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[Andy A]

Anyone used both or either the Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance and or the Uniroyal Rainsport 3 and what is your opinion on them?

I want to know what tyre is best suited to the Omega 2.2 225/55/R16.

Thanks

[Doctor Gollum]

Don't bother with the Efficientgrip on the Omega. Low temp/wet grip is shockingly poor. Spend the extra few quid and get the Assym2s.

[Shackeng]

Anyone used both or either the Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance and or the Uniroyal Rainsport 3 and what is your opinion on them?

I want to know what tyre is best suited to the Omega 2.2 225/55/R16.

Thanks

Fitted a pair of these on the front of the TD estate a couple of months ago replacing Enduro 926's which were poor and tracked badly. Very impressed with the Rainsport's so far.

[Andy A]

Just wiating for the tyres place to get back to me with a price for the Assym2s fully fitted.

I know I can get the 4X Uniroyal RainSport 3 225/55 R16 99Y XL fully fitted for £343.80

[Doctor Gollum]

Thinking about it, don't think they're available in 16"

Avon ZV7s rate as well as Uniroyals and a bit cheaper... considering these for the 525 if I have it long enough to fit a set of non winter tyres...

[Andy A]

Thinking about it, don't think they're available in 16"

Avon ZV7s rate as well as Uniroyals and a bit cheaper... considering these for the 525 if I have it long enough to fit a set of non winter tyres...

Had a look on the review web site and they do list a 16". 

[iansoutham]

I have just taken a set of Goodyear Assym2 tyres off my MFL 2.0 Estate with 225/55R16 size.

They had around 4mm of tread left and up until about 4.5mm they were fine. If provoked, the front would let go on a corner and then it simply slid until it could find traction. Less than 4.5mm I found that the back end would light up if moving off smartly from a side road and would get skittish in the wet a little earlier than before.

I have just fitted a set of Bridgestone RE0002 Adrenalin tyres and they really work well. I have them on 2 of my other cars and they just grip in the wet.

I also had previously a set of Dunlop SP Sport 01 and they were nice, but wore the edges (even though tracked up from WIM) and were also lousy in the cold (near freezing) weather and a set of Goodyear EfficentGrips which I had no issues with.

[jb]

Have efficent grips on an 3.2 omega and a volvo s80 2.5t. Both 16" w rated tyres. Good all round tyre for grip and wear.

[Doctor Gollum]

Had Efficientgrips on an explod... nearly crashed at the end of the road trying to stop at the give way one chilly morning... turned round and swapped the wheels from tother car just to get to work...

[DrAndyB]

Uniroyal Rainsport 3s are (or certainly were !) available in 225/55R16 as i have them fitted.  See post and a few pics of the old girl below.

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=138561.msg1785340#msg1785340

Very happy with them 

[Doctor Gollum]

Was reffering to the potential availability of the Goodyear assym2s in 16"

[DrAndyB]

Was reffering to the potential availability of the Goodyear assym2s in 16"

  phew . That's ok then.

[biggriffin]

Go to tyre company, buy what you can afford, drink free tea or coffee while you wait.

[Andy A]

Uniroyal Rainsport 3s are (or certainly were !) available in 225/55R16 as i have them fitted.  See post and a few pics of the old girl below.

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=138561.msg1785340#msg1785340

Very happy with them 

Did you fit the XL version?

Heard that the side walls are very soft and the XL has thicker side walls. Don't know if this is true or not..

[Doctor Gollum]

Very true and we'll recommended if you have an estate... Given the state of the roads, prudent on the saloon too...

[Andy A]

So it looks like its between the Uniroyal Rainsport 3 and the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2.

DrAndyB, nice Omega.    I always did like the smoothness from the 2.5 V6 over the 2.6. Wish I would have kept mine. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

[tunnie]

So it looks like its between the Uniroyal Rainsport 3 and the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2.

DrAndyB, nice Omega.    I always did like the smoothness from the 2.5 V6 over the 2.6. Wish I would have kept mine. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Personally I'd avoid these 

I found them quite poor.

[Entwood]

So it looks like its between the Uniroyal Rainsport 3 and the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2.

DrAndyB, nice Omega.    I always did like the smoothness from the 2.5 V6 over the 2.6. Wish I would have kept mine. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

You will probably struggle to find these now, I certainly did and ended up with Michelin PS3, so far no problems with them at all.

