Topic: Stag LPG kit supplier...? (Read 4452 times)

feeutfo · « **on:** 13 December 2010, 23:12:02 »

...where's best?

davethediver · « **Reply #1 on:** 13 December 2010, 23:33:47 »

Thought you were swaying the prins route?

feeutfo · « **Reply #2 on:** 13 December 2010, 23:46:22 »

Yes I was, but after some double checking with Kevin over the weekend, we agreed my current car displays some similar symptoms re lag in stock form on petrol. Ie lift off from wot gives a slight lag in the over run, so basically I can't justify the prins cost given it's not likely to sort a problem that's partially present on petrol anyway.

Although I could not re produce the very slight lag on gear changes while Kevin was in the car data logging via tech 2, slight lag from lift off from wot was defiantly there on my current petrol only car :-?. Suprising.

feeutfo · « **Reply #3 on:** 13 December 2010, 23:50:20 »

Should ad, no faults, it has current gear box software etc, fuel trims fine, nout wrong that tech 2 can find and there car was definitely quicker than my old car on the drive back from auction with Josh driving it. Yet it has very slight lag on lift off and some gear changes under certain circumstances. Although it's probably on its original ATF at 60k miles. :-?

Lazydocker · « **Reply #4 on:** 14 December 2010, 08:23:17 »

Very interesting find Chris... Perhaps we're chasing a fault that is "standard"? :-/ :-/

I would advise you to try looking for a supplier who sends "Magic Injectors" with the kit as they seem to be much quicker than the current ones. Also, you want a Vaporiser capable of 250/270+ BHP IMO, so that it's not being used at it's maximum output.

Sure James managed to find a supplier on the bay of E :-/

feeutfo · « **Reply #5 on:** 14 December 2010, 11:28:32 »

thanks Paul, plenty if stag with red injectors and weedy vapourisors, no magic ones but i'll look further tonight on gaybay.

Ta.

Kevin Wood · « **Reply #6 on:** 14 December 2010, 11:43:14 »

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Should ad, no faults, it has current gear box software etc, fuel trims fine, nout wrong that tech 2 can find and there car was definitely quicker than my old car on the drive back from auction with Josh driving it. Yet it has very slight lag on lift off and some gear changes under certain circumstances. Although it's probably on its original ATF at 60k miles. :-?

Hmm. Josh doesn't eat many ~~pies~~ curries, does he?

Kevin

feeutfo · « **Reply #7 on:** 14 December 2010, 13:34:01 »

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Should ad, no faults, it has current gear box software etc, fuel trims fine, nout wrong that tech 2 can find and there car was definitely quicker than my old car on the drive back from auction with Josh driving it. Yet it has very slight lag on lift off and some gear changes under certain circumstances. Although it's probably on its original ATF at 60k miles. :-?

Hmm. Josh doesn't eat many ~~pies~~ curries, does he?

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No cakes or pasties either.

Kevin Wood · « **Reply #8 on:** 14 December 2010, 14:57:03 »

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No cakes or pasties either.

Gaffers · « **Reply #9 on:** 14 December 2010, 16:24:28 »

What happened to Telio, or have I missed something?

PhilRich · « **Reply #10 on:** 14 December 2010, 16:46:06 »

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...where's best?

Have a look here Chris, i'm sure you can 'mix & match' stuff in the kits re:injectors with a slight price adjustment?

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&sqi=2&ved=0CC8QFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.autogas-lpg.co.uk%2Finjector-sequential-injection%2F30-magic-jet-4-cylinders.html&ei=ap4HTc6MLZGYhQfNl5T1Dw&usg=AFQjCNEd0sUISV1Mmk5uwQqpGF27I3CSzA

I'm SO sorry Chris, what a numpty I am!

feeutfo · « **Reply #11 on:** 14 December 2010, 17:25:28 »

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What happened to Telio, or have I missed something?

Lack of support I think? Guess he's still around, moved on to bigger things maybe? Certainly difficult to get hold of.

...but I think Phil has missed something certainly, should there be a link in your post Mr Rich?

tunnie · « **Reply #12 on:** 14 December 2010, 17:42:22 »

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What happened to Telio, or have I missed something?
Lack of support I think? Guess he's still around, moved on to bigger things maybe? Certainly difficult to get hold of.

