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Author Topic: One for the BMW haters- fill yer boots!  (Read 29611 times)

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« Reply #255 on: 20 March 2017, 18:00:10 »

On fifth gear a while back, they put the 1.0 ecoboost focus up against the 1.6 focus from a standing start and it beat it. But I should imagine you'd have to wring it's neck all day long to get any kind of performance out of it. And, of course, your mpg would be terrible, and that's the whole point of such an engine.
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« Reply #256 on: 20 March 2017, 18:02:11 »

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Re: One for the BMW haters- fill yer boots!
« Reply #257 on: 20 March 2017, 18:03:02 »

The 2.0 ecoboost that replaces the 2.5 can be taken to around 220ps with a bluefin remap. Very acceptable in manual and auto guise (I've only ever been in an auto). Problem with the 2.5 is woeful fuel consumption. Low 20's iirc. At that level you may as well have 6 or (preferably) 8 cylinders.

You're right though, you're left hunting the real oddballs like the Chrysler 300c or the superb/Passat 3.6v6 (if you're brace enough).

The 1.0 ecoboost I had in a focus hatch hire car was fun. Not faster than a 1.8 N/A I wouldn't have said, but a lot livelier.
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Re: One for the BMW haters- fill yer boots!
« Reply #258 on: 20 March 2017, 18:18:18 »

With tax band of £500 year post 2007, not surprised.
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Re: One for the BMW haters- fill yer boots!
« Reply #259 on: 20 March 2017, 18:42:39 »

Probably had more to do with the price tag...
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Re: One for the BMW haters- fill yer boots!
« Reply #260 on: 20 March 2017, 18:55:16 »

There you go:

https://youtu.be/20FVyIYy3NE


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Re: One for the BMW haters- fill yer boots!
« Reply #261 on: 20 March 2017, 19:16:07 »

The 2.0 ecoboost that replaces the 2.5 can be taken to around 220ps with a bluefin remap. Very acceptable in manual and auto guise (I've only ever been in an auto). Problem with the 2.5 is woeful fuel consumption. Low 20's iirc. At that level you may as well have 6 or (preferably) 8 cylinders.

You're right though, you're left hunting the real oddballs like the Chrysler 300c or the superb/Passat 3.6v6 (if you're brace enough).

The 1.0 ecoboost I had in a focus hatch hire car was fun. Not faster than a 1.8 N/A I wouldn't have said, but a lot livelier.

My 2.5T Mondy Tit X estate averaged 30, with more on a run. For some reason the same engine in the Focus ST has a worse mpg then the Mondeo.

Road tax just sneaks in under the 225gm/km, so tax is £285 IIRC.
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« Reply #262 on: 20 March 2017, 21:07:51 »

One thing is for sure, there is a big lack of petrol Estates with 'normal' engines.

I just watched couple of reviews of the new Galaxy, both of the reviews when it came to engines mentioned and I quote "2 pointless petrols" and two diesels.  :-\

So you really are snookered and without choice if you want a 2.0 or even 3.0 petrol cars, no doubt someone will post links to the odd one but the choice is really, really limiting.

Say around £10k, there are 43 Mondeo Estates on AT. Of which just 3 are the older shape, they quickly jump to £15k examples, some with 1.0 Ecoboost engines!  :o
Now that the process to make diesels socially unacceptable, that should start to change.  Though it'll take 5-10yrs for it to filter through so they become affordable.
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« Reply #263 on: 20 March 2017, 21:08:40 »

That is considerably better than I was led to believe.  :y
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Re: One for the BMW haters- fill yer boots!
« Reply #264 on: 20 March 2017, 21:12:53 »

On fifth gear a while back, they put the 1.0 ecoboost focus up against the 1.6 focus from a standing start and it beat it. But I should imagine you'd have to wring it's neck all day long to get any kind of performance out of it. And, of course, your mpg would be terrible, and that's the whole point of such an engine.
But the 1.6 zetec petrol engine is a dog of an engine, has always been naff.  Only the biggest Ford fan would ever defend it.

But the little ecoboost is quite good in the Fi-fis, and still usable around town in the shitty focus, but you do have to rev the nads off it all the time. In the Mundano, its just too much to ask.
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