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[hoj]

Each time you use the cruise control does the speed set or time/date get recorded somewhere?
Or can any info be retrieved at all?

[tunnie]

Don't think so. It's just on/off toggle

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Never heard anything like that -any reason for asking?

[ronnyd]

Don,t think it,s linked to speed cameras hoj

[Shackeng]

Why do I think someone has been flashed by a camera?

[hoj]

Plain white van with the hole in the back door ... You know the ones
Went past it and saw it 10 mins later went past again with C/C set to 38 mph
Got a letter saying I was doing 47 mph in a 40 zone
NO WAY
But how do I prove it? And if they have some sort of evidence its made up/false

[Stallion]

I would start of by writing to them and requesting to see evidence, and also stating the obvious tht there must be a mistake as you where fully aware of your speed at all times.
Was there average speed cameras on your route?

[05omegav6]

Might have clocked you from further away than you realise...

[hoj]

No stallion
Just a stretch of 40 mph road about a mile long
As I say saw the van on the way somewhere also cars flashing lights to warn me/others
So was doing under 40 then  (the road goes from 30 to 40 then back to 30 on way back 10 mins later I obviously knew he was there so set C/,C

[Stallion]

It could be as HKT said, got you from a further plc, but as your saying you where definitely within speed limit all along, i would still say worth a try getting in touch.
Most that speed are guilty and dont cause a fuss with the penalty they've been issued. In your case if they cant prove it then they might discard it.
This is from personal knowledge they do discard penalties if you point out your innocence or there error, but my incident was with normal speed cameras and not mobile units.

[TheBoy]

As they regularly calibrate their gear, you'll be on a losing battle.  EVEN if the cruise was recorded - its not - that would not be admissible.

You can ask for proof, but you may be better off just doing the course, if offered, drinking the coffee, and smiling at the right places.

[Nick W]

Plain white van with the hole in the back door ... You know the ones
Went past it and saw it 10 mins later went past again with C/C set to 38 mph
Got a letter saying I was doing 47 mph in a 40 zone
NO WAY
But how do I prove it? And if they have some sort of evidence it's made up/false

For a £100 fine and 3 points on your licence? Who the hell did you piss off to warrant that sort of treatment?

[Diamond Black Geezer]

I do know that a faulty speedometer isn't admissible as a reason for speeding, for example. It sounds like it should be, but then again, were that the case everybody in the world would use that excuse. I'd imagine that a 'faulty' cruise setup would be regarded as similarly so. That's assuming that you could prove your cruise was faulty - which I strongly suspect it isn't. But even if you could, there'd be no point, that would come under the banner of 'you're not maintaining your vehicle properly' 

I seem to recall you're entitled to see the photo/proof of the 'crime', however, this can take blah blah days/months to occur, and if you win, get the points revoked. Hurray! On the other hand, if you appeal and you lose, you've then lost the ability to take the 'cheaper' 'better' option of the naughtycourse, and get stuck with the far more devastating points and a fine. Clever, isn't it? I think these same people invented the 'if you're not a witch - you drown' cucking stool.

Hoping you get offered the naughtycourse, and no points etc.


http://www.which.co.uk/cars/driving/driving-advice/dealing-with-speeding-tickets/how-to-contest-a-speeding-ticket/

[YZ250]

..........
I seem to recall you're entitled to see the photo/proof of the 'crime', however, this can take blah blah days/months to occur...................

Chances are, if you ask for photo/proof they will offer to produce it in court, which is clearly not the route that most of us want.
However, if you ask for a photo/proof because you genuinely can't remember who was driving on that day, they are normally quite obliging.  The photo proof doesn't take that long to arrive, and in any case, you are genuinely asking as you want the correct person to fill in the paperwork.
I realise that you wish to contest it but this method gets you the photo proof before it gets too messy.

[Gaffers]

Isn't there something about it needing calibration as well?

[LC0112G]

..........
I seem to recall you're entitled to see the photo/proof of the 'crime', however, this can take blah blah days/months to occur...................

Chances are, if you ask for photo/proof they will offer to produce it in court, which is clearly not the route that most of us want.
However, if you ask for a photo/proof because you genuinely can't remember who was driving on that day, they are normally quite obliging.  The photo proof doesn't take that long to arrive, and in any case, you are genuinely asking as you want the correct person to fill in the paperwork.
I realise that you wish to contest it but this method gets you the photo proof before it gets too messy.

^^^ Agree

You are not entitled to ANY 'evidence' at this stage. Assuming what you have received is a Notice of Intended prosecution (aka NIP) plus a Section 172, what they are asking for is basically "Who was Driving". The addressee must (repeat MUST) reply to this within 28 days, or you'll get done for S172 rather than speeding.

You may be able to get a photo in order to help identify the driver if you claim to be unsure who was driving at the time. They are under no obligation to supply it though, and they have even been known to invite you to attend a police station where you can view the photo (and incriminate yourself ) None of this extends the 28 day S172 deadline. You must nominate who was driving within 28 days.

Once they know who was driving, they will either...

1) Send an offer of a speed awareness course (if you qualify). If you don't respond then they'll send a summons to court.
2) Send a conditional offer of a fixed penalty. This is an offer for a £100 fine and 3 points in exchange for you pleading guilty as charged at the first opportunity. If you don't respond then they'll send a summons to court.
3) Send a summons to court.

You will only get to see 'evidence' if you go to court and plead not guilty. If you want to do this on principle fine, but without some very good evidence of your own then be prepared to get shafted (big fine, costs and up to 6 points). The magistrates will have already heard every defence in the book so if you go in half cocked, expect a dicking.

[Andy B]

...., expect a dicking.

is that a legal term 

[Entwood]

Some authorities "publish" the photo's on a secure web site, details of how to view are given with the NIP/S172 documentation ... Wiltshire are one such authority .... don't ask how I know .. it should be fairly obvious !!!