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Re: ROLLING ROAD.............
« Reply #30 on: 07 June 2009, 16:32:55 »

Here's a pic of the printout: not sure about the bits in green at the bottom eg BP, RH, CK etc if someone could explain, as all the bloke done was give me the bit of papaer and keys and pissed off basically, never explained anything, then again I never asked, pretty good for £45 :-X

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Re: ROLLING ROAD.............
« Reply #31 on: 07 June 2009, 17:26:53 »

BP= Barometric Pressure
RH= Relative Humidity
AT= Air Temperature

All entered / measured to compensate for weather conditions so, in theory, the same engine always gives the same result.

Not sure about the rest. :-/

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« Reply #32 on: 07 June 2009, 17:29:35 »

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BP= Barometric Pressure
RH= Relative Humidity
AT= Air Temperature

All entered / measured to compensate for weather conditions so, in theory, the same engine always gives the same result.

Not sure about the rest. :-/

Kevin

Interesting 8-)
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Re: ROLLING ROAD.............
« Reply #33 on: 07 June 2009, 17:48:21 »

Interesting to compare the graph with standard:

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1166809967

Peak torque is exactly the same at 250 Nm. We expect this since it's broadly proportional to engine capacity, which hasn't changed.

We can see that the torque used to peak at around 3,000 RPM with a smaller peak at 5,000. We have lost a little around 3,000 RPM if the OEM graphs are to be believed but the peak around 5,000 is more pronounced and since power = torque x RPM this gives better peak power.

The ripples you can see are contributions from resonance in the exhaust and induction system. At some engine speeds they contribute torque. At others they strangle it slightly.

The shape of the graph looks good. Fairly flat torque and building power up to 5200 RPM or so. The way the power flattens after that, but doesn't take a dive until the rev limiter makes me wonder if it's limited by breathing rather than cam profile - i.e. if you can get the exhaust and intake to flow freely enough there might be more to come. Might ultimately be limited by valve size or something - less easy to improve.

It's certainly a believeable plot. Real figures there rather than "bragging down the pub" figures. :y

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« Reply #34 on: 07 June 2009, 18:01:53 »

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Interesting to compare the graph with standard:

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1166809967

Peak torque is exactly the same at 250 Nm. We expect this since it's broadly proportional to engine capacity, which hasn't changed.

We can see that the torque used to peak at around 3,000 RPM with a smaller peak at 5,000. We have lost a little around 3,000 RPM if the OEM graphs are to be believed but the peak around 5,000 is more pronounced and since power = torque x RPM this gives better peak power.

The ripples you can see are contributions from resonance in the exhaust and induction system. At some engine speeds they contribute torque. At others they strangle it slightly.

The shape of the graph looks good. Fairly flat torque and building power up to 5200 RPM or so. The way the power flattens after that, but doesn't take a dive until the rev limiter makes me wonder if it's limited by breathing rather than cam profile - i.e. if you can get the exhaust and intake to flow freely enough there might be more to come. Might ultimately be limited by valve size or something - less easy to improve.

It's certainly a believeable plot. Real figures there rather than "bragging down the pub" figures. :y

Kevin

Even more interesting now you have explained in a bit more detail the reading on the graph :y.....Should the torque be climbing similar to the BHP?......Maybe why Mark suggested some work on the exhaust, assuming he meant mid sections of the exhaust ::)
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Re: ROLLING ROAD.............
« Reply #35 on: 07 June 2009, 18:05:06 »

if you want to compare...
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« Reply #36 on: 07 June 2009, 18:23:29 »

Cheers for that nice to compare yes, would'nt been easier to compare with a similar readout on mine, appear mine fluctuates (ripples as kev said) as your readout looks more steady :-X ::)
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« Reply #37 on: 07 June 2009, 20:15:15 »

Mick, I suspect your exhauts centre section baffles are collapsing (they rattle) and hence where I suspect the next limit is.

It is a nice power delivery.....good and smooth.
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« Reply #38 on: 07 June 2009, 20:55:49 »

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Very good for a 2.6 Mike :y

Has 3 litre cams in it now, at least that's what Mark told me anyway ::) ;D ;D


Trust my man trust.......... ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #39 on: 07 June 2009, 20:59:20 »

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Cheers for that nice to compare yes, would'nt been easier to compare with a similar readout on mine, appear mine fluctuates (ripples as kev said) as your readout looks more steady :-X ::)

Your readout looks very real.....a smooth line generally is only seen on electric motors (perhaps it was a Prius)
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« Reply #40 on: 07 June 2009, 21:01:39 »

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Cheers for that nice to compare yes, would'nt been easier to compare with a similar readout on mine, appear mine fluctuates (ripples as kev said) as your readout looks more steady :-X ::)

Your readout looks very real.....a smooth line generally is only seen on electric motors (perhaps it was a Prius)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Very good Mark
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« Reply #41 on: 07 June 2009, 21:18:03 »

Not bad Mike :y













































 pity its still not enough ;D ;D
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« Reply #42 on: 07 June 2009, 21:21:46 »

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Not bad Mike :y

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« Reply #43 on: 07 June 2009, 21:27:06 »

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Not bad Mike :y

Come on Pete mention the MX-5 ;D ;D ;D




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« Reply #44 on: 07 June 2009, 21:30:55 »

You would though Pete and love it   :y
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