothing!
For God's sake just go back to attacking Russia and Putin, oh, and everyone else with a different political viewpoint than you ::) ::) ;)
Mr Rods will respond just as soon as he has debunked the 'moon landings'........ ;)
50 years ago in July. :y.........or was it all filmed in a secret location in Ohio? ::) ::)
Always thought that Capricorn 1 was a very good film. Yes, i know it was about a Mars landing, or not. ;)
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I'm beginning to wonder if anyone has bothered to look at the UN report I linked to. ::)
I did so Tigger, and it makes all the points being echoed by the scientific community in general, and we are witnessing in how this World's climate is changing. Various reasons are the cause of this, such as the natural processes of life on Earth.
However, certain individuals, such as Rod who has some political agenda and is claiming conspiracies, dictatorship, mis-information, let alone absolute censorship by all the main political parties everywhere, let alone news agencies like the BBC in everything, has ridiculed those of us who are taking note of serious commentary right across the Globe as though we are fools and acting like sheep, completely ignores the facts that show man's activity is dragging us all down. Common sense, let alone intelligence drives people like me and I think most of you to believe it would be best that we change our ways, which regardless of the arguments makes sense and is logical to us without some political drum to beat.
But Rod, old fella, do you really think the age of coal should return? Do you think the Clean Air Act of 1956 should be abolished as the reasons for it were, and still are, political manipulation and is not necessary. Did you never see the smogs in London, did you never end up with soot all over your body that your mum had to wipe off? Did you not suffer from respiratory issues due to the pollution in the air? Do you still think that men should still go down into sweaty, highly dangerous, and hot mines, contracting serious illness as a result, to provide a fossil fuel that all noteworthy scientists knows kills humans and destroys the environment? Do you not believe in cutting health endangering fossil fuel pollution and giving our children a cleaner, safer, and brighter future, or should our cars still push out the emissions that were prevalent in the UK major cities in the 1950's? Perhaps even smoking tobacco products is not dangerous to our health as the medical, scientific, and political have claimed and are, as we are so stupid that we have allowed ourselves to be dictated to by ' the politicians', and we, the working classes, should just carryon killing ourselves for the profits of a few as it all is an illusion?!
For such an obviously intelligent man you certainly can come out with some crap at times, and then insult the majority on here, as you have in this post, as we know nothing!
For God's sake just go back to attacking Russia and Putin, oh, and everyone else with a different political viewpoint than you ::) ::) ;)
Mr Rods will respond just as soon as he has debunked the 'moon landings'........ ;)
50 years ago in July. :y.........or was it all filmed in a secret location in Ohio? ::) ::)
Indeed Opti, you know it was all USA propaganda to get one over on the Russians, who never disputed the US had got there first...... ::) ::) ;D
Yep....nothing from the USSR, GDR, or China. And in in 1969 the cold war was in full swing.
However........there is always some middle-aged misfit who has never had sex, and still lives with his Mum, in Montana, Arizona, or other such places who knows the real truth. ;)
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I'm beginning to wonder if anyone has bothered to look at the UN report I linked to. ::)
I did so Tigger, and it makes all the points being echoed by the scientific community in general, and we are witnessing in how this World's climate is changing. Various reasons are the cause of this, such as the natural processes of life on Earth.
However, certain individuals, such as Rod who has some political agenda and is claiming conspiracies, dictatorship, mis-information, let alone absolute censorship by all the main political parties everywhere, let alone news agencies like the BBC in everything, has ridiculed those of us who are taking note of serious commentary right across the Globe as though we are fools and acting like sheep, completely ignores the facts that show man's activity is dragging us all down. Common sense, let alone intelligence drives people like me and I think most of you to believe it would be best that we change our ways, which regardless of the arguments makes sense and is logical to us without some political drum to beat.
But Rod, old fella, do you really think the age of coal should return? Do you think the Clean Air Act of 1956 should be abolished as the reasons for it were, and still are, political manipulation and is not necessary. Did you never see the smogs in London, did you never end up with soot all over your body that your mum had to wipe off? Did you not suffer from respiratory issues due to the pollution in the air? Do you still think that men should still go down into sweaty, highly dangerous, and hot mines, contracting serious illness as a result, to provide a fossil fuel that all noteworthy scientists knows kills humans and destroys the environment? Do you not believe in cutting health endangering fossil fuel pollution and giving our children a cleaner, safer, and brighter future, or should our cars still push out the emissions that were prevalent in the UK major cities in the 1950's? Perhaps even smoking tobacco products is not dangerous to our health as the medical, scientific, and political have claimed and are, as we are so stupid that we have allowed ourselves to be dictated to by ' the politicians', and we, the working classes, should just carryon killing ourselves for the profits of a few as it all is an illusion?!