...but I think Phil has missed something certainly, should there be a link in your post Mr Rich?

He was always very, very difficult to get hold of. Outstanding service when you actually managed to get through to him, he certainly knew his stuff too. But fact you can go weeks without being able to speak to him was a bit problem, I ended up paying more as I got parts from elseware, but they were always available

TheBoy · « **Reply #13 on:** 14 December 2010, 18:34:25 »

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What happened to Telio, or have I missed something?
Lack of support I think? Guess he's still around, moved on to bigger things maybe? Certainly difficult to get hold of.

...but I think Phil has missed something certainly, should there be a link in your post Mr Rich?

I'm still awaiting a call-back from October

I recalibrated mine last week, and now I have bad lag. WTF.

feeutfo · « **Reply #14 on:** 14 December 2010, 18:59:20 »

So where did you 2 get yours?

TheBoy · « **Reply #15 on:** 14 December 2010, 19:01:28 »

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So where did you 2 get yours?

Mine came from Teilo

feeutfo · « **Reply #16 on:** 14 December 2010, 21:49:01 »

One thought, which I think we talked about, was fitting stag, see how it goes, and if there is a lag issue fit prins injectors.

TheBoy · « **Reply #17 on:** 14 December 2010, 21:54:06 »

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One thought, which I think we talked about, was fitting stag, see how it goes, and if there is a lag issue fit prins injectors.

Ah, did I include you on some of that info I got about the lag, and preferred injectors?

feeutfo · « **Reply #18 on:** 14 December 2010, 22:02:21 »

Probably but remind me.

TheBoy · « **Reply #19 on:** 14 December 2010, 22:04:56 »

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Probably but remind me.

Valtek should be OK in an Omega, but something else (escapes me) would be preferred, and to richen the map at the lag point...

PhilRich · « **Reply #20 on:** 14 December 2010, 22:10:36 »

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Have a look here Chris, i'm sure you can 'mix & match' stuff in the kits re:injectors with a slight price adjustment?

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&sqi=2&ved=0CC8QFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.autogas-lpg.co.uk%2Finjector-sequential-injection%2F30-magic-jet-4-cylinders.html&ei=ap4HTc6MLZGYhQfNl5T1Dw&usg=AFQjCNEd0sUISV1Mmk5uwQqpGF27I3CSzA

I'm SO sorry Chris, what a numpty I am!

Bumped this in case Chris missed it. Sorry!

feeutfo · « **Reply #21 on:** 14 December 2010, 22:12:42 »

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Valtek should be OK in an Omega, but something else (escapes me) would be preferred, and to richen the map at the lag point...

Ah, so lag is "lean"...?

TheBoy · « **Reply #22 on:** 14 December 2010, 22:14:55 »

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Probably but remind me.
Valtek should be OK in an Omega, but something else (escapes me) would be preferred, and to richen the map at the lag point...
Ah, so lag is "lean"...?

Who knows, that its a theory

feeutfo · « **Reply #23 on:** 14 December 2010, 22:17:33 »

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Have a look here Chris, i'm sure you can 'mix & match' stuff in the kits re:injectors with a slight price adjustment?

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&sqi=2&ved=0CC8QFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.autogas-lpg.co.uk%2Finjector-sequential-injection%2F30-magic-jet-4-cylinders.html&ei=ap4HTc6MLZGYhQfNl5T1Dw&usg=AFQjCNEd0sUISV1Mmk5uwQqpGF27I3CSzA

I'm SO sorry Chris, what a numpty I am!

Bumped this in case Chris missed it. Sorry!

Ooh yes, I had missed it. Thankyou Phil, and no worries.

Had viewed that site briefly but not seen the better components needed. I'll bell them in the morning?

Ta

feeutfo · « **Reply #24 on:** 14 December 2010, 22:27:35 »

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Probably but remind me.
Valtek should be OK in an Omega, but something else (escapes me) would be preferred, and to richen the map at the lag point...
Ah, so lag is "lean"...?
Who knows, that its a theory

From looking at the petrol only data log Kev did on mine over the weekend, re throttle actual position v pedal position, the throttle is never shut fully in as much that the petrol ecu manages the over run by feeding air to smooth it out on dbw engine. Maybe the LPG fuel feed is not keeping up with the DBW throttle settings from the petrol map on the over run...if you see what I mean?

