Topic: SSD advice please (Read 4099 times)

Auto Addict · « **on:** 30 July 2018, 18:29:33 »

Thinking of upgrading my Dell Vospro model 3568 laptop with an SSD drive.

Looked at Crucial, any other recommendations please.

256 gig would suffice.

Also need a cable and cloning software.

zirk · « **Reply #1 on:** 30 July 2018, 20:38:45 »

Crucial, SanDisk, Kingston to name a few.

if you wait one I got some emails on 250GB SSD somewhere a few weeks back, I'll go and hunt.

zirk · « **Reply #2 on:** 30 July 2018, 21:13:00 »

Kingston 120GB A400 SSD 2.5 Inch SATA 3 Solid State Drive - 500MB/s £24.99
https://www.mymemory.co.uk/kingston-120gb-ssd-a400-solid-state-drive-2-5-inch-sata-3.html

Kingston A400 240GB SSD £ 41.49
https://www.ebuyer.com/790251-kingston-a400-240gb-ssd-ebuyer-com-sa400s37-240g

WD Green 240GB 2.5" 7mm Solid State Drive £ 41.99
https://www.ebuyer.com/811274-wd-green-240gb-2-5-7mm-solid-state-drive-wds240g2g0a

Sandisk SSD Plus 240GB SATA III 2.5 inch SSD £ 49.97
https://www.ebuyer.com/749999-sandisk-ssd-plus-240gb-sata-iii-2-5-inch-ssd-sdssda-240g-g26

Integral 240GB P Series 5 SATA III SSD Drive - 560MB/s £52.99
https://www.mymemory.co.uk/integral-240gb-p-series-5-sata-iii-ssd-drive-560mb-s.html

SanDisk 240GB SSD Plus SATA III SSD Drive - 530MB/s £59.99
https://www.mymemory.co.uk/sandisk-240gb-ssd-plus-sata-iii-ssd-drive-530mb-s.html

Other option is if your Lappy has a spare Sata M2 slot, fit a SSD in there and keep your original Harddrive as well.

As for Cloning Software and lead dont bother buying them as a Kit, there about £18 for the Kit. get a cheapo USB3 to Sata off eBay for a couple of quid, and download Free, Reflect or EaseUS cloning / partition tools.

Auto Addict · « **Reply #3 on:** 30 July 2018, 21:49:21 »

Cheers

Terbs · « **Reply #4 on:** 31 July 2018, 00:37:18 »

Just to say, I have just used Reflect.....perfect clone

TheBoy · « **Reply #5 on:** 31 July 2018, 17:51:45 »

Hold back a few more weeks, SSD prices are expected to tumble further, back to the levels of about 3yrs ago

Don't bother cloning, rebuild the rather thing properly.

TheBoy · « **Reply #6 on:** 31 July 2018, 17:54:02 »

Crucial are on my shit list at the moment.

Twice now I've had their SSDs fail. Which in itself is annoying. But they don't like to honour their warranty, and try to refund you what they think its worth... ...which both times was less than £15

. It takes a lot of patience and time to get them to accept the error of their ways.

zirk · « **Reply #7 on:** 01 August 2018, 02:21:07 »

Quote from: TheBoy on 31 July 2018, 17:54:02

Crucial are on my shit list at the moment.

Twice now I've had their SSDs fail. Which in itself is annoying. But they don't like to honour their warranty, and try to refund you what they think its worth... ...which both times was less than £15 . It takes a lot of patience and time to get them to accept the error of their ways.

If Im honest and the little experiance of using SSD's over the last few years, Ive had more SSD's Fail over the recent times than Ive had Hard Drives fails over the last 30 Years $:-\$

aaronjb · « **Reply #8 on:** 01 August 2018, 09:05:37 »

While I've only had one SSD die on me, but many more HDDs over the years.

But, that's going to be highly dependent on usage - mine is generally light, while I expect TB pounds on them like a teenager on his first time

Auto Addict · « **Reply #9 on:** 01 August 2018, 17:06:39 »

Cloned the existing HD to a portable HD.

Going to fit the SSD in the morning and try a clean install of Win 10.

If that fails, I'll re-install the HD, then clone it to the SSD.

Knowning my luck, it won't be that straightforward

zirk · « **Reply #10 on:** 01 August 2018, 17:16:19 »

Quote from: Auto Addict on 01 August 2018, 17:06:39

Cloned the existing HD to a portable HD.