[johnnydog]

So it looks like its between the Uniroyal Rainsport 3 and the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2.

I had a set of these Goodyears Eagle F1's and I found they cracked around the tread grooves after they were about half worn like Dunlops were renown for. But as the are part of the same family, then I guess they probably have similar compounds.
I too have a set of Michelin PS3's on one Omega and now a set of PS4's (which were cheaper to buy at approx £88 each fitted) on another. Can't fault either set; probably the best tyres I have had, but then I am a Michelin fan.

[biggriffin]

So it looks like its between the Uniroyal Rainsport 3 and the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2.

I had a set of these Goodyears Eagle F1's and I found they cracked around the tread grooves after they were about half worn like Dunlops were renown for. But as the are part of the same family, then I guess they probably have similar compounds.
I too have a set of Michelin PS3's on one Omega and now a set of PS4's (which were cheaper to buy at approx £88 each fitted) on another. Can't fault either set; probably the best tyres I have had, but then I am a Michelin fan.

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EACH!!!!!, I would want at least two tyres at that price, with change.

[TheBoy]

So it looks like its between the Uniroyal Rainsport 3 and the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2.

DrAndyB, nice Omega.    I always did like the smoothness from the 2.5 V6 over the 2.6. Wish I would have kept mine. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Personally I'd avoid these 

I found them quite poor.

You had only worn ones, so thats probably unfair on them .  You wait til your RT's get to about 4mm

Though I can't recommend GY F1's either on an Omega. Mediocre tyre (with reliability concerns) at premium prices

[TheBoy]

So it looks like its between the Uniroyal Rainsport 3 and the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2.

I had a set of these Goodyears Eagle F1's and I found they cracked around the tread grooves after they were about half worn like Dunlops were renown for. But as the are part of the same family, then I guess they probably have similar compounds.
I too have a set of Michelin PS3's on one Omega and now a set of PS4's (which were cheaper to buy at approx £88 each fitted) on another. Can't fault either set; probably the best tyres I have had, but then I am a Michelin fan.

,

EACH!!!!!, I would want at least two tyres at that price, with change.

Some people prefer some grip

[tunnie]

So it looks like its between the Uniroyal Rainsport 3 and the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2.

DrAndyB, nice Omega.    I always did like the smoothness from the 2.5 V6 over the 2.6. Wish I would have kept mine. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Personally I'd avoid these 

I found them quite poor.

You had only worn ones, so thats probably unfair on them .  You wait til your RT's get to about 4mm

Though I can't recommend GY F1's either on an Omega. Mediocre tyre (with reliability concerns) at premium prices

True. But my opinion on Kuhmo's remains unchanged, from new down to barely legal. (Good tyre with low noise and good grip for my style)

[TheBoy]

So it looks like its between the Uniroyal Rainsport 3 and the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2.

DrAndyB, nice Omega.    I always did like the smoothness from the 2.5 V6 over the 2.6. Wish I would have kept mine. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Personally I'd avoid these 

I found them quite poor.

You had only worn ones, so thats probably unfair on them .  You wait til your RT's get to about 4mm

Though I can't recommend GY F1's either on an Omega. Mediocre tyre (with reliability concerns) at premium prices

True. But my opinion on Kuhmo's remains unchanged, from new down to barely legal. (Good tyre with low noise and good grip for my style)

Some tyres do maintain grip. The SportMaxx TT (probably the best tyre ever for the Omega) for example, from 9mm to about 0.5mm, they hung on...  ...hence not noticing the state they were in  .

GY F1 do NOT fit into that camp. Nor do RTs. Not used RT2s yet, as something happened partway through RT production to make them worse - my first set were good, next set were not as good . Plus wear rate is high - too high for the performance levels out of the later RTs.

[Viral_Jim]

So it looks like its between the Uniroyal Rainsport 3 and the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2.

DrAndyB, nice Omega.    I always did like the smoothness from the 2.5 V6 over the 2.6. Wish I would have kept mine. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I've had a few pairs of these over the years on the 9-5 aeros I've owned and always found them to be excellent VFM for the performance they give in wet and dry conditions. Would definitely recommend.

