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Re: Oil Pressure lost...
« Reply #45 on: 02 April 2014, 09:37:56 »

Unbolt the torque converter from the flex plate and leave it with the gearbox - otherwise you can damage the seal and bushing where the TC nose runs in the gearbox, and this will cause fluid leakage. You might also distort the TC.

Ta. 6 more bolts to find then.
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Re: Oil Pressure lost...
« Reply #46 on: 02 April 2014, 11:17:57 »

Unbolt the torque converter from the flex plate and leave it with the gearbox - otherwise you can damage the seal and bushing where the TC nose runs in the gearbox, and this will cause fluid leakage. You might also distort the TC.

Ta. 6 more bolts to find then.

I think, on the V6, these are accessible through a rubber bung you can remove just behind the sump - i.e. central, and at the lowest point of the bellhousing facing the front of the driveplate. Once they are out, remove the rubber bung on the other side of the driveplate and prise the 2 apart to ensure the torque converter is free of the driveplate (it will move backwards towards the gearbox a little).
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Re: Oil Pressure lost...
« Reply #47 on: 02 April 2014, 21:36:52 »

I'm planning on a trip down in a couple of weeks Malc.......
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Re: Oil Pressure lost...
« Reply #48 on: 04 April 2014, 23:32:13 »

Horrrraaaayyyy, the lump is out. And the bonus is that the V6 lump fits on my Rich Brunt Straight 6 engine stand.

Started stripping it down - and learnt a few new things...

1) Most exhaust manifold studs unscrew from the head rather than releasing their nuts.
2) The dip stick tube is too close to the front stud to get the manifold off.
3) No matter how maticulous you are, there will always be even more oil and water hiding in channels within the lump waiting to splurge out on you when you least expect it.
4) The screws holding the DIS plate to the back of the head strip really easyily.
5) Your swear box is always too small no matter how big it is.

I've left the engine with the sump cover off overnight to try and drain out any last dregs of oil. Tomorrow, remove the large sump casting and inspect the mains and big ends. I may even treat you all to some photos of the carnage.
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Re: Oil Pressure lost...
« Reply #49 on: 05 April 2014, 09:06:10 »

While your lump is out, can you do me a favour and see how the dipstick tube is held in?  There is one bolt that holds the top to head, but how is it held at bottom?
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Re: Oil Pressure lost...
« Reply #50 on: 05 April 2014, 11:50:09 »

While your lump is out, can you do me a favour and see how the dipstick tube is held in?  There is one bolt that holds the top to head, but how is it held at bottom?
Had a look yesterday whilst trying to get the exhaust manifold off. One bolt at the top - the same one that holds the lifting eye. I think the bottom end is just a push fit through the hole in the block with an O ring to seal. I'll have a look to see if any sealant/bond is involved.
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Re: Oil Pressure lost...
« Reply #51 on: 05 April 2014, 14:37:14 »

My money is on at least one O ring, given how it turns easily enough...
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Re: Oil Pressure lost...
« Reply #52 on: 05 April 2014, 18:49:32 »

Ok, some mucky photos of the old girl for you to drool over  :)

First up, where the donkey lives...





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Re: Oil Pressure lost...
« Reply #53 on: 05 April 2014, 18:58:45 »

Next some engine on a stand pictures, for reference.








And a view of the dip-stick tube for TheBoy

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Re: Oil Pressure lost...
« Reply #54 on: 05 April 2014, 19:11:43 »

So off with the cam covers, and a peek inside





Nothing too horific - cam lobes worn on the tips, but it is a 210K mile engine. Then whilst trying to remove the oil cooler from the channel I spotted an optional extra fitted to the engine.



See It? An extra inlet manifold bridge bolt jammed in under the head. Anyway - extracted it and then removed the oil cooler unions at in the channel, and then went to the other end..



Managed to get one of the pipes undone - but I can't get in to the rear one with a spanner. So abandoned that idea for now and continued with something else.
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Re: Oil Pressure lost...
« Reply #55 on: 05 April 2014, 19:29:29 »

So next step, lift all the cam caps one by one to see what they look like. The cam caps look Ok to me...





However, the camshaft bearing surfaces I'm not so sure about.









The all look dull, with a mottled grey appearance, rather than polished and uniform. Not sure what to make of it. Anyway, worry about it later, apply some graphogen and bolt it all back together snugly.

Bottom end pictures to follow, after tea - Chicken Rogan Josh with boiled rice, naan bread and Onion Bajhees, all washed down with a bottle of Rioja.
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Re: Oil Pressure lost...
« Reply #56 on: 05 April 2014, 19:40:19 »

So next step, lift all the cam caps one by one to see what they look like. The cam caps look Ok to me...

However, the camshaft bearing surfaces I'm not so sure about.

The all look dull, with a mottled grey appearance, rather than polished and uniform. Not sure what to make of it. Anyway, worry about it later, apply some graphogen and bolt it all back together snugly.

Bottom end pictures to follow, after tea - Chicken Rogan Josh with boiled rice, naan bread and Onion Bajhees, all washed down with a bottle of Rioja.
How does the "fingernail test" feel?
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Re: Oil Pressure lost...
« Reply #57 on: 05 April 2014, 20:46:38 »

How does the "fingernail test" feel?

If you mean did they feel scored/pitted, then no they didn't. However, not sure it's relavent. I'm waiting till after the 9 O'Clock watershead to post up the bottom end x-rated horror show :-[
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Re: Oil Pressure lost...
« Reply #58 on: 05 April 2014, 21:10:26 »

Great pictures , thanks for posting  :y
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Re: Oil Pressure lost...
« Reply #59 on: 05 April 2014, 21:37:54 »

Spin the engine over, and with the sump cover removed you are greeted by the following.



A closer view of the offending pick up strainer.



Undo all the upper sump to block retaining bolts, and after a few light taps with a rubber mallet the sump comes away to reveal...



So 2Woody wins the "guess where the bolt in the sump came from" competition...



Remove the sump baffle to reveal the bottom end strengthenign ladder



Still nothing too alarming. Undo all the remaining bolts on the ladder and lift it off.
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