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[TheBoy]

Neutral and handbrake on.

From a safety point of view, if you are shunted up the arse, your foot will come off the brake (trust me on this), and that will leave you with an uncontrolled car in drive.

From a mechanical sympathy point of view, you are cooking the ATF, and compressing a small area of red hot disc with brake pads.

[ngrainqey]

into neutral and handbrake for me, if im stationary in a manual im not about to hold the clutch pedal down with my foot, sod that so same applies in the auto 
but like people have said, if brakes are hot then holding them on can warp discs

[millwall]

on a mk 4 astra auto if you stop for more than 2 seconds the box puts itself into neutral and back into drive when footbrake released   thought my astra was faulty until i looked in the handbook and its supposed to do that

[VXL V6]

on a mk 4 astra auto if you stop for more than 2 seconds the box puts itself into neutral and back into drive when footbrake released   thought my astra was faulty until i looked in the handbook and its supposed to do that

All the FWD VX auto's with an AW box do this, apparently it saves fuel by .00000000000001% or something!

[SteveAvfc.]

on a mk 4 astra auto if you stop for more than 2 seconds the box puts itself into neutral and back into drive when footbrake released   thought my astra was faulty until i looked in the handbook and its supposed to do that

All the FWD VX auto's with an AW box do this, apparently it saves fuel by .00000000000001% or something!

That makes it all worthwhile then lol 

[Auto Addict]

Useful article on auto gearbox driving.

http://www.rospa.com/roadsafety/adviceandinformation/driving/automatic-gearboxes.aspx

Taken from the article:-

'When stationary in traffic, even for many minutes, it is not necessary to move the gear lever into neutral because the torque converter absorbs the engine’s propulsion force but does not transmit it all to the gearbox. No wear is taking place. In fact, more wear will take place if you engage neutral then engage a drive gear when it is possible to move off. Most gearboxes will automatically select first gear when the vehicle becomes stationary.'

[Andy B]

on a mk 4 astra auto if you stop for more than 2 seconds the box puts itself into neutral and back into drive when footbrake released   thought my astra was faulty until i looked in the handbook and its supposed to do that

I noticed that with the auto Asta SWMBO usd to have .......... never read the manual though  I found that it would engage drive with a bit of a thump if you were a bit quick trying to pull away if you didn't give it a chance to get into drive first.

[feeutfo]

on a mk 4 astra auto if you stop for more than 2 seconds the box puts itself into neutral and back into drive when footbrake released   thought my astra was faulty until i looked in the handbook and its supposed to do that

I noticed that with the auto Asta SWMBO usd to have .......... never read the manual though  I found that it would engage drive with a bit of a thump if you were a bit quick trying to pull away if you didn't give it a chance to get into drive first.

Similar sort of thing to auto start. On a courtesy golf blumotion I had, there was a pause in take up on the throttle to allow for the driver engaging drive while the starter motor was engaged.... stupid idea.

[feeutfo]

on a mk 4 astra auto if you stop for more than 2 seconds the box puts itself into neutral and back into drive when footbrake released   thought my astra was faulty until i looked in the handbook and its supposed to do that

I noticed that with the auto Asta SWMBO usd to have .......... never read the manual though  I found that it would engage drive with a bit of a thump if you were a bit quick trying to pull away if you didn't give it a chance to get into drive first.

Similar sort of thing to auto start. On a courtesy golf blumotion I had, there was a pause in take up on the throttle to allow for the driver engaging drive while the starter motor was engaged.... stupid idea.

...and what's an Asta btw?   

[Andy B]

....and what's an Asta btw?   

   

[the alarming man]

Useful article on auto gearbox driving.

http://www.rospa.com/roadsafety/adviceandinformation/driving/automatic-gearboxes.aspx

Taken from the article:-

'When stationary in traffic, even for many minutes, it is not necessary to move the gear lever into neutral because the torque converter absorbs the engine’s propulsion force but does not transmit it all to the gearbox. No wear is taking place. In fact, more wear will take place if you engage neutral then engage a drive gear when it is possible to move off. Most gearboxes will automatically select first gear when the vehicle becomes stationary.'

see that as changed from when i first took my test,as i was marked down on putting it into neutral  on a retest last year...

[Auto Addict]

Useful article on auto gearbox driving.

http://www.rospa.com/roadsafety/adviceandinformation/driving/automatic-gearboxes.aspx

Taken from the article:-

'When stationary in traffic, even for many minutes, it is not necessary to move the gear lever into neutral because the torque converter absorbs the engine’s propulsion force but does not transmit it all to the gearbox. No wear is taking place. In fact, more wear will take place if you engage neutral then engage a drive gear when it is possible to move off. Most gearboxes will automatically select first gear when the vehicle becomes stationary.'

see that as changed from when i first took my test,as i was marked down on putting it into neutral  on a retest last year...

Not entirely convinced about leaving it in drive, because an Omega 'creeps'.

When you leave it in drive, put the handbrake on, take your foot off the foot brake, the back of the car dips slightly.

Although, in the Omega hand book, it says you can leave it in drive when stopped.

[the alarming man]

that why i posted this up??.

[TheBoy]

Useful article on auto gearbox driving.

http://www.rospa.com/roadsafety/adviceandinformation/driving/automatic-gearboxes.aspx

Taken from the article:-

'When stationary in traffic, even for many minutes, it is not necessary to move the gear lever into neutral because the torque converter absorbs the engine’s propulsion force but does not transmit it all to the gearbox. No wear is taking place. In fact, more wear will take place if you engage neutral then engage a drive gear when it is possible to move off. Most gearboxes will automatically select first gear when the vehicle becomes stationary.'

Presumably with handbrake on 

I think, once again, ROSPA are clearly wrong.  All autoboxes have creep by design, thus you have the gearbox trying to push the car, and the brakes trying to hold it back. A recipe for accidents to occur.

[Andy B]

...... 
All autoboxes have creep by design,  .......

Have you read the above posts?  Some 'switch off' when stationary as per the Astra G  And SWMBO's Smart doesn't creep either (manual box with auto controls  )