For such an obviously intelligent man you certainly can come out with some crap at times, and then insult the majority on here, as you have in this post, as we know nothing!
For God's sake just go back to attacking Russia and Putin, oh, and everyone else with a different political viewpoint than you ::) ::) ;)
Mr Rods will respond just as soon as he has debunked the 'moon landings'........ ;)
50 years ago in July. :y.........or was it all filmed in a secret location in Ohio? ::) ::)
Always thought that Capricorn 1 was a very good film. Yes, i know it was about a Mars landing, or not. ;)
Agreed. :y
Was it Charlton Heston or was that Planet of the apes?.......I'm too bone idle to Google. :P
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Elliot Gould and James Brolin ya lazy bugger. ;D You can tell i,m stuck indoors due to the shitty weather. :D
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I'm beginning to wonder if anyone has bothered to look at the UN report I linked to. ::)
I did so Tigger, and it makes all the points being echoed by the scientific community in general, and we are witnessing in how this World's climate is changing. Various reasons are the cause of this, such as the natural processes of life on Earth.
However, certain individuals, such as Rod who has some political agenda and is claiming conspiracies, dictatorship, mis-information, let alone absolute censorship by all the main political parties everywhere, let alone news agencies like the BBC in everything, has ridiculed those of us who are taking note of serious commentary right across the Globe as though we are fools and acting like sheep, completely ignores the facts that show man's activity is dragging us all down. Common sense, let alone intelligence drives people like me and I think most of you to believe it would be best that we change our ways, which regardless of the arguments makes sense and is logical to us without some political drum to beat.
But Rod, old fella, do you really think the age of coal should return? Do you think the Clean Air Act of 1956 should be abolished as the reasons for it were, and still are, political manipulation and is not necessary. Did you never see the smogs in London, did you never end up with soot all over your body that your mum had to wipe off? Did you not suffer from respiratory issues due to the pollution in the air? Do you still think that men should still go down into sweaty, highly dangerous, and hot mines, contracting serious illness as a result, to provide a fossil fuel that all noteworthy scientists knows kills humans and destroys the environment? Do you not believe in cutting health endangering fossil fuel pollution and giving our children a cleaner, safer, and brighter future, or should our cars still push out the emissions that were prevalent in the UK major cities in the 1950's? Perhaps even smoking tobacco products is not dangerous to our health as the medical, scientific, and political have claimed and are, as we are so stupid that we have allowed ourselves to be dictated to by ' the politicians', and we, the working classes, should just carryon killing ourselves for the profits of a few as it all is an illusion?!
For such an obviously intelligent man you certainly can come out with some crap at times, and then insult the majority on here, as you have in this post, as we know nothing!
For God's sake just go back to attacking Russia and Putin, oh, and everyone else with a different political viewpoint than you ::) ::) ;)
Rumour has it if Boris becomes PM 20 Capstan full strength will be classed as one of our 'five a day'
Can't beat a good healthy cough. :)
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I'm beginning to wonder if anyone has bothered to look at the UN report I linked to. ::)
I did so Tigger, and it makes all the points being echoed by the scientific community in general, and we are witnessing in how this World's climate is changing. Various reasons are the cause of this, such as the natural processes of life on Earth.
However, certain individuals, such as Rod who has some political agenda and is claiming conspiracies, dictatorship, mis-information, let alone absolute censorship by all the main political parties everywhere, let alone news agencies like the BBC in everything, has ridiculed those of us who are taking note of serious commentary right across the Globe as though we are fools and acting like sheep, completely ignores the facts that show man's activity is dragging us all down. Common sense, let alone intelligence drives people like me and I think most of you to believe it would be best that we change our ways, which regardless of the arguments makes sense and is logical to us without some political drum to beat.
