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Re: Mobile phone charger fuse
« Reply #30 on: 09 November 2007, 07:42:00 »

Thanks Entwood for info..I will take a trip to our local Maplins today and buy one...for info what is the setting on the dial for 12 volt as when looked at picture couldn,t see a 12 volt marked?
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Re: Mobile phone charger fuse
« Reply #31 on: 09 November 2007, 08:12:39 »

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amba ... a small, cheap multi-meter is invaluable for checking polarity and/or circuit continuity, as well as many other things .. they are now so cheap no-one should be without one ...

eg ..

http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=37279&doy=8m11

less than £6 !!!

I've seen these from various sources. Are they any good? If so, what's the difference between one of these and one costing anything from 5 to 50 times the cost?
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Re: Mobile phone charger fuse
« Reply #32 on: 09 November 2007, 10:01:35 »

I don't, personally, use that one, so cannot describe it's operation.. mine does other stuff as well, it is used more for computor repairs than vehicle diagnosis, but is capable of both !! ... I was merely pointing out how cheaply they can be obtained.

Most do not select a specific voltage .... you select a "range"  1-6, 6-20, 20-50 or something similar. as well as a "type"  AC or DC . To diagnose vehicle stuff select the appropriate range .. in the above example  6-20 DC would seem ok.

The one I linked to APPEARS to have 5 DC Volt ranges top left but I can't quite read the numbers

When choosing a range ALWAYS choose a high range and work down - saves blowing fuses !

With the range/type selected check the device ... you will read the "no load" voltage at the points .. a - in front usually means the polarity is incorrect, either you have the probes in the wrong place or the wiring is wrong !!

The more expensive devices usually a) do more ranges/operations, b) have better protection built in, c) are more accurate, d) are easier to read (size of screen/back lit etc) e) fancy makers name  ?   :)

You DO NOT need to be an electrician/rocket scientist/genius to use one .. common sense and a modicum of care will enable you to check/diagnose minor faults ... as well as ensuring the local idiot does not rip you off with mumbo jumbo.

just my 2.7 p's worth (inc VAT)   :)
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Re: Mobile phone charger fuse
« Reply #33 on: 09 November 2007, 12:29:20 »

I agree Entwood. I've 'borrowed' one from work and have used it quite often. I really could do with some lessons to get the best out of it, but it is amazing how often you can find a use for it.  :y
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Re: Mobile phone charger fuse
« Reply #34 on: 09 November 2007, 12:45:40 »

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I agree Entwood. I've 'borrowed' one from work and have used it quite often. I really could do with some lessons to get the best out of it, but it is amazing how often you can find a use for it.  :y


If you were REALLY bored you could get hold of this from maplins ...

http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=787&doy=9m11

or browse the million+ links under

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=using+multimeters&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

Enjoy .....  :)
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Re: Mobile phone charger fuse
« Reply #35 on: 09 November 2007, 14:44:54 »

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I agree Entwood. I've 'borrowed' one from work and have used it quite often. I really could do with some lessons to get the best out of it, but it is amazing how often you can find a use for it.  :y


If you were REALLY bored you could get hold of this from maplins ...

http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=787&doy=9m11

or browse the million+ links under

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=using+multimeters&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

Enjoy .....  :)

Cheers. A bit of light reading for the weekend. :y
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Re: Mobile phone charger fuse
« Reply #36 on: 09 November 2007, 19:59:59 »

I've just noticed these: http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=217881&doy=9m11

Will have to get one of those. Looks very handy.

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Re: Mobile phone charger fuse
« Reply #37 on: 09 November 2007, 20:31:56 »

Sparingly useful in a very limited way IMHO ... will tell you if a fuse socket is pulling high current .. you know that when the fuses blow !!!!

Danger is ... whilst running the test the meter/fault is now "un-fused" and damage to wiring could be caused ... fuses blow for a reason.

If a fuse holder has muliple inputs I prefer to check each one in Amps setting with the fuse in place, this will show current in each circuit .. time consuming but effective.

If the holder has a single input then it is usually a wiring fault, as the circuit has a lot of redundancy built in, and high current circuits go through relays for that reason.
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Re: Mobile phone charger fuse
« Reply #38 on: 09 November 2007, 23:32:05 »

I think the original fuse plugs into the side of the tool thus staying in circuit.

I just often wonder how much current circuits are pulling. Not that useful in tracking down a short, I agree, but a slow battery drain could be identified easily.

Just looked like a nice gadget :y

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Re: Mobile phone charger fuse
« Reply #39 on: 09 November 2007, 23:59:59 »

An easy way to break into a circuit to check current drawn.
More useful for measurement than fault finding i would have thought.
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Re: Mobile phone charger fuse
« Reply #40 on: 11 November 2007, 00:29:48 »

Surely, when testing the amount of current a circuit is drawing, the fuse would need to be removed as the meter needs to be connected in series. If the fuse was left in and the meter applied, this would be wired in parallel and the test wouldn't work.

I am only going by what I have read but this makes sense to me. The meter featured above would perform just that function by breaking the circuit and thus being fitted in series in the circuit?
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Re: Mobile phone charger fuse
« Reply #41 on: 12 November 2007, 15:46:10 »

Just a quick update as have now resolved the problems partially...after much head scratching have established the vx use black cable colours as live feed..so have now managed to get my phone charger working by plugging into the retro fit ciggy lighter wired into the rear vx fit ciggy lighter cables...it seems that the black feed is + and the brown -. Only thing I cannot get to work is the vx ciggy lighters as hve found that the plug cannot be connected incorrectly due to its shape..but will not worry about that as dont smoke and nor will anybody else who is in my car..thanks for everybodies help/advise and patienec with a electrical novice..atleast I won,t get a flat mobile phone battery again..only trouble is work can now also find me ?
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