But again, dejahvou, we have discussed this before, although I had forgotten your info, you did tell me.

So, stag kit and fiddle with injectors if needed. A plan ?

Kevin Wood · « **Reply #25 on:** 15 December 2010, 00:00:55 »

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From looking at the petrol only data log Kev did on mine over the weekend, re throttle actual position v pedal position, the throttle is never shut fully in as much that the petrol ecu manages the over run by feeding air to smooth it out on dbw engine. Maybe the LPG fuel feed is not keeping up with the DBW throttle settings from the petrol map on the over run...if you see what I mean?

Thought had crossed my mind but throttle remains wide open during upshift and torque reduce is done by ignition retard.

Also, throttle certainly stays open on a non-DBW.

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I recalibrated mine last week, and now I have bad lag. WTF.

Well, points to a tuning issue then? :-/

Kevin

tunnie · « **Reply #26 on:** 15 December 2010, 11:21:41 »

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So where did you 2 get yours?

Front end kit from eBay, tank and rear end kit Tinleytech.

Got 90L tank for price of 80L

feeutfo · « **Reply #27 on:** 15 December 2010, 13:11:01 »

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From looking at the petrol only data log Kev did on mine over the weekend, re throttle actual position v pedal position, the throttle is never shut fully in as much that the petrol ecu manages the over run by feeding air to smooth it out on dbw engine. Maybe the LPG fuel feed is not keeping up with the DBW throttle settings from the petrol map on the over run...if you see what I mean?

Thought had crossed my mind but throttle remains wide open during upshift and torque reduce is done by ignition retard.

Also, throttle certainly stays open on a non-DBW.

So thinking two differant issues possibly? we all have the gear change lag to a certain degree, but do the the throttle cable cars have the lift off lag as well? thinking not, although unsure what effect the icv will have on the non dbw cars at the relevant engine speeds?

Kevin Wood · « **Reply #28 on:** 15 December 2010, 14:04:56 »

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So thinking two differant issues possibly? we all have the gear change lag to a certain degree, but do the the throttle cable cars have the lift off lag as well? thinking not, although unsure what effect the icv will have on the non dbw cars at the relevant engine speeds?

I'm, thinking we need a selection of cars and a vacant airfield to figure out if we're all getting the same issue.

Kevin

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #29 on:** 15 December 2010, 16:40:20 »

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One thought, which I think we talked about, was fitting stag, see how it goes, and if there is a lag issue fit prins injectors.

Keihin injectors are used by Prins

They are expensive and difficult to obtain

feeutfo · « **Reply #30 on:** 15 December 2010, 16:47:25 »

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One thought, which I think we talked about, was fitting stag, see how it goes, and if there is a lag issue fit prins injectors.

Keihin injectors are used by Prins

They are expensive and difficult to obtain

£250 from prins approved installers. .....so it would be nice to know they cured the problem before parting with a lot of cash.

feeutfo · « **Reply #31 on:** 15 December 2010, 18:59:26 »

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Probably but remind me.
Valtek should be OK in an Omega, but something else (escapes me) would be preferred, and to richen the map at the lag point...

He recommends Hana 2000 injectors, and implies the lag signifies a lean condition and to richen up via the 3d map :-?

Google reveals fa re those injectors :-/

TheBoy · « **Reply #32 on:** 15 December 2010, 19:03:50 »

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Probably but remind me.
Valtek should be OK in an Omega, but something else (escapes me) would be preferred, and to richen the map at the lag point...
He recommends Hana 2000 injectors, and implies the lag signifies a lean condition and to richen up via the 3d map :-?

Google reveals fa re those injectors :-/

Ah, your email works then

I could find sod all on those injectors either....

feeutfo · « **Reply #33 on:** 15 December 2010, 19:06:36 »

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Probably but remind me.
Valtek should be OK in an Omega, but something else (escapes me) would be preferred, and to richen the map at the lag point...
He recommends Hana 2000 injectors, and implies the lag signifies a lean condition and to richen up via the 3d map :-?

Google reveals fa re those injectors :-/
Ah, your email works then

I could find sod all on those injectors either....

So two Stag v6 kits then?

feeutfo · « **Reply #34 on:** 15 December 2010, 19:09:34 »

I have posted re this subject on one of the LPG forums.