[peter the butcher]

As  a fellow member has often said on a non motoring website,,,,,, buy the most expensive item, a set of tyres in this case, and you have bragging rites lol, regardless of what us poor "lesser mortals" can afford. Just drive sensibly, allowing for the road conditions, and a "budget tyre, will be just as good nearly, as a "super duper, VERY expensive" brand 

[omega2018]

As  a fellow member has often said on a non motoring website,,,,,, buy the most expensive item, a set of tyres in this case, and you have bragging rites lol, regardless of what us poor "lesser mortals" can afford. Just drive sensibly, allowing for the road conditions, and a "budget tyre, will be just as good nearly, as a "super duper, VERY expensive" brand 

yep iirc wet grip rated C is only about 7% more total stopping distance in the wet than top rated A.

in the dry an old bald tyre will stop you quickest.

[johnnydog]

So it looks like its between the Uniroyal Rainsport 3 and the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2.

I had a set of these Goodyears Eagle F1's and I found they cracked around the tread grooves after they were about half worn like Dunlops were renown for. But as the are part of the same family, then I guess they probably have similar compounds.
I too have a set of Michelin PS3's on one Omega and now a set of PS4's (which were cheaper to buy at approx £88 each fitted) on another. Can't fault either set; probably the best tyres I have had, but then I am a Michelin fan.

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EACH!!!!!, I would want at least two tyres at that price, with change.

Woosungs or Nankangs are good value if you like skitting all over the road, turning up the radio above the tyre noise, and reading who made the number plate on the car in front if you do manage to come to a stop. The change you get when you bought two would go a little way to repairing the damage, I guess....!

[TheBoy]

As  a fellow member has often said on a non motoring website,,,,,, buy the most expensive item, a set of tyres in this case, and you have bragging rites lol, regardless of what us poor "lesser mortals" can afford. Just drive sensibly, allowing for the road conditions, and a "budget tyre, will be just as good nearly, as a "super duper, VERY expensive" brand 

yep iirc wet grip rated C is only about 7% more total stopping distance in the wet than top rated A.

in the dry an old bald tyre will stop you quickest.

I can tell you that 2 different wet grip A rated tyres have a huge variance in stopping distance from speed. Take the GY Eagle F1 Assym 2 for example, an A rated wet tyre, takes about 75m more than what the previous Dunlop SportMaxx RT, another A rated wet, does in the wet, from high speed.

The euro type labelling is a joke I'm afraid.  As is CLEARLY demonstrated by the Autogrip F105 - a C rated wet grip tyre.  As *anyone* who has driven an Autogrip F105 in mildly damp conditions will confirm, they are completely lethal.

[Doctor Gollum]

Well they would if they weren't dead...

[Nick W]

As  a fellow member has often said on a non motoring website,,,,,, buy the most expensive item, a set of tyres in this case, and you have bragging rites lol, regardless of what us poor "lesser mortals" can afford. Just drive sensibly, allowing for the road conditions, and a "budget tyre, will be just as good nearly, as a "super duper, VERY expensive" brand 

I couldn't even tell you what the two pairs on my car are, aside from the fact that they were less than £65 per tyre, over two years ago. I used to care about tyres, but now that we're talking about massive low profiles(I'm more used to 185/70 TR 13s - Pirellis for preference - where it does make a worthwhile difference) it makes sod all difference to me what they are. I expect demand at least 20k miles from a pair, closer to 30k is better.

[DrAndyB]

So it looks like its between the Uniroyal Rainsport 3 and the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2.

DrAndyB, nice Omega.    I always did like the smoothness from the 2.5 V6 over the 2.6. Wish I would have kept mine. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

  Thanks, and she is the Manual Transmission  . I've had her from new so is a genuine mota and kept inside and only really take her out to play in the dry 

[omega2018]

here's the calcs

euro test is from 50mph in the wet

total stopping distance for average family car in the wet is 85m

the difference in braking distances between each euro grade, A to G,  is roughly 3m

so B tyres compared to A = 3m more distance, 3m/85m = 3.5% more total stopping distance
C tyres over A = 6m more distance, 6m/85m = 7% more total stopping distance

all figures approx.

of course the euro test could indeed be entirely fake, like the moon landing

[Kevin Wood]

of course the euro test could indeed be entirely fake, like the moon landing

Well, for our purposes, it is. It won't have been carried out with the tyre mounted on an Omega. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't carried out on a real car at all, but a test rig in a lab.