But Rod, old fella, do you really think the age of coal should return? Do you think the Clean Air Act of 1956 should be abolished as the reasons for it were, and still are, political manipulation and is not necessary. Did you never see the smogs in London, did you never end up with soot all over your body that your mum had to wipe off? Did you not suffer from respiratory issues due to the pollution in the air? Do you still think that men should still go down into sweaty, highly dangerous, and hot mines, contracting serious illness as a result, to provide a fossil fuel that all noteworthy scientists knows kills humans and destroys the environment? Do you not believe in cutting health endangering fossil fuel pollution and giving our children a cleaner, safer, and brighter future, or should our cars still push out the emissions that were prevalent in the UK major cities in the 1950's? Perhaps even smoking tobacco products is not dangerous to our health as the medical, scientific, and political have claimed and are, as we are so stupid that we have allowed ourselves to be dictated to by ' the politicians', and we, the working classes, should just carryon killing ourselves for the profits of a few as it all is an illusion?!
For such an obviously intelligent man you certainly can come out with some crap at times, and then insult the majority on here, as you have in this post, as we know nothing!
For God's sake just go back to attacking Russia and Putin, oh, and everyone else with a different political viewpoint than you ::) ::) ;)
Mr Rods will respond just as soon as he has debunked the 'moon landings'........ ;)
50 years ago in July. :y.........or was it all filmed in a secret location in Ohio? ::) ::)
Indeed Opti, you know it was all USA propaganda to get one over on the Russians, who never disputed the US had got there first...... ::) ::) ;D
Yep....nothing from the USSR, GDR, or China. And in in 1969 the cold war was in full swing.
However........there is always some middle-aged misfit who has never had sex, and still lives with his Mum, in Montana, Arizona, or other such places who knows the real truth. ;)
I believe you can see Arizona from Montana, what with the earth being flat and all. ;D
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It’s all crap, the majority of emissions is coming from cracks in the earth and volcano type stuff under the oceans which cover 71% of the earths surface,and also contain 99% of the living space on the planet. But of course it’s all hidden underwater. Can’t see all this green crap making hardly any difference myself.
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I'm beginning to wonder if anyone has bothered to look at the UN report I linked to. ::)
I did so Tigger, and it makes all the points being echoed by the scientific community in general, and we are witnessing in how this World's climate is changing. Various reasons are the cause of this, such as the natural processes of life on Earth.
However, certain individuals, such as Rod who has some political agenda and is claiming conspiracies, dictatorship, mis-information, let alone absolute censorship by all the main political parties everywhere, let alone news agencies like the BBC in everything, has ridiculed those of us who are taking note of serious commentary right across the Globe as though we are fools and acting like sheep, completely ignores the facts that show man's activity is dragging us all down. Common sense, let alone intelligence drives people like me and I think most of you to believe it would be best that we change our ways, which regardless of the arguments makes sense and is logical to us without some political drum to beat.
But Rod, old fella, do you really think the age of coal should return? Do you think the Clean Air Act of 1956 should be abolished as the reasons for it were, and still are, political manipulation and is not necessary. Did you never see the smogs in London, did you never end up with soot all over your body that your mum had to wipe off? Did you not suffer from respiratory issues due to the pollution in the air? Do you still think that men should still go down into sweaty, highly dangerous, and hot mines, contracting serious illness as a result, to provide a fossil fuel that all noteworthy scientists knows kills humans and destroys the environment? Do you not believe in cutting health endangering fossil fuel pollution and giving our children a cleaner, safer, and brighter future, or should our cars still push out the emissions that were prevalent in the UK major cities in the 1950's? Perhaps even smoking tobacco products is not dangerous to our health as the medical, scientific, and political have claimed and are, as we are so stupid that we have allowed ourselves to be dictated to by ' the politicians', and we, the working classes, should just carryon killing ourselves for the profits of a few as it all is an illusion?!
For such an obviously intelligent man you certainly can come out with some crap at times, and then insult the majority on here, as you have in this post, as we know nothing!
For God's sake just go back to attacking Russia and Putin, oh, and everyone else with a different political viewpoint than you ::) ::) ;)
Mr Rods will respond just as soon as he has debunked the 'moon landings'........ ;)
50 years ago in July. :y.........or was it all filmed in a secret location in Ohio? ::) ::)
Indeed Opti, you know it was all USA propaganda to get one over on the Russians, who never disputed the US had got there first...... ::) ::) ;D
Yep....nothing from the USSR, GDR, or China. And in in 1969 the cold war was in full swing.