So far, all members subs are approved by admin, as are all new topics, it's not a quick process.

TheBoy · « **Reply #35 on:** 15 December 2010, 20:51:51 »

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Probably but remind me.
Valtek should be OK in an Omega, but something else (escapes me) would be preferred, and to richen the map at the lag point...
He recommends Hana 2000 injectors, and implies the lag signifies a lean condition and to richen up via the 3d map :-?

Google reveals fa re those injectors :-/
Ah, your email works then

I could find sod all on those injectors either....
So two Stag v6 kits then?

I reckon I could be going down the Stag route again...

feeutfo · « **Reply #36 on:** 15 December 2010, 20:55:27 »

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Probably but remind me.
Valtek should be OK in an Omega, but something else (escapes me) would be preferred, and to richen the map at the lag point...
He recommends Hana 2000 injectors, and implies the lag signifies a lean condition and to richen up via the 3d map :-?

Google reveals fa re those injectors :-/
Ah, your email works then

I could find sod all on those injectors either....
So two Stag v6 kits then?
I reckon I could be going down the Stag route again...

Who will do us a deal on two? Or 3 if Jim wants one...? (with 3d map and magic injectors, to start with)

feeutfo · « **Reply #37 on:** 16 December 2010, 00:00:22 »

A few replies so far...

http://www.lpgforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=8759

Non specific to omega though. :-/

davethediver · « **Reply #38 on:** 16 December 2010, 00:13:38 »

"We are a tight bunch"

feeutfo · « **Reply #39 on:** 16 December 2010, 00:22:44 »

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"We are a tight bunch"

aaronjb · « **Reply #40 on:** 16 December 2010, 00:29:46 »

The second response seems to boil down to "You have to keep recalibrating because the injectors slowly wear out and the system isn't clever enough to figure that out" ...

The more I read about gas, the more I think the whole thing seems ... a bit of a bodge?

Then again, that's my general opinion on piggyback ECUs on top of OBD-II compliant ECUs in general (hence the standalone on the MR2) - you're always fighting the stock ECUs self-learning, it seems.

[edit] Man, I just re-read the three posts I made and they're all incredibly negative. Someone find me a stock of happy pills, stat!

Kevin Wood · « **Reply #41 on:** 16 December 2010, 10:09:50 »

Rossko is assuming the throttle closes during gear change, which it doesn't.

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The more I read about gas, the more I think the whole thing seems ... a bit of a bodge?

Then again, that's my general opinion on piggyback ECUs on top of OBD-II compliant ECUs in general (hence the standalone on the MR2) - you're always fighting the stock ECUs self-learning, it seems.

Well, yes and no. The alternative is a second dedicated ECU for LPG, of course, or a purpose designed Bi-Fuel ECU.

The bodge then becomes making the new ECU work with all the other systems in the car, so CAN comms, both standard and proprietary to Bosch with the ABC/TC, autobox and the various other signals to the MID, instuments, climate control, etc.

With a "piggy back" ECU you have a nice simple interface to hook up to; a pulse for each cylinder with duration proportional to fuel demand. In theory, as long as you apply the corrections to compensate for temperature and pressure of the LPG the "learning" mechanisms in the main ECU work to your favour on LPG too.

The only slight issue you then have is that the ignition map is set up for petrol where ideally you'd want a little more advance on LPG and the transient corrections assume a liquid fuel and "wall wetting", which is not the case with LPG.

I suspect the second of the above is a factor in this lag we are seeing.

So, a bodge? Perhaps, but between a rock and a hard place. :-/

Kevin

aaronjb · « **Reply #42 on:** 16 December 2010, 11:42:56 »

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So, a bodge? Perhaps, but between a rock and a hard place. :-/

True, I forgot about that pesky CANbus thing, always complicating issues.. talking to the rest of the car is always the hard part, I suppose.

Kevin Wood · « **Reply #43 on:** 16 December 2010, 11:54:12 »

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A few replies so far...

http://www.lpgforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=8759

Non specific to omega though. :-/

I've dipped my oar in.. Pending moderation.

