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Changing water pump without changing cam belt
« on: 11 June 2015, 18:11:18 »

Ok, so I got it wrong  :-[

Cam belt on my car sounds fine without aux belt. Changed aux belt and pulley today but the noise is coming from the water pump. Got loooooads of play.

Is there a way to ensure the water pump comes off without getting it on the cam belt or realistically shall I just stick a new kit on?

Current cam belt kit was put on under two years ago and has ten thousand miles on.
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Re: Changing water pump without changing cam belt
« Reply #1 on: 11 June 2015, 18:22:00 »

stick a pump on steve, i wouldnt change the kit just for the sake of it tbh.  :)
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Re: Changing water pump without changing cam belt
« Reply #2 on: 11 June 2015, 18:23:48 »

Thanks Jon.

Any tips for keeping the coolant off the belt? Bunch of rags I spose  :-\
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Re: Changing water pump without changing cam belt
« Reply #3 on: 11 June 2015, 18:26:13 »

pretty much, yes. cant really avoid it tbh.  ;)
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Re: Changing water pump without changing cam belt
« Reply #4 on: 11 June 2015, 18:27:47 »

Ok thanks mate  :y

One last question. . .

Can get an aftermarket pump for twenty to twenty five notes from work. Are vx pumps still stupid expensive?
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Re: Changing water pump without changing cam belt
« Reply #5 on: 11 June 2015, 18:30:28 »

I use cling film over the belt and crank pulley. Then cover it in clothes. As you always get bits dropping out and you don't want them in your belt.
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Re: Changing water pump without changing cam belt
« Reply #6 on: 11 June 2015, 18:31:20 »

I use cling film over the belt and crank pulley. Then cover it in clothes. As you always get bits dropping out and you don't want them in your belt.

That my son is an excellent idea!!!!  :y
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Re: Changing water pump without changing cam belt
« Reply #7 on: 11 June 2015, 18:32:36 »

Water won't harm the belt at all.

I would go for a reputable pattern part. :y
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Re: Changing water pump without changing cam belt
« Reply #8 on: 11 June 2015, 18:33:26 »

Water won't harm the belt at all.

I would go for a reputable pattern part. :y

Thanks kev.

I thought coolant was bad for the belt tho  :-\
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Re: Changing water pump without changing cam belt
« Reply #9 on: 11 June 2015, 18:35:54 »

Yes the wife wasn't best impressed when a few days later,  'Have you seen the cling film?' to which  :-X


Kevin, it's not the water, it's alloy bits, coolant deposits and general crud. If it drops on the crank pulley or rests on a tooth on the belt (on the downward side) it gets embedded into the belt. I've seen this once, the belt wasn't old but had to be replaced.

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Re: Changing water pump without changing cam belt
« Reply #10 on: 12 June 2015, 08:24:42 »

Mr webby i have two that are smp ones which I believe are made by skf which are for sale if your interested. :y
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Re: Changing water pump without changing cam belt
« Reply #11 on: 12 June 2015, 08:39:26 »

Thanks Jon.

Any tips for keeping the coolant off the belt? Bunch of rags I spose  :-\

I've done it - you wont stop the coolant getting everywhere. Rinse well with clean fresh water after and run the engine immediately until it all dry if what I did and all ok  :y
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Re: Changing water pump without changing cam belt
« Reply #12 on: 12 June 2015, 19:43:08 »

Thanks guys  :y

Ordered a pump from work today. £23. By bga. Or summat like that. Will prob do it next week.
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Re: Changing water pump without changing cam belt
« Reply #13 on: 13 June 2015, 08:37:42 »

Sorry, late to this. I made a guide out of a bit of flexible plastic which I gaffer taped to block under pump, just to throw the coolant clear of belt/pulley.

Any branded pattern part for the pump should be fine, as the GM pumps are a bit silly pricewise.  Be prepared to cut down the pulley bolts, as with most pattern, they foul.

Obviously clean up the block before refit to give the seal a chance to work.
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Re: Changing water pump without changing cam belt
« Reply #14 on: 13 June 2015, 12:54:49 »

Cheers TB.

I think the cling film, rags and brake cleaner followed by a dose of compressed air to dry will do the trick  :y

Cheers for the note about the pulley bolts  :y are you saying that they're too long, stick out the back of the part of the pump that spins and catch on the pump body?
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