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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: 05omegav6 on 27 April 2015, 00:41:32
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... or anyone else for that matter, know if either 9117704/9117705 are still available, or better still, if this...
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... is available as a repair panel for the Omega A/Senator A/B :-\
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If you Google 'Omega B 9117704' a US and a number of East European suppliers are listed.
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Al if not, could you not drill all them spot welds out on a breaker
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If you Google 'Omega B 9117704' a US and a number of East European suppliers are listed.
Two for sale, one is $228 plus shipping, tother is 15000 ru plus shipping :-\
The actual piece in question is a modest part of that whole assembly... if such a thing exists, the corresponding sub assembly might be available as a repair panel for an earlier model :-\
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Can it not be welded/patched...?
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Can it not be welded/patched...?
You haven't seen Terrys picture of the actual damage, have you... :D
Given its function it would be better to replace as a single unit ;)
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It wouldn't be a difficult piece to make, even if you had to reverse engineer it from the other side.
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That turret is actually three bits of metal... The main pressing, a lower cup and upper cup, all welded together where the shock bolts through :y
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That actually makes it easier; the cups provide the strength for the shock, and the shape of the pressing does the rest.
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The turret is certainly easier to remove/refit than the inner wing assembly and the repair should be more substantial than trying to patch a knackered one... Also makes it feasible to use second hand one...
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Can it not be welded/patched...?
You haven't seen Terrys picture of the actual damage, have you... :D
Given its function it would be better to replace as a single unit ;)
Here's the hole, with the mounting perched on the wing
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cmuktdl1ovd0adj/opelSTRUThole1.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/cmuktdl1ovd0adj/opelSTRUThole1.jpg?dl=0)
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Can it not be welded/patched...?
You haven't seen Terrys picture of the actual damage, have you... :D
Given its function it would be better to replace as a single unit ;)
I don't think your allowed to patch anything less than 30mm from a suspension component anyway... certainly any corrosion that weakens an area within that zone in a way that would weaken the mounting point is a no no at an MOT.
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Thanks Terry :y
Can it not be welded/patched...?
You haven't seen Terrys picture of the actual damage, have you... :D
Given its function it would be better to replace as a single unit ;)
I don't think your allowed to patch anything less than 30mm from a suspension component anyway... certainly any corrosion that weakens an area within that zone in a way that would weaken the mounting point is a no no at an MOT.
Looking at Terrys pic, his might not be savable then... Unless the crack on the out board edge could be lost when a replacement turret is welded back in...
Thinking drill the spot welds out, cleaning up the wheel side and then plug and seam welding the replacement panel into position :-\
Finish off with seam sealer and paint...
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Actually I meant 30cm!
I think one of the MOT testers on here needs to clarify the situation, as I understand it, any repair needs to extend as far as sound part of a load bearing member. Looks like there are different approaches for spot welded panels etc.
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It's technically panel replacement rather than a patch repair, so be interesting to get a definitive answer from Henry D :y
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Have a read here... http://www.motuk.co.uk/mot_appendix_c.htm
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Reading section 10, I reckon my solution would be a perfectly acceptable repair, as the complete load bearing assembly has been replaced...
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Yeh, I think it's patching is the problem, not panel replacement.
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It's technically panel replacement rather than a patch repair, so be interesting to get a definitive answer from Henry D :y
A patch repair continuously welded is an acceptable repair anywhere on the shell,its suspension arms and the like that shouldn't be welded
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I can check for you tomorrow
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I can check for you tomorrow
Thanks Andy :y
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It's technically panel replacement rather than a patch repair, so be interesting to get a definitive answer from Henry D :y
A patch repair continuously welded is an acceptable repair anywhere on the shell,its suspension arms and the like that shouldn't be welded
better to cut out complete than patch--having to replace patches on cars--as metal under patch can corrode-then your back to square one again
I would rough cut one from scrapper and then drill spot welds and then install
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It's technically panel replacement rather than a patch repair, so be interesting to get a definitive answer from Henry D :y
A patch repair continuously welded is an acceptable repair anywhere on the shell,its suspension arms and the like that shouldn't be welded
better to cut out complete than patch--having to replace patches on cars--as metal under patch can corrode-then your back to square one again
I would rough cut one from scrapper and then drill spot welds and then install
You are right it is much better to cut out and replace with new tin,sadly when its an old shitter of a Ford Ka that needs a ticket and the owner thinks it'll cost a tenner then standards may have to slip a bit !!.
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It's technically panel replacement rather than a patch repair, so be interesting to get a definitive answer from Henry D :y
A patch repair continuously welded is an acceptable repair anywhere on the shell,its suspension arms and the like that shouldn't be welded
better to cut out complete than patch--having to replace patches on cars--as metal under patch can corrode-then your back to square one again
I would rough cut one from scrapper and then drill spot welds and then install
Much more eloquently put than I managed :y
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It's technically panel replacement rather than a patch repair, so be interesting to get a definitive answer from Henry D :y
A patch repair continuously welded is an acceptable repair anywhere on the shell,its suspension arms and the like that shouldn't be welded
better to cut out complete than patch--having to replace patches on cars--as metal under patch can corrode-then your back to square one again
I would rough cut one from scrapper and then drill spot welds and then install
You are right it is much better to cut out and replace with new tin,sadly when its an old shitter of a Ford Ka that needs a ticket and the owner thinks it'll cost a tenner then standards may have to slip a bit !!.
Your seeing them in that state to then.....I had one two months ago where the only thing holding the filler in place was the filler neck.....and Ford sell a special repair panel just for such an issue!
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It's technically panel replacement rather than a patch repair, so be interesting to get a definitive answer from Henry D :y
A patch repair continuously welded is an acceptable repair anywhere on the shell,its suspension arms and the like that shouldn't be welded
better to cut out complete than patch--having to replace patches on cars--as metal under patch can corrode-then your back to square one again
I would rough cut one from scrapper and then drill spot welds and then install
You are right it is much better to cut out and replace with new tin,sadly when its an old shitter of a Ford Ka that needs a ticket and the owner thinks it'll cost a tenner then standards may have to slip a bit !!.
Your seeing them in that state to then.....I had one two months ago where the only thing holding the filler in place was the filler neck.....and Ford sell a special repair panel just for such an issue!
Down here in the salt air they are truly shocking,had a mint looking 1 owner 40k miles 06 plate in for mot tother day and had to patch both sills,lady owner was a little pissed to say the least :-X