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Engine fails to start omega 2,6v6
« on: 16 May 2014, 20:27:02 »

Hi guys.
Yesterday when I wanted to go home from work my Omega didn't want to start... ??? It startet for two secunds then died, and did not start again.
So I walked home to get some tools, and my other Omega. When I came back I tryed to start the engine again... and wonders of all wonders, it started perfectly.. so I drove it home and walked back to get my other omega. Then this morning when I tried to start the V6 it would not start... I can't figure out what is wrong with it. There are no fault codes... It seems like the immobilizer is active... ??? I tested the fuelpump reley and it is ok, but do not click in when I try to start the engine...I have new bateries in the key. And there are plenty of fuel in the tank.  Does anybody have any idea of what can cause this symptoms.... :(

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Re: Engine fails to start omega 2,6v6
« Reply #1 on: 16 May 2014, 20:36:56 »

Classic symptoms of failing crank sensor
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Re: Engine fails to start omega 2,6v6
« Reply #2 on: 16 May 2014, 20:37:16 »

without a doubt it will be the crankshaft sensor
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Re: Engine fails to start omega 2,6v6
« Reply #3 on: 16 May 2014, 20:41:52 »

yup, crank sensor, genuine GM only for these  :y
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Re: Engine fails to start omega 2,6v6
« Reply #4 on: 16 May 2014, 20:55:17 »

Seems like you all agree that it is the crank sensor..
Are there any way I can test the sensor before buying a new one?

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Re: Engine fails to start omega 2,6v6
« Reply #5 on: 16 May 2014, 21:49:22 »

You can't test them, your description is exactly right symptoms of one failing  :y
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Re: Engine fails to start omega 2,6v6
« Reply #6 on: 24 May 2014, 20:59:32 »

I got a new camshaftsensor.
Full of hope I installed it
Then I tryed to start the engine.... nothing.. it would't start at all... :(
What is wrong whit my dear Omega????
Still no fault codes...
The sensor is geunuine GM made by BOCH, exactly same itemnumber as the old one..
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Re: Engine fails to start omega 2,6v6
« Reply #7 on: 24 May 2014, 21:37:34 »

Seems like you all agree that it is the crank sensor..
Are there any way I can test the sensor before buying a new one?

Petter

I got a new camshaftsensor.
Full of hope I installed it
Then I tryed to start the engine.... nothing.. it would't start at all... :(
What is wrong whit my dear Omega????
Still no fault codes...
The sensor is geunuine GM made by BOCH, exactly same itemnumber as the old one..
Petter frm Norway

Crank sensor (CPS). Sits low down at the back of the engine behind the oil filter.

Cam sensor - fits high up at the front of the engine.

Which did you change? it is the crank sensor (CPS) that needed changing :-\
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Re: Engine fails to start omega 2,6v6
« Reply #8 on: 24 May 2014, 21:50:56 »

Seems like you all agree that it is the crank sensor..
Are there any way I can test the sensor before buying a new one?

Petter

I got a new camshaftsensor.
Full of hope I installed it


Then I tryed to start the engine.... nothing.. it would't start at all... :(
What is wrong whit my dear Omega????
Still no fault codes...
The sensor is geunuine GM made by BOCH, exactly same itemnumber as the old one..
Petter frm Norway

Crank sensor (CPS). Sits low down at the back of the engine behind the oil filter.

Cam sensor - fits high up at the front of the engine.

Which did you change? it is the crank sensor (CPS) that needed changing :-\


oh.. sorry my mistake

Crank Sensor.. the one next to oilfilter.

Also talked to the opel garage and they also said it is the Crank Sensor

So I was quite disapointed when the car didn't start after changing it.

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Re: Engine fails to start omega 2,6v6
« Reply #9 on: 24 May 2014, 22:20:04 »

Had one last year ob a 2.6 brand new Crank Sensor fittec, but wouldn't start untill the ECU Codes where cleared.  :-\
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Re: Engine fails to start omega 2,6v6
« Reply #10 on: 24 May 2014, 22:33:28 »

Had one last year ob a 2.6 brand new Crank Sensor fittec, but wouldn't start untill the ECU Codes where cleared.  :-\

Ok thanks!
 so  I will try to diskonect the batery over night and have a try again tomorrow.. ???
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Re: Engine fails to start omega 2,6v6
« Reply #11 on: 25 May 2014, 08:14:18 »

Always remember just because a part is new. Does not guarantee it is not faulty

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Re: Engine fails to start omega 2,6v6
« Reply #12 on: 25 May 2014, 08:41:47 »

Can you hear the fuel pump prime when turning on the ignition?
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Re: Engine fails to start omega 2,6v6
« Reply #13 on: 25 May 2014, 09:56:11 »

Can you hear the fuel pump prime when turning on the ignition?

No nothing, and the fuel relee doesn't clikk inn, so no power to the fuelpump.  :'(

 By the way...I disconected the battery last evening and left it over night to reset ECU, but still the engine would not start..
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Re: Engine fails to start omega 2,6v6
« Reply #14 on: 25 May 2014, 12:30:00 »

Can you hear the fuel pump prime when turning on the ignition?

No nothing, and the fuel relee doesn't clikk inn, so no power to the fuelpump.  :'(

 By the way...I disconected the battery last evening and left it over night to reset ECU, but still the engine would not start..
Should hear (or feel) the Fuel Relay (one of the Purple ones) and the Throttle Body click on, with the first time with Ing key on. This is controled from the ECU from memory.

I had issues in the past with 2.6 and 3.2 refusing to start, especially when they have been stood for a while.

Check the following -
Good Battery Volts, specially when turning the engine over.
Good battery volts at the Purple relays.
Check the Earth strap on the ECU housing, if poss check any voltage difference between the ECU Earth point and the Battery Neg (0v), with a voltmeter, or use a jump lead between the ECU Earth and or Ov Chassis and Battery Neg.

Transponder Issues?, Cheek the chips are present in the Keys, another Key?, pull off, check and reconnect the blue Connecter of the Transponder module under the Ing Barrel.

Sometimes with Transponder issues, or when you have pulled things apart, you have to go though a recycle, so try this a couple of time in between attempted starting. Key out Ing., open drivers Door, close Door, lock, unlock, open door, close door, Key back in Ing to start.

Chris.

Edit, forgot to ask, any codes present, with a reader or peddle trick, any flashing EML or Spanner light with just the Ing on, any unusual clicking with the Ing on?


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