Going to fit the SSD in the morning and try a clean install of Win 10.

If that fails, I'll re-install the HD, then clone it to the SSD.

Knowning my luck, it won't be that straightforward

If you start it before Breakfast, should almost be ready by Tea Time.

fresh Win10 off the MS Site seems to take forever these days.

Auto Addict · « **Reply #11 on:** 01 August 2018, 18:06:53 »

Quote from: zirk on 01 August 2018, 17:16:19

Quote from: Auto Addict on 01 August 2018, 17:06:39
Cloned the existing HD to a portable HD.

Going to fit the SSD in the morning and try a clean install of Win 10.

If that fails, I'll re-install the HD, then clone it to the SSD.

Knowning my luck, it won't be that straightforward
If you start it before Breakfast, should almost be ready by Tea Time. fresh Win10 off the MS Site seems to take forever these days.

I've got it on a USB stick.

What could possibly go wrong

Auto Addict · « **Reply #12 on:** 01 August 2018, 18:23:46 »

By the way, I settled in the end for an ACME SSD drive, from the Pound Shop.

Not sure how much it cost, as I bought other things as well

TheBoy · « **Reply #13 on:** 01 August 2018, 18:24:08 »

Quote from: aaronjb on 01 August 2018, 09:05:37

While I've only had one SSD die on me, but many more HDDs over the years.

But, that's going to be highly dependent on usage - mine is generally light, while I expect TB pounds on them like a teenager on his first time

I have some consumer grade SSDs in 2 of the Proliants here, and they do take a pounding. Actually, I think the OOF primary database is on those

. No issues with them, bar the sata controller in the server crashing (possibly heat related).

One of those Crucials that failed had had really minimal use TBH in Mrs TB's old lappy, and was just over a year old. The other was about 2yrs old, and had been used in my own desktop which gets less than average use, but is data intensive on the rare occasions it is used.

I think I was unlucky on both occasions, rather than wearing them out - SMART wasn't showing high wear. My gripe was with Crucial's attitude.

TheBoy · « **Reply #14 on:** 01 August 2018, 18:25:34 »

Quote from: Auto Addict on 01 August 2018, 18:23:46

By the way, I settled in the end for an ACME SSD drive, from the Pound Shop.

Not sure how much it cost, as I bought other things as well

It'll be a lot cheaper next month, and massively cheaper next year. Looks like the greedy bastards have created too much manufacturing capacity. Again

.

TheBoy · « **Reply #15 on:** 01 August 2018, 18:27:13 »

Quote from: zirk on 01 August 2018, 17:16:19

Quote from: Auto Addict on 01 August 2018, 17:06:39
Cloned the existing HD to a portable HD.

Going to fit the SSD in the morning and try a clean install of Win 10.

If that fails, I'll re-install the HD, then clone it to the SSD.

Knowning my luck, it won't be that straightforward
If you start it before Breakfast, should almost be ready by Tea Time. fresh Win10 off the MS Site seems to take forever these days.

Win10 1803 install on a 11yr old, Core Duo, 2Gb RAM, Sandisk 240Gb Plus SSD is about 20mins for base install and its going off and getting the drivers. The cumulative July update takes longer

Auto Addict · « **Reply #16 on:** 01 August 2018, 18:30:11 »

I won't be sitting there watching it

Auto Addict · « **Reply #17 on:** 02 August 2018, 08:46:39 »

Well, that was a waste of money.

Need to remove the Optical drive first to be able to take off the back cover.

Followed the instructions from the manual and it won't budge!

Spent an hour on it with no success.

As I said, what could possibly go wrong.

aaronjb · « **Reply #18 on:** 02 August 2018, 09:22:20 »

Quote from: TheBoy on 01 August 2018, 18:24:08

One of those Crucials that failed had had really minimal use TBH in Mrs TB's old lappy, and was just over a year old. The other was about 2yrs old, and had been used in my own desktop which gets less than average use, but is data intensive on the rare occasions it is used.

I think I was unlucky on both occasions, rather than wearing them out - SMART wasn't showing high wear. My gripe was with Crucial's attitude.

You know, now that you say that - I think the only SSD I've had die was a Crucial.. though it was out of warranty by then, so I just sucked it up and replaced, but it, too, had very minimal use in an HTPC.

