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Jack Pad Adaptors
« on: 12 September 2016, 12:14:39 »

On the VW and many new cars I noticed, there is no huge nice big area to jack the car up, unlike the Omega. They all have the rail, which the normal scissor jack slots into, not good for DIY jobs.

So after research found these:

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-assembled-by-ecs-parts/jack-pad-adapter-kit/ecs10724kt/

You remove a gromit underneath the car, you assemble the two parts and essentially press them into the chassis. It's a one time fit, that then provides an easy place to jack the car.

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMS2fUDiWhU [Keep watching till at least 2 mins, shows them being fitted]

Further research has mixed views, some say all great, others say the car should not be lifted on a single side, that these should only be used on 4 post lifts.

Thoughts?
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Re: Jack Pad Adaptors
« Reply #1 on: 12 September 2016, 12:16:06 »

It must still have chassis jacking points, as garages aren't going to piss around on their 4 post lifts.
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Re: Jack Pad Adaptors
« Reply #2 on: 12 September 2016, 12:24:55 »

Well struggling to see them other than rail point, the forums suggest no decent place.  :-\

Perhaps I should call in WIM later in the week, as I'm going past, ask if they can get it in the air and if they could advise.
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Re: Jack Pad Adaptors
« Reply #3 on: 12 September 2016, 12:26:57 »

I think you need to try better forums...

...though I know I'm struggling to find decent sources of information on other brands  :'(
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Re: Jack Pad Adaptors
« Reply #4 on: 12 September 2016, 12:34:18 »

I think you need to try better forums...

...though I know I'm struggling to find decent sources of information on other brands  :'(

Hence me posting here, but I've tried quite a few. VWVortex, VWForumUK plus a few others.

Some say to Jack on suspension components, for the rear.  :-\
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Re: Jack Pad Adaptors
« Reply #5 on: 12 September 2016, 12:35:58 »

I think you need to try better forums...

...though I know I'm struggling to find decent sources of information on other brands  :'(

Hence me posting here, but I've tried quite a few. VWVortex, VWForumUK plus a few others.

Some say to Jack on suspension components, for the rear.  :-\
Which would make any work on said suspension "challenging".
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Re: Jack Pad Adaptors
« Reply #6 on: 12 September 2016, 12:36:50 »

Can see lift points here...

https://carmanuals2.com/get/volkswagen-cc-2014-lift-points-for-the-vehicle-35322

It is just the rail, where the emergency scissor one is used. I'm concerned a lot of use here will damage it, hence those adaptor kits look good.

Or I need to get a grooved head thing for the jack itself, not sure  :-\
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Re: Jack Pad Adaptors
« Reply #7 on: 12 September 2016, 12:41:34 »

As said, ask at your local VW specialist.
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Re: Jack Pad Adaptors
« Reply #8 on: 12 September 2016, 12:48:56 »

So some oppswit designed, and you bought, a mass-market saloon car that can't be jacked without specialist equipment?

Take it back and get a bus pass, as neither of you can be trusted.
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Re: Jack Pad Adaptors
« Reply #9 on: 12 September 2016, 12:53:28 »

So some oppswit designed, and you bought, a mass-market saloon car that can't be jacked without specialist equipment?

Take it back and get a bus pass, as neither of you can be trusted.

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Re: Jack Pad Adaptors
« Reply #10 on: 12 September 2016, 12:54:58 »

So some oppswit designed, and you bought, a mass-market saloon car that can't be jacked without specialist equipment?

Take it back and get a bus pass, as neither of you can be trusted.

As with any modern car, the home DIY is not thought about. It can be jacked normally with what I have in the garage, but I want to avoid damage by doing it often. Hence searching for a better at home method. 

But thanks for the useful input into the thread  ::)
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Re: Jack Pad Adaptors
« Reply #11 on: 12 September 2016, 13:04:17 »

Loads of them on ebay Tunnie and significantly cheaper than the ones you've linked to!  ;)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l2632.R2.TR9.TRC2.A0.H0.Xjack+pad.TRS0&_nkw=jack+pad&_sacat=180124

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Re: Jack Pad Adaptors
« Reply #12 on: 12 September 2016, 13:12:03 »

Loads of them on ebay Tunnie and significantly cheaper than the ones you've linked to!  ;)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l2632.R2.TR9.TRC2.A0.H0.Xjack+pad.TRS0&_nkw=jack+pad&_sacat=180124

Yeah I'm thinking one of these is best route, if you look at the ECS link they attach to the car itself and remain there. But one of these squashy pads should do the job.

I just don't want to dent the underneath of my lovely new car  ;D
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Re: Jack Pad Adaptors
« Reply #13 on: 12 September 2016, 14:00:10 »

So some oppswit designed, and you bought, a mass-market saloon car that can't be jacked without specialist equipment?

Take it back and get a bus pass, as neither of you can be trusted.

As with any modern car, the home DIY is not thought about. It can be jacked normally with what I have in the garage, but I want to avoid damage by doing it often. Hence searching for a better at home method. 



That is NOT what you wrote. And as for spending £100 on rubber bungs that should have been there when it was assembled,there's one born everyday.


Do you have tools? Cut a wooden disc that protrudes slightly from the cup of your jack, and glue a piece of old rubber mat or mudflap to it. That will take less time than writing any of the posts about the 'problem'
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Re: Jack Pad Adaptors
« Reply #14 on: 12 September 2016, 14:14:19 »

So some oppswit designed, and you bought, a mass-market saloon car that can't be jacked without specialist equipment?

Take it back and get a bus pass, as neither of you can be trusted.

As with any modern car, the home DIY is not thought about. It can be jacked normally with what I have in the garage, but I want to avoid damage by doing it often. Hence searching for a better at home method. 



That is NOT what you wrote. And as for spending £100 on rubber bungs that should have been there when it was assembled,there's one born everyday.


Do you have tools? Cut a wooden disc that protrudes slightly from the cup of your jack, and glue a piece of old rubber mat or mudflap to it. That will take less time than writing any of the posts about the 'problem'

Yes it is? I said there is no big area, there is not, just the thin rail and scissor jack is not great.

When they assemble it, they never think about the DIY'er

But yes, I'm also looking at soft rubber pads for the jack I have now, to soften how it lifts the car.

See here:

http://www.passatworld.com/forums/volkswagen-passat-b6-discussion/307114-jack-stand-placement.html

The area used for the big jack, is just that thin strip.
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