However........there is always some middle-aged misfit who has never had sex, and still lives with his Mum, in Montana, Arizona, or other such places who knows the real truth. ;)
The conspiracy theorists are always amoungst us Opti! :o :o ;D ;D :y
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I'm beginning to wonder if anyone has bothered to look at the UN report I linked to. ::)
I did so Tigger, and it makes all the points being echoed by the scientific community in general, and we are witnessing in how this World's climate is changing. Various reasons are the cause of this, such as the natural processes of life on Earth.
However, certain individuals, such as Rod who has some political agenda and is claiming conspiracies, dictatorship, mis-information, let alone absolute censorship by all the main political parties everywhere, let alone news agencies like the BBC in everything, has ridiculed those of us who are taking note of serious commentary right across the Globe as though we are fools and acting like sheep, completely ignores the facts that show man's activity is dragging us all down. Common sense, let alone intelligence drives people like me and I think most of you to believe it would be best that we change our ways, which regardless of the arguments makes sense and is logical to us without some political drum to beat.
But Rod, old fella, do you really think the age of coal should return? Do you think the Clean Air Act of 1956 should be abolished as the reasons for it were, and still are, political manipulation and is not necessary. Did you never see the smogs in London, did you never end up with soot all over your body that your mum had to wipe off? Did you not suffer from respiratory issues due to the pollution in the air? Do you still think that men should still go down into sweaty, highly dangerous, and hot mines, contracting serious illness as a result, to provide a fossil fuel that all noteworthy scientists knows kills humans and destroys the environment? Do you not believe in cutting health endangering fossil fuel pollution and giving our children a cleaner, safer, and brighter future, or should our cars still push out the emissions that were prevalent in the UK major cities in the 1950's? Perhaps even smoking tobacco products is not dangerous to our health as the medical, scientific, and political have claimed and are, as we are so stupid that we have allowed ourselves to be dictated to by ' the politicians', and we, the working classes, should just carryon killing ourselves for the profits of a few as it all is an illusion?!
For such an obviously intelligent man you certainly can come out with some crap at times, and then insult the majority on here, as you have in this post, as we know nothing!
For God's sake just go back to attacking Russia and Putin, oh, and everyone else with a different political viewpoint than you ::) ::) ;)
Mr Rods will respond just as soon as he has debunked the 'moon landings'........ ;)
50 years ago in July. :y.........or was it all filmed in a secret location in Ohio? ::) ::)
Indeed Opti, you know it was all USA propaganda to get one over on the Russians, who never disputed the US had got there first...... ::) ::) ;D
Yep....nothing from the USSR, GDR, or China. And in in 1969 the cold war was in full swing.
However........there is always some middle-aged misfit who has never had sex, and still lives with his Mum, in Montana, Arizona, or other such places who knows the real truth. ;)
The conspiracy theorists are always amoungst us Opti! :o :o ;D ;D :y
There is a rumour that Adolf Hitler is alive and well and living on Mars. :)
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.......used the very last V2 rocket, apparently. :)
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.......used the very last V2 rocket, apparently. :)
All true Opti! The SS scientists found a way he could live forever, and that is why he faked his suicide like the Russians claimed and with Eva travelled afar in that V2, but not to the Moon as that is an illusion and does not exist, just being created by the Americans in the early sixties so they could claim they landed on it in 1969 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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I've lifted this from another site.... :)
Huge amounts of electrical energy are used by Tumble dryers, equivalent to running the, as yet unbuilt) Hinkley C for more than 12 hours several times a week...
BUT THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO HANG WASHING OUT, and that's going back to the stone age, doing stuff like mum and granny did...
My maths
There are 27,200,000 households in the UK, 58% of them have tumble dryers (data from web)
=27,200,000*58%= 15,776,000 tumble dryers in UK
Based on an average energy use of 2.50 kWh per cycle (data from web)
Then the combined number uses = 15,776,000 * 2.5 = 39,440,000kWh or 39,440MWh
to run them all for 1 cycle.
