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V6 locking tool?
« on: 17 February 2010, 21:37:48 »

Will that do the job?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330239930555

I also would like to know if there is a key for tightening the tensioner? If not, what would be the best tool for it?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: V6 locking tool?
« Reply #1 on: 17 February 2010, 21:51:31 »

Thats the right bit of kit .. but the advert does not say who it is made by ....  there was one brand that was noted for having problems  but I can't for the life of me remember the name....  :(

Something like laser ?????  but I could well be wrong.

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Re: V6 locking tool?
« Reply #2 on: 17 February 2010, 21:53:41 »

Thanks, what about the tool for the tensioner?
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Re: V6 locking tool?
« Reply #3 on: 17 February 2010, 21:59:34 »

Laser were the brand that were a little dodgy. About 2 years ago there was a batch of ones that didn't fit. Maybe ancient history by now.

The tensioner is adjusted with an allen key and a spanner. No rocket science there. It's getting everything precisely lined up first that requires all the bits in the kit. :y

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Re: V6 locking tool?
« Reply #4 on: 17 February 2010, 22:01:13 »

You'll need a 30mm offset ring spanner and an E20 torx socket along with other commonplace tools in addition.

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Re: V6 locking tool?
« Reply #5 on: 17 February 2010, 22:08:55 »

I meant the actual tensioner, not the pulleys as I've got that already ;)

I have the alan key size 5mm, but last time i did that it was really hard to adjust it. That's why I'm asking if there was anything special.

BTW, the guy who's selling the kit says that it is made by laser.

edit: What was the specific problem with laser tools?
« Last Edit: 17 February 2010, 22:20:42 by zYx »
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Re: V6 locking tool?
« Reply #6 on: 17 February 2010, 22:41:09 »

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I meant the actual tensioner, not the pulleys as I've got that already ;)

I have the alan key size 5mm, but last time i did that it was really hard to adjust it. That's why I'm asking if there was anything special.

BTW, the guy who's selling the kit says that it is made by laser.

edit: What was the specific problem with laser tools?
The laser crank locking tool wasn't clamping round the water pump properly.

I am a bit puzzled as to why you had trouble rotating the spring loaded tensioner :-/

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Re: V6 locking tool?
« Reply #7 on: 17 February 2010, 22:48:55 »

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I meant the actual tensioner, not the pulleys as I've got that already ;)

I have the alan key size 5mm, but last time i did that it was really hard to adjust it. That's why I'm asking if there was anything special.

BTW, the guy who's selling the kit says that it is made by laser.

edit: What was the specific problem with laser tools?
The laser crank locking tool wasn't clamping round the water pump properly.

I am a bit puzzled as to why you had trouble rotating the spring loaded tensioner :-/

It was just hard and the alan key was too small and it was bending as I was adjusting the tensioner :/

I found this:

http://www.sealey.co.uk/PLPageBuilder.asp?gotonode=ViewProduct&method=mViewProduct&productid=8781

and this

http://www.sealey.co.uk/PLPageBuilder.asp?pageindex=1&gotonode=DoProductSearch&method=mProductSearch&IndividualTypeID=&productdescription=VSE130&fulltextsearch=&category=0&cmdGo=Go%21

and I can't see the difference except description and price :]
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Re: V6 locking tool?
« Reply #8 on: 17 February 2010, 22:49:05 »

I'm thinking about getting the cheaper one of these Sealey tools (VSE130, the second link).

Has anyone got experience of the sealey tools?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Ddiy&field-keywords=jack+sealey+vs130&x=0&y=0

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Ddiy&field-keywords=Jack+Sealey+vse130&x=0&y=0
[edit]Oops, must type faster ::)[/edit]
« Last Edit: 17 February 2010, 22:52:21 by andyh »
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Re: V6 locking tool?
« Reply #9 on: 17 February 2010, 22:50:20 »

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I have the alan key size 5mm, but last time i did that it was really hard to adjust it. That's why I'm asking if there was anything special.

If the belt is correctly timed, it's just a matter of winding the tensioner round with the allen key until the spring tension is correct, when the markings are the correct distance apart. Then just nip up the clamp bolt with a spanner and set the correct torque.

If the belt is not correctly timed there can sometimes be too much or too little slack at that part of the belt and that's when problems occur.

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Re: V6 locking tool?
« Reply #10 on: 17 February 2010, 23:10:41 »

i have a laser v6 locking kit mines is ok timing guage is a bit tight but still goes in crank locking tool is a snug fit hope this helps :y
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Re: V6 locking tool?
« Reply #11 on: 17 February 2010, 23:23:34 »

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I'm thinking about getting the cheaper one of these Sealey tools (VSE130, the second link).

Has anyone got experience of the sealey tools?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Ddiy&field-keywords=jack+sealey+vs130&x=0&y=0

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Ddiy&field-keywords=Jack+Sealey+vse130&x=0&y=0
[edit]Oops, must type faster ::)[/edit]
Yeah, that was unexpected :D


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I have the alan key size 5mm, but last time i did that it was really hard to adjust it. That's why I'm asking if there was anything special.

If the belt is correctly timed, it's just a matter of winding the tensioner round with the allen key until the spring tension is correct, when the markings are the correct distance apart. Then just nip up the clamp bolt with a spanner and set the correct torque.

If the belt is not correctly timed there can sometimes be too much or too little slack at that part of the belt and that's when problems occur.

Kevin
First time when I was adjusting it I had a cheap black steel allen keys and it just cracked... second time I bought a bit more expensive chrome vanadium allen keys and they did the job, but it was still really hard. I would expect that the hole for this allen key would be bit bigger, like 6,7,8mm :)


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i have a laser v6 locking kit mines is ok timing guage is a bit tight but still goes in crank locking tool is a snug fit hope this helps :y
Thanks for your opinion  :)
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Re: V6 locking tool?
« Reply #12 on: 17 February 2010, 23:30:26 »

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First time when I was adjusting it I had a cheap black steel allen keys and it just cracked... second time I bought a bit more expensive chrome vanadium allen keys and they did the job, but it was still really hard. I would expect that the hole for this allen key would be bit bigger, like 6,7,8mm

You did loosen the clamp nut first? With that loosened up it is easy to rotate with a small allen key. More importantly, you did torque it up afterwards?

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Re: V6 locking tool?
« Reply #13 on: 17 February 2010, 23:45:20 »

Off course I did that :)
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Re: V6 locking tool?
« Reply #14 on: 18 February 2010, 08:27:08 »

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I meant the actual tensioner, not the pulleys as I've got that already ;)

I have the alan key size 5mm, but last time i did that it was really hard to adjust it. That's why I'm asking if there was anything special.

BTW, the guy who's selling the kit says that it is made by laser.

edit: What was the specific problem with laser tools?
The laser crank locking tool wasn't clamping round the water pump properly.

I am a bit puzzled as to why you had trouble rotating the spring loaded tensioner :-/

It was just hard and the alan key was too small and it was bending as I was adjusting the tensioner :/

I found this:

http://www.sealey.co.uk/PLPageBuilder.asp?gotonode=ViewProduct&method=mViewProduct&productid=8781

and this

http://www.sealey.co.uk/PLPageBuilder.asp?pageindex=1&gotonode=DoProductSearch&method=mProductSearch&IndividualTypeID=&productdescription=VSE130&fulltextsearch=&category=0&cmdGo=Go%21

and I can't see the difference except description and price :]
If your bending a 5mm allen key tensioning the tensioner then theres something seriously wrong.
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