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Author Topic: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn  (Read 15402 times)

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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #60 on: 12 May 2020, 14:03:48 »
I can see the headlines now...

"In a tragic accident, an elderly gent accidentally runs over wife trying to push the family car up the drive having unsuccessfully tried to bump start it..."
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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #61 on: 12 May 2020, 14:30:21 »
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 12 May 2020, 14:03:48
I can see the headlines now...

"In a tragic accident, an elderly gent accidentally runs over wife trying to push the family car up the drive having unsuccessfully tried to bump start it..."
Nah, that's too long for a headline.
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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #62 on: 12 May 2020, 14:38:20 »
The drive slopes gently downhill towards the garage, is 20 yards long and I can tow the car up it with the Omega. I agree it would struggle to start the engine, is risky, and would probably get us no further forward.
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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #63 on: 12 May 2020, 14:44:00 »
Waste of time and effort.

See my previous re jump starting it from a working car  :y
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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #64 on: 12 May 2020, 14:56:54 »
Ignition switch buggered ? i.e lights on dash in p2 the sod all cranking in p3 ?
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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #65 on: 12 May 2020, 15:11:40 »
Quote from: omegod on 12 May 2020, 14:56:54
Ignition switch buggered ? i.e lights on dash in p2 the sod all cranking in p3 ?
I was gonna suggest that but people tend to laugh at me when I talk technical. ;D
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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #66 on: 12 May 2020, 16:32:16 »
It occurred to me that as I have 12v at one terminal, and 12v at the other terminal should pull in the solenoid, if I join them the starter should engage and turn the engine. And it did.
But the engine did not start. My assistant observed that yesterday the fuel gauge said half full, now it's stuck on empty. Also the display says F gal/h which isn't very helpful.
Please advise.
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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #67 on: 12 May 2020, 16:41:18 »
Correction. My assistant now says when she got into the car this afternoon it said tank half full, then I cranked the ngine, she looked again at the fuel gauge and it had dropped to empty. But it said empty last night and his morning. I've just checked, still says empty.
Could it be a dodgy relay?
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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #68 on: 12 May 2020, 17:23:47 »
Could also be out of fuel ::)
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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #69 on: 12 May 2020, 17:50:46 »
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 12 May 2020, 17:23:47
Could also be out of fuel ::)
But it was half full yesterday and it hasn't been anywhere. There is no puddle, and no smell of petrol.
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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #70 on: 12 May 2020, 17:54:42 »
If the gauge reads empty, and it turns over but won't start... What reasonable conclusion might one reach?
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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #71 on: 12 May 2020, 18:21:13 »
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 12 May 2020, 17:54:42
If the gauge reads empty, and it turns over but won't start... What reasonable conclusion might one reach?

I thought it wasn't turning over because of the starter...  :-\
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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #72 on: 12 May 2020, 18:29:53 »
Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 12 May 2020, 18:21:13
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 12 May 2020, 17:54:42
If the gauge reads empty, and it turns over but won't start... What reasonable conclusion might one reach?

I thought it wasn't turning over because of the starter...  :-\
I think from his last, that it turned over...

It has just occurred to me that it's possible it didn't start because the key wasn't in with the ignition on :-X

That's to say shorting the solenoid terminals with a battery connected will make it crank until the amps run out...
« Last Edit: 12 May 2020, 18:34:21 by Doctor Gollum »
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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #73 on: 12 May 2020, 18:46:17 »
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 12 May 2020, 18:29:53
Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 12 May 2020, 18:21:13
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 12 May 2020, 17:54:42
If the gauge reads empty, and it turns over but won't start... What reasonable conclusion might one reach?

I thought it wasn't turning over because of the starter...  :-\
I think from his last, that it turned over...

It has just occurred to me that it's possible it didn't start because the key wasn't in with the ignition on :-X
Key was in, ignition turned on, handbrake hard on, gear in neutral,and SWMBO was in the car for further safety. Rear lights work, but looks like there is no power to fuel pump and gauge.
Anyway I do not need a new starter, all it lacks is power to the solenoid relay. Tomorrow I shall plug in my diagnoser.
Any more advice very welcome.
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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #74 on: 12 May 2020, 19:07:28 »
Fuse 2 in the engine bay still intact?

Diddy one in a block of 6. 25a...
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