Hinkley Point C will produce 3,200MW when it's up and running. (data from web)
So it will have to run for 39,440/3,200 = 12.325hrs or 12 hrs 20 mins, to run all the tumble dryers for one cycle each...
Or if they were all to run at once it would need 12.325 nuclear power stations the same as Hinkley Point C to run them.
AND THAT'S JUST PER CYCLE MANY DRYERS ARE RUN SEVERAL TIMES A WEEK!
Scary... 😱🤯 hope my math is wrong, but I don't think so...
I don't know how accurate this is, but it certainly makes you think. ::)
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Mrs Builder's tumble dryer vents via a 4" in floor pipe (heating the floor) into a heat exchanger that warms the Koi in the fish house .which is insulated ,28mm K glass windows etc.
I drive an environmentally friendly petrol V6
you could say i'm a bit of a tree hugger *
*apart from all my one's,which I've chainsawed down obviously
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I've lifted this from another site.... :)
Huge amounts of electrical energy are used by Tumble dryers, equivalent to running the, as yet unbuilt) Hinkley C for more than 12 hours several times a week...
BUT THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO HANG WASHING OUT, and that's going back to the stone age, doing stuff like mum and granny did...
My maths
There are 27,200,000 households in the UK, 58% of them have tumble dryers (data from web)
=27,200,000*58%= 15,776,000 tumble dryers in UK
Based on an average energy use of 2.50 kWh per cycle (data from web)
Then the combined number uses = 15,776,000 * 2.5 = 39,440,000kWh or 39,440MWh
to run them all for 1 cycle.
Hinkley Point C will produce 3,200MW when it's up and running. (data from web)
So it will have to run for 39,440/3,200 = 12.325hrs or 12 hrs 20 mins, to run all the tumble dryers for one cycle each...
Or if they were all to run at once it would need 12.325 nuclear power stations the same as Hinkley Point C to run them.
AND THAT'S JUST PER CYCLE MANY DRYERS ARE RUN SEVERAL TIMES A WEEK!
Scary... 😱🤯 hope my math is wrong, but I don't think so...
I don't know how accurate this is, but it certainly makes you think. ::)
Whilst I agree with the general train of thought, the idea that all 58% of households use their tumble dryer an average of once a week seems suspect to me. We have one, but it only gets used once in a blue moon - usually in winter when it's too cold/rainy/dark to get stuff dry indoors or on the line. Yes some will use theirs more than once a week, but I'd bet the average usage is a lot lower than that.
I mean - in 2013 there were supposedly 83million mobile phones in the UK, yet only 64million people. And I've got 3 cars but can only use one at a time. Owning something doesn't imply it's used.
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Yes I also have one which is rarely used, but on the flip side at least 3 of my neighbours never put washing out.
I'd bet that for every rarely used tumble dryer, there are at least one that is used several times a week, especially those with young kids. ;)
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Mrs Builder's tumble dryer vents via a 4" in floor pipe (heating the floor) into a heat exchanger that warms the Koi in the fish house .which is insulated ,28mm K glass windows etc.
I drive an environmentally friendly petrol V6
you could say i'm a bit of a tree hugger *
*apart from all my one's,which I've chainsawed down obviously
Yeah, yeah. ;D
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Mrs Builder's tumble dryer vents via a 4" in floor pipe (heating the floor) into a heat exchanger that warms the Koi in the fish house .which is insulated ,28mm K glass windows etc.
I drive an environmentally friendly petrol V6
you could say i'm a bit of a tree hugger *
*apart from all my one's,which I've chainsawed down obviously
Yeah, yeah. ;D
I hang up anything I wash in the conservatory to dry ;D
I say that, we had a new washing machine a couple of weeks ago and it's that fekin complicated , even Mrs Builder has to read the instructions :( and it takes 3 hours to wash (supposedly washing using less water and electricity)
I knew how to press the start button on the 10 year old indersit machine ::)
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Mrs Builder's tumble dryer vents via a 4" in floor pipe (heating the floor) into a heat exchanger that warms the Koi in the fish house .which is insulated ,28mm K glass windows etc.
I drive an environmentally friendly petrol V6
you could say i'm a bit of a tree hugger *
*apart from all my one's,which I've chainsawed down obviously
Yeah, yeah. ;D
I hang up anything I wash in the conservatory to dry ;D
I say that, we had a new washing machine a couple of weeks ago and it's that fekin complicated , even Mrs Builder has to read the instructions :( and it takes 3 hours to wash (supposedly washing using less water and electricity)
I knew how to press the start button on the 10 year old indersit machine ::)
The eco cycle is veeeeery long, other cycles are available.