Road surface, weight of the car, suspension geometry and damping characteristics will all have an effect. As with most things, dumbing something down to an "A" rating actually removes any useful information from the equation.

Just like our dishwasher. A rated, so really good, then.  ...except that it doesn't get anything clean if you use it on the economy programme on which the A rating is based, so I manually select the 70 degree C "pots and pans" programme every time, otherwise I might as well fill the bowl and get my marigolds on.

[Andy A]

of course the euro test could indeed be entirely fake, like the moon landing

Well, for our purposes, it is. It won't have been carried out with the tyre mounted on an Omega. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't carried out on a real car at all, but a test rig in a lab.

Road surface, weight of the car, suspension geometry and damping characteristics will all have an effect. As with most things, dumbing something down to an "A" rating actually removes any useful information from the equation.

Just like our dishwasher. A rated, so really good, then.  ...except that it doesn't get anything clean if you use it on the economy programme on which the A rating is based, so I manually select the 70 degree C "pots and pans" programme every time, otherwise I might as well fill the bowl and get my marigolds on.

[/highlight]

So, so true. I have the same problem myself. 

[TheBoy]

Just like our dishwasher. A rated, so really good, then.  ...except that it doesn't get anything clean if you use it on the economy programme on which the A rating is based, so I manually select the 70 degree C "pots and pans" programme every time, otherwise I might as well fill the bowl and get my marigolds on.

Indeed. Stuff the environment, not one of us here gives 2 hoots about that (and even if we did, the ineffectiveness of the economy programs means its worse on environment, as everything has to go through several times), just give us something that works.

[TheBoy]

here's the calcs

euro test is from 50mph in the wet

total stopping distance for average family car in the wet is 85m

the difference in braking distances between each euro grade, A to G,  is roughly 3m

so B tyres compared to A = 3m more distance, 3m/85m = 3.5% more total stopping distance
C tyres over A = 6m more distance, 6m/85m = 7% more total stopping distance

all figures approx.

of course the euro test could indeed be entirely fake, like the moon landing

And its all 'dangle berries'. Complete utter 'dangle berries'.  I can tell you that certain premium brand A rated tyres can stop from in excess of 70mph easily within 100m in the wet. I can tell you some other A rated ones need about 25m more (so that 25%, just within A rated tyres).  I can also tell you that the Autogrip C rated did not stop within 400m in the *damp*.

The EU labelling *IS* a complete waste of time.  It serves no benefit whatsoever to the consumer, and is only beneficial to the marketing departments.  Hence the sheer number of "what tyres should I fit to my Omega".

[VXL V6]

Talking of tyres, there's a lovely crack on the inner wall of the NSF tyre on the daily driver, an RT2 that still has 6mm of tread on it. Shame it's not a rear one as they seem to be down to 2.5mm and it's MOT time in a month!

[TheBoy]

Talking of tyres, there's a lovely crack on the inner wall of the NSF tyre on the daily driver, an RT2 that still has 6mm of tread on it. Shame it's not a rear one as they seem to be down to 2.5mm and it's MOT time in a month!

That's not great.  Does it look discoloured, like my GY's did (GY and Dunlop same company in euro)

[VXL V6]

Sorry, should have said, due to our extremely well maintained roads and lack of any street lighting (hey lets turn it all off and save the planet....) you could say there was a little thump encountered early hours of the morning......

....on another point, I've always found RT's and RT2's crack between the treads over time.

[TheBoy]

Sorry, should have said, due to our extremely well maintained roads and lack of any street lighting (hey lets turn it all off and save the planet....) you could say there was a little thump encountered early hours of the morning......

Ah, bugger!  Still, hopefully not damaged the rim, unlike Mrs TB a couple of years back, when she hit the Grand Canyon, just outside Brackley.

....on another point, I've always found RT's and RT2's crack between the treads over time.

Don't think mine ever lasted long enough to notice

[VXL V6]

Sorry, should have said, due to our extremely well maintained roads and lack of any street lighting (hey lets turn it all off and save the planet....) you could say there was a little thump encountered early hours of the morning......