Kevin Wood · « **Reply #44 on:** 16 December 2010, 14:13:18 »

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I reckon I could be going down the Stag route again...
Who will do us a deal on two? Or 3 if Jim wants one...? (with 3d map and magic injectors, to start with)

I got low on LPG at the weekend thanks to my usual garage running out, and ended up paying 78.9ppl

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I think I'd be waiting until the spring to see if the price of LPG becomes more sensible, or at least stops rocketing, to be perfectly honest. Payback from a conversion would be a good 2 years for me at those sort of prices. Then again, I'm not burning much petrol at the moment so maybe I'm only seeing one side of the story. :-/

Kevin

Gaffers · « **Reply #45 on:** 16 December 2010, 14:18:09 »

I'll be looking at LPGing mine too but definitely nearer Q2 next year

feeutfo · « **Reply #46 on:** 16 December 2010, 14:52:51 »

While keen to miss the vat hike, it most likely won't be fitted until feb at the earliest the way things are going, been trying to do plugs and cam covers for the last week...poxy weather!

feeutfo · « **Reply #47 on:** 16 December 2010, 14:58:22 »

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A few replies so far...

http://www.lpgforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=8759

Non specific to omega though. :-/

I've dipped my oar in.. Pending moderation.

A strange set up, over zealous perhaps? Wonder what they could be concerned about....?

Kevin Wood · « **Reply #48 on:** 16 December 2010, 15:01:14 »

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A strange set up, over zealous perhaps? Wonder what they could be concerned about....?

What we get here. Spammers running automated scripts that sign up, post a load of old carp and then disappear.

Kevin

Gaffers · « **Reply #49 on:** 16 December 2010, 15:01:58 »

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While keen to miss the vat hike, it most likely won't be fitted until feb at the earliest the way things are going, been trying to do plugs and cam covers for the last week...poxy weather!

Fancy coming around here to the workshop?

aaronjb · « **Reply #50 on:** 16 December 2010, 15:47:01 »

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While keen to miss the vat hike, it most likely won't be fitted until feb at the earliest the way things are going, been trying to do plugs and cam covers for the last week...poxy weather!

I've been meaning to do the cam cover gaskets since September when I got the car..

TheBoy · « **Reply #51 on:** 16 December 2010, 18:50:26 »

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I reckon I could be going down the Stag route again...
Who will do us a deal on two? Or 3 if Jim wants one...? (with 3d map and magic injectors, to start with)

I got low on LPG at the weekend thanks to my usual garage running out, and ended up paying 78.9ppl .

I think I'd be waiting until the spring to see if the price of LPG becomes more sensible, or at least stops rocketing, to be perfectly honest. Payback from a conversion would be a good 2 years for me at those sort of prices. Then again, I'm not burning much petrol at the moment so maybe I'm only seeing one side of the story. :-/

Kevin

Most expensive this way is 71.9p, though the cheaper stations around these parts are hiking 5p a time

Is it the same gas as heating LPG? If so, I guess the cold snap has hiked the price?

TheBoy · « **Reply #52 on:** 16 December 2010, 18:52:52 »

I was keen to buy before the price hike, though in reality, what are we talking, £15-£20?

Or do I rip the kit off the MV6 and retire it?

feeutfo · « **Reply #53 on:** 16 December 2010, 19:04:44 »

It's the most sensible option IMO. Depends how much you love the mv6? So I guess a new kit then?

TheBoy · « **Reply #54 on:** 16 December 2010, 19:10:57 »

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It's the most sensible option IMO. Depends how much you love the mv6? So I guess a new kit then?

The MV6 and I are not seeing eye-to-eye currently.

That said, its still my preferred transport

TheBoy · « **Reply #55 on:** 16 December 2010, 19:12:04 »

Plus the MV6 is fully certified and logged with DVLA and insurance... ...now its actually legal..........

VXL V6 · « **Reply #56 on:** 16 December 2010, 19:19:26 »

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It's the most sensible option IMO. Depends how much you love the mv6? So I guess a new kit then?
The MV6 and I are not seeing eye-to-eye currently.

That said, its still my preferred transport

MV6 or Irmscher / Bilsten suspension on the Elite then....

...and not forgetting 'slight' modification to a set of MV6 seats onto Elite bases to retain the memory function.

Simples

feeutfo · « **Reply #57 on:** 16 December 2010, 19:33:16 »

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It's the most sensible option IMO. Depends how much you love the mv6? So I guess a new kit then?
The MV6 and I are not seeing eye-to-eye currently.