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I've lifted this from another site.... :)
Huge amounts of electrical energy are used by Tumble dryers, equivalent to running the, as yet unbuilt) Hinkley C for more than 12 hours several times a week...
BUT THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO HANG WASHING OUT, and that's going back to the stone age, doing stuff like mum and granny did...
My maths
There are 27,200,000 households in the UK, 58% of them have tumble dryers (data from web)
=27,200,000*58%= 15,776,000 tumble dryers in UK
Based on an average energy use of 2.50 kWh per cycle (data from web)
Then the combined number uses = 15,776,000 * 2.5 = 39,440,000kWh or 39,440MWh
to run them all for 1 cycle.
Hinkley Point C will produce 3,200MW when it's up and running. (data from web)
So it will have to run for 39,440/3,200 = 12.325hrs or 12 hrs 20 mins, to run all the tumble dryers for one cycle each...
Or if they were all to run at once it would need 12.325 nuclear power stations the same as Hinkley Point C to run them.
AND THAT'S JUST PER CYCLE MANY DRYERS ARE RUN SEVERAL TIMES A WEEK!
Scary... 😱🤯 hope my math is wrong, but I don't think so...
I don't know how accurate this is, but it certainly makes you think. ::)
.........wringing the washing out by hand before running it through the mangle.....*
*......old women with saggy old titties are advised to not stand too close to the mangle when in operation. :) ;)
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Especially if they are aunty Mable. :y ;D
Tumble dryer in our house gets used very rarely. Washing is almost always hung on the washing line. Don't understand why anyone would use a dryer all the time if they have the option of a washing line. :-\
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Especially if they are aunty Mable. :y ;D
Tumble dryer in our house gets used very rarely. Washing is almost always hung on the washing line. Don't understand why anyone would use a dryer all the time if they have the option of a washing line. :-\
Left tit if memory serves. :D
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Especially if they are aunty Mable. :y ;D
Tumble dryer in our house gets used very rarely. Washing is almost always hung on the washing line. Don't understand why anyone would use a dryer all the time if they have the option of a washing line. :-\
That is one of the many changes since the old days of the yard or garden for washing being put out on a certain day of the week - never a Sunday - when the wise men somewhere thought that high rise blocks of flats would be a good idea, especially post war.
How I wish, living in a low rise flat without a balcony, I had my gardens back! Wouldn't want though my grandmothers and even mums hands during the early years of her marriage; all that wringing out, scrubbing, and constant washing in very hot unfriendly soapy water did no good to them! :o :o :'( :'( ;)
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..........and before anyone asks,I do use a tumble dryer but use it sparingly with big loads to offset my carbon footprint as I bomb along in my 3.2! :P ;) :D :D :D ;)
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Especially if they are aunty Mable. :y ;D
Tumble dryer in our house gets used very rarely. Washing is almost always hung on the washing line. Don't understand why anyone would use a dryer all the time if they have the option of a washing line. :-\
Left tit if memory serves. :D
Your memory serves you well. :y ;D
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Especially if they are aunty Mable. :y ;D
Tumble dryer in our house gets used very rarely. Washing is almost always hung on the washing line. Don't understand why anyone would use a dryer all the time if they have the option of a washing line. :-\
Left tit if memory serves. :D
Your memory serves you well. :y ;D
https://youtu.be/_ZEEgIti8sM (https://youtu.be/_ZEEgIti8sM)
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Especially if they are aunty Mable. :y ;D
Tumble dryer in our house gets used very rarely. Washing is almost always hung on the washing line. Don't understand why anyone would use a dryer all the time if they have the option of a washing line. :-\
Left tit if memory serves. :D
Your memory serves you well. :y ;D
That sentence has just put a reminder into my head of the 1968 hit, This Wheel's On Fire, written by Bob Dylan, of Julie Driscoll, Brian Auger and The Trinity which for me was one of the great songs, and there were quite a number, in that year.