So maybe Crucial don't have the best reliability :/ Being a Mac whore now, though, I use whatever Mr Ive tells me to

aaronjb · « **Reply #19 on:** 02 August 2018, 09:24:37 »

Quote from: Auto Addict on 02 August 2018, 08:46:39

Well, that was a waste of money.

Need to remove the Optical drive first to be able to take off the back cover.

Followed the instructions from the manual and it won't budge!

Spent an hour on it with no success.

As I said, what could possibly go wrong.

This any help? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKwnGRiKvPU&vl=en (it's a video of a fellow removing the optical drive from said Dell, in the first 30 seconds, and then installing a new drive .. with heavy Russian accent

)

Auto Addict · « **Reply #20 on:** 02 August 2018, 09:29:45 »

Quote from: aaronjb on 02 August 2018, 09:24:37

Quote from: Auto Addict on 02 August 2018, 08:46:39
Well, that was a waste of money.

Need to remove the Optical drive first to be able to take off the back cover.

Followed the instructions from the manual and it won't budge!

Spent an hour on it with no success.

As I said, what could possibly go wrong.

This any help? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKwnGRiKvPU&vl=en (it's a video of a fellow removing the optical drive from said Dell, in the first 30 seconds, and then installing a new drive .. with heavy Russian accent )

Yup, watched several videos

aaronjb · « **Reply #21 on:** 02 August 2018, 09:34:25 »

https://www.diy.com/departments/magnusson-fibreglass-handle-club-hammer-35oz/1783415_BQ.prd it is, then!

Auto Addict · « **Reply #22 on:** 02 August 2018, 10:53:26 »

Quote from: aaronjb on 02 August 2018, 09:34:25

https://www.diy.com/departments/magnusson-fibreglass-handle-club-hammer-35oz/1783415_BQ.prd it is, then!

zirk · « **Reply #23 on:** 02 August 2018, 12:37:29 »

Quote from: aaronjb on 02 August 2018, 09:24:37

This any help? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKwnGRiKvPU&vl=en (it's a video of a fellow removing the optical drive from said Dell, in the first 30 seconds, and then installing a new drive .. with heavy Russian accent )

Well H e cant know what He's talking about, He's still got a Electronic Tag around his wrist from where he got caught on the last Job.

TheBoy · « **Reply #24 on:** 02 August 2018, 18:07:14 »

Quote from: aaronjb on 02 August 2018, 09:22:20

Being a Mac whore now, though, I use whatever Mr Ive tells me to

My stupid ~~crapbook~~ MacBook I believe has a soldered drive, so gonna be a pain to change.

Not that I would change it, based on the fact the poxy thing is a crock of shite. Plus because it rarely gets switched on, it needs to do 2-3Gb of update and several slow reboots.

Auto Addict · « **Reply #25 on:** 03 August 2018, 13:23:33 »

All done and dusted. Had another go this morning, everything went like a piece of cake

TheBoy · « **Reply #26 on:** 03 August 2018, 14:15:06 »

Excellent

Sorry I wasn’t able to help earlier, but now you’ve sorted it yourself, plus you get that warm feeling of sorting it

zirk · « **Reply #27 on:** 03 August 2018, 14:52:08 »

Glad to hear you sorted it,

shame you couldn't get additional help from TB, that way you could have blamed Him when it falls over in the future

Rods2 · « **Reply #28 on:** 03 August 2018, 16:01:44 »

Reading the cloud user HDD/SSD reliability reports and also SSD written to destruction ones the Samsung 3d-nand seem to be the longest lasting most reliable, which is why I paid a bit more and went for one of these as the price difference v hassle cost made it look sensible to pay a bit more.

Auto Addict · « **Reply #29 on:** 04 August 2018, 08:05:28 »

Had a few problems connecting to the Router, after installing Windows.

Had to plug in an ethernet cable to download all the wireless drivers.

Windows update took bloody ages.

Pretty well got it back to how it was, i.e. installing all the software on it.

Found a YouTube video, where the guy took a brand new identical model, unpacked it, then proceeded to take it to bits. Very informative

goku.s · « **Reply #30 on:** 04 August 2018, 10:21:24 »

Im using Crucial MX300 750gb for over 2 years and everuthing is working perfectly

When I was looking for ssd I looked also at samsung evo 850 but that crucial came up with nice discount

My sons laptop is waiting for a ssd upgrade because of the prices...... ridiculous...
Hope they come back to normal...

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