That said, its still my preferred transport

MV6 or Irmscher / Bilsten suspension on the Elite then....

...and not forgetting 'slight' modification to a set of MV6 seats onto Elite bases to retain the memory function.

Simples

Straight swap re suspension iirc?

VXL V6 · « **Reply #58 on:** 16 December 2010, 19:37:02 »

Differences between pre-face and facelift MV6 suspension IIRC?

TheBoy · « **Reply #59 on:** 16 December 2010, 19:39:13 »

The MV6 is staying. Accept it. Move on.

The Elite... ...to quote Sarah Connor... "The future is not set"

feeutfo · « **Reply #60 on:** 16 December 2010, 19:39:16 »

Yeah, think he has face lift shocks, or something, to go with front irmscher springs though...?

feeutfo · « **Reply #61 on:** 16 December 2010, 19:41:56 »

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While keen to miss the vat hike, it most likely won't be fitted until feb at the earliest the way things are going, been trying to do plugs and cam covers for the last week...poxy weather!

Fancy coming around here to the workshop?

Hmmm, now theres an offer. Strokes chin, when you thinking...?

Gaffers · « **Reply #62 on:** 16 December 2010, 20:01:32 »

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While keen to miss the vat hike, it most likely won't be fitted until feb at the earliest the way things are going, been trying to do plugs and cam covers for the last week...poxy weather!

Fancy coming around here to the workshop?
Hmmm, now theres an offer. Strokes chin, when you thinking...?

I have access all day tomorrow less a couple of hours for the mot

feeutfo · « **Reply #63 on:** 16 December 2010, 20:35:33 »

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While keen to miss the vat hike, it most likely won't be fitted until feb at the earliest the way things are going, been trying to do plugs and cam covers for the last week...poxy weather!

Fancy coming around here to the workshop?
Hmmm, now theres an offer. Strokes chin, when you thinking...?

I have access all day tomorrow less a couple of hours for the mot

Ah, not weekend then?

Gaffers · « **Reply #64 on:** 16 December 2010, 20:38:32 »

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While keen to miss the vat hike, it most likely won't be fitted until feb at the earliest the way things are going, been trying to do plugs and cam covers for the last week...poxy weather!

Fancy coming around here to the workshop?
Hmmm, now theres an offer. Strokes chin, when you thinking...?

I have access all day tomorrow less a couple of hours for the mot
Ah, not weekend then?

I could do a few hours early sat am but i fly out sunday and the wife is rabby enough when we fly so i cant kick the arse out of it

feeutfo · « **Reply #65 on:** 17 December 2010, 12:35:51 »

well theres no rushing the lpg forum is there, COME OOOON.

Kevin Wood · « **Reply #66 on:** 17 December 2010, 13:41:09 »

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well theres no rushing the lpg forum is there, COME OOOON.

Haven't even got round to moderating my post yet. I give up.

Kevin

TheBoy · « **Reply #67 on:** 18 December 2010, 12:57:29 »

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well theres no rushing the lpg forum is there, COME OOOON.

Haven't even got round to moderating my post yet. I give up.

Kevin

Maybe they have, but just don't like you

Kevin Wood · « **Reply #68 on:** 18 December 2010, 15:37:10 »

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well theres no rushing the lpg forum is there, COME OOOON.

Haven't even got round to moderating my post yet. I give up.

Kevin
Maybe they have, but just don't like you

Doesn't matter to me, either way.

feeutfo · « **Reply #69 on:** 18 December 2010, 16:48:18 »

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well theres no rushing the lpg forum is there, COME OOOON.

Haven't even got round to moderating my post yet. I give up.

Kevin
Maybe they have, but just don't like you

Doesn't matter to me, either way.

We are diy ers after all....

feeutfo · « **Reply #70 on:** 18 December 2010, 16:51:25 »

Something not right, there have been a couple of posts since on the LPG forum, including one today. :-?

Kevin Wood · « **Reply #71 on:** 18 December 2010, 21:06:47 »

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Christmas has come early.

feeutfo · « **Reply #72 on:** 18 December 2010, 22:30:58 »

Well Santa is busy this time of year...

feeutfo · « **Reply #73 on:** 20 December 2010, 23:50:34 »

Well, no replies so I guess their not sure either. :-/

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