The song, created by Dylan after apparently having a very near death experience on his motorbike, actually starts, and has the repeated lyric of "If your memory serves you well".............. :D
It reminds me of those distant great days when we were, relatively to today, completely free and in our wonderful innocence and youthful arrogance thought nothing about the environment or saving the planet, well apart from Doctor Who keeping the Daleks at bay!! We knew there was a problem with fossil fuels, and the Clean Air Act 1956 made us who were tuned in to history aware something was on the agenda for dealing with problems to come, but really I just wanted a nice car or a boyfriend with a Lambretta 200GT; now the latter was so fab, and the Cortina GT was just a day dream!
For those who cannot remember those days, or pretend not to, and are interested this is the Top Of The Pops recording of the day which I watched for the first time in our Youth Club:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkCBVZHrstE
Enjoy, and if your memory serves you well think of the way of life then JUST 51 years ago!! :o :o :-* :-* ;)
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Also from 1968, Lizzie. :-* :-* :-*
https://youtu.be/en1uwIzI3SE (https://youtu.be/en1uwIzI3SE)
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Also from 1968, Lizzie. :-* :-* :-*
https://youtu.be/en1uwIzI3SE (https://youtu.be/en1uwIzI3SE)
Ah yes, Arthur Brown and me and my friends all went crazy over with his one hit. He was so different, even in THE year of 68 with just so many great songs, he stood out 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) :-* :y.
You probably know that he regularly set himself accidentally on fire! :D :D ;)
Think of all the carbon he burnt! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Also from 1968, Lizzie. :-* :-* :-*
https://youtu.be/en1uwIzI3SE (https://youtu.be/en1uwIzI3SE)
Ah yes, Arthur Brown and me and my friends all went crazy over with his one hit. He was so different, even in THE year of 68 with just so many great songs, he stood out 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) :-* :y.
You probably know that he regularly set himself accidentally on fire! :D :D ;)
Think of all the carbon he burnt! ;D ;D ;D ;D
I like this offering from The summer of 'lurrrvvve' in 1967....... :-* :-* :-* :-*
https://youtu.be/IlLWITxkmW8 (https://youtu.be/IlLWITxkmW8)
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Also from 1968, Lizzie. :-* :-* :-*
https://youtu.be/en1uwIzI3SE (https://youtu.be/en1uwIzI3SE)
Ah yes, Arthur Brown and me and my friends all went crazy over with his one hit. He was so different, even in THE year of 68 with just so many great songs, he stood out 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) :-* :y.
You probably know that he regularly set himself accidentally on fire! :D :D ;)
Think of all the carbon he burnt! ;D ;D ;D ;D
I like this offering from The summer of 'lurrrvvve' in 1967....... :-* :-* :-* :-*
https://youtu.be/IlLWITxkmW8 (https://youtu.be/IlLWITxkmW8)
I had a case of that in the eighties. :(
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Some rightly think 1967, the Summer of Love, was a good year for pop which in many ways it was with the likes of:
Penny Lane Beatles; Hole In My Shoe Traffic; Young Girl Gary Puckett and the The Union Gap; Pictures of Lily The Who and even -
The Laughing Gnome David Bowie and just a few more making us have fun............. PLUS albums which included Magical Mystery Tour The Beatles; THE VERY SIGNIFICANT St.Peppers Lonely Heart Club Band The Beatles; Disraeli Gears Cream....................
but 1968, ah 1968, FOR ME with MY collection it was Those Were The Days Mary Hopkins............... and besides Fire and This Wheels Of Fire there was:
Hey Jude Beatles; Jumpin Jack Flash The Rolling Stones; Lady Madonna Beatles: Ice In The Sun The Status Quo;
Gotta See Jane R Dean Taylor; Eloise Barry Ryan; High In The Sky Amen Corner; I Say A Little Prayer Aretha Franklin;
On The Road Again Caned Heat; Albatross Fleetwood Mac; All Along The Watchtower Jimi Hendrix Experience;
Blackberry Way The Move; With A Little Help From My Friends Joe Cocker; Classical Gas Mason Williams; Sabre Dance Love Sculpture;
MacArthur Park Richard Harris; I Heard Ut Through The Grapevine Marvin Gaye; Rainbow Valley The Love Affair;
Lilly The Pink The Scaffold; Land O 1,000 Dances Wilson Pickett; and even I'm The Urban Spaceman The Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band ;D ;D ;D
Plus Albums like The White Album The Beatles; Wheels of Fire Cream
all to dance and have fun with!!