Ah, bugger!  Still, hopefully not damaged the rim, unlike Mrs TB a couple of years back, when she hit the Grand Canyon, just outside Brackley.

....on another point, I've always found RT's and RT2's crack between the treads over time.

Don't think mine ever lasted long enough to notice

I've noticed it on all the RT's / RT2's I've had after a while, it rarely happened on TT's or 9090's so I think it must be down to the compound.

I really need to buy four tyres for a set of 18's so the next upgrade can take place on the other one, poor Serek has been holding onto parts for ages now...! Guess i'll have to buy four more for the daily first... Will keep the other good RT2 and make it the spare wheel so I can ditch the steel one, be much happier with that in the future.

[Andy A]

Sorry, should have said, due to our extremely well maintained roads and lack of any street lighting (hey lets turn it all off and save the planet....) you could say there was a little thump encountered early hours of the morning......

Ah, bugger!  Still, hopefully not damaged the rim, unlike Mrs TB a couple of years back, when she hit the Grand Canyon, just outside Brackley.

....on another point, I've always found RT's and RT2's crack between the treads over time.

Don't think mine ever lasted long enough to notice

I've noticed it on all the RT's / RT2's I've had after a while, it rarely happened on TT's or 9090's so I think it must be down to the compound.

I really need to buy four tyres for a set of 18's so the next upgrade can take place on the other one, poor Serek has been holding onto parts for ages now...! Guess i'll have to buy four more for the daily first... Will keep the other good RT2 and make it the spare wheel so I can ditch the steel one, be much happier with that in the future.

Got 4 Neuton NT5000's on my car with 5.5mm of tread left. The date on them is 1-12 failed its MOT on Friday because they were cracked and split badly down between the groves. I have only had them on the car since June 2014.   

[Doctor Gollum]

Shit tyres don't do storage.

[Andy A]

I liked the grip of the tyre but I won't be buying them again.

[Lazydocker]

Sorry, should have said, due to our extremely well maintained roads and lack of any street lighting (hey lets turn it all off and save the planet....) you could say there was a little thump encountered early hours of the morning......

Ah, bugger!  Still, hopefully not damaged the rim, unlike Mrs TB a couple of years back, when she hit the Grand Canyon, just outside Brackley.

....on another point, I've always found RT's and RT2's crack between the treads over time.

Don't think mine ever lasted long enough to notice

I've noticed it on all the RT's / RT2's I've had after a while, it rarely happened on TT's or 9090's so I think it must be down to the compound.

I really need to buy four tyres for a set of 18's so the next upgrade can take place on the other one, poor Serek has been holding onto parts for ages now...! Guess i'll have to buy four more for the daily first... Will keep the other good RT2 and make it the spare wheel so I can ditch the steel one, be much happier with that in the future.

Got 4 Neuton NT5000's on my car with 5.5mm of tread left. The date on them is 1-12 failed its MOT on Friday because they were cracked and split badly down between the groves. I have only had them on the car since June 2014.   

I wasn't overly impressed with them in the end anyway. Started great but went off very quickly... Think I scrapped them with about 4mm tread anyway due to the unpredictability 

[Andy A]

Rainsport 3 it is then. Is the correct speed rating for the Omega 2.2i 95V?

[Doctor Gollum]

Rainsport 3 it is then. Is the correct speed rating for the Omega 2.2i 95V?

XL if estate... but V should be perfectly adequate for a standard desmond

http://www.tyrespeedrating.co.uk/

[Andy A]

Thanks Al. 

[Andy A]

Rainsport 3 it is then. Is the correct speed rating for the Omega 2.2i 95V?

XL if estate... but V should be perfectly adequate for a standard desmond

http://www.tyrespeedrating.co.uk/

Al why is the Omega called a Desmond?

[STEMO]

Rainsport 3 it is then. Is the correct speed rating for the Omega 2.2i 95V?

XL if estate... but V should be perfectly adequate for a standard desmond

http://www.tyrespeedrating.co.uk/

Al why is the Omega called a Desmond?

Tutu.....2.2.

[Andy A]

Rainsport 3 it is then. Is the correct speed rating for the Omega 2.2i 95V?

XL if estate... but V should be perfectly adequate for a standard desmond

http://www.tyrespeedrating.co.uk/

Al why is the Omega called a Desmond?

Tutu.....2.2.

Very good.