Now, yes this is an insight into my collection of that time as a contemporary teenage girl who often copied what her friends liked; there were many more that others would select I know, but it, I think, reflects another age of us British teenagers following the charts and, seemingly, without a care for the environment, but just kids having fun.
We did not go on 'environmental protests, just supported the protests against the Vietnam War. We were I believe 'simple' and rightly childlike as the children we were, not like our poor kids of today who are bombarded with great worries about being stabbed, shot, groomed, or saving the Planet from us humans, apart from the very real threat from The Cold War which would increasingly wipe away our innocence and fill us with the dread that I think the children of today have in respect of the environment.
The children of the last war, my parents included had very real fears, then WE the baby boomers, came along had enjoyed a simple childhood, that grew fears of pending nuclear wipe out, that our children had passed on to them. Now our current young generation have very real and realistic concerns about climate warming and what humans can / may do about it.
Our songs did include protests about war, and it is interesting to note the lyrics that included the word "Fire!" as in the previous example. Does the current generation have songs protesting against the threats to the environment / the World?
Now I have rambled on a bit, as I do!! But whilst remembering past great musici prompted by the lyric "If your memory serves you well" it made me think of our simple, music filled childs lives compared to what the kids have now. Fears we are going to destroy life on Earth :D :D ;)
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"Popular" music(in its widest definition) peaked in 1968. It started to decline after that and was all but dead as a creative force by the mid 70,s.
The greatest guitar track ever recorded was from that year.
From 2.30 on is at good as it gets. Never heard anything better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYC5BcL7YtQ
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"Popular" music(in its widest definition) peaked in 1968. It started to decline after that and was all but dead as a creative force by the mid 70,s.
The greatest guitar track ever recorded was from that year.
From 2.30 on is at good as it gets. Never heard anything better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYC5BcL7YtQ
I can imagine Lizzie as a raunchy rock chick gyrating to this with plenty of cleavage on display. :D
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You need help. ;D
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You need help. ;D
I've lost count of the number of people saying exactly that. ;D ;D ;D
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"Popular" music(in its widest definition) peaked in 1968. It started to decline after that and was all but dead as a creative force by the mid 70,s.
The greatest guitar track ever recorded was from that year.
From 2.30 on is at good as it gets. Never heard anything better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYC5BcL7YtQ
Pure genius. 8)
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"Popular" music(in its widest definition) peaked in 1968. It started to decline after that and was all but dead as a creative force by the mid 70,s.
The greatest guitar track ever recorded was from that year.
From 2.30 on is at good as it gets. Never heard anything better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYC5BcL7YtQ
I totally agree with that! :y
1968 was the big year and as the Beatles and Cream left the scene I personally become a big fan of Led Zep, but after that, as you say mid 1970's, it, to me, was all crap! It certainly didn't satisfy my music needs.....Bony M for instance, FFS, that said it all!!. ::) ::) :(
Even now, and yes I am still a rock chic, will usually be found playing, at full volume in the car, Led Zeppelin (I did today going around town) or the Beatles when I want more subdued but fully creative songs. :D :D 8) 8)
Some of the 1980's music was actually ok, but nothing on a par with what we had before then :y :y
Now are we just oldish folk who say, like my parents did, modern music is not like it was, you know, Glen Miller (who actually I love listening to!), or are we only reflectIng what is true as all I see is today's youngsters just treating the music as a commodity with no emotional attachment like we did in the 1960's? ::) ::)
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"Popular" music(in its widest definition) peaked in 1968. It started to decline after that and was all but dead as a creative force by the mid 70,s.
The greatest guitar track ever recorded was from that year.
From 2.30 on is at good as it gets. Never heard anything better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYC5BcL7YtQ
Ahh, Eric at his best👍 I’m a Black Sabbath fan so you can imagine how I feel about guitar solos. Today, Joe Satriani is one of the best for that imho and just like Jimi he can’t read music either!
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I don't listen to music much or play guitar these days, but when I do listen it tends to be more mellow stuff now like Don Henley or Bob Seger.
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Yes, Bob was with that ridiculously loud Ted Nugent at one point if I remember correctly, Christ he was loud too!!