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[Doctor Gollum]

Well, it's just grown legs...

When the house was built, they put a double skin in as the garage ceiling, and being the late '50s/early '60s, they obviously felt that 1/4" asbestos board was the best way to do this.

Fast forward to the early '90s and the garage was shortened to create some more space in the new kitchen extension. Of course, the left the asbestos in place.

Fast forward to now. The garage ceiling needs to be removed, partly because it's asbestos, and partly to ensure that the water hasn't caused further, hidden damage to the joists etc as it had soaked down over time.

Had the news today, that they want to remove ALL the asbestos rather than simply the current garage ceiling, so they now want to remove the end wall in order to get it down where it encroaches into the kitchen. So the kitchen has to be cleared along with the all the plumbing including gas and much of the wiring as it's all in/through that wall.

All to avoid cutting the asbestos at the wall...

Still, at least it's not raining.

[henryd]

Will the house/contents cover run to that ?

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Dust mask and an  angle grinder. Job Jobbed. People worry too much these days.

[Doctor Gollum]

Time will tell... If it's at their insistence, the I would have thought so

It's being reassessed at some point as initially the asbestos people thought they would simply slice it at the end of the garage.

The final straw would probably be that the joist is rotten, which would see two upstairs walls, airing cupboard and landing taken out. Not that they're structural, but even so.

Original estimate was about 1% of property value, so there is some scope...

[Doctor Gollum]

Dust mask and an  angle grinder. Job Jobbed. People worry too much these days.

I wouldn't use a grinder... Too much dust, and you can't get masks for love nor money (God alone knows why )

And the tip won't currently take it.

But otherwise a valid observation 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

F*ucking hell........and there was me thinking 5 minutes with the silicone sealant would sort it.

Take the insurance company for every penny they have.

[STEMO]

F*ucking hell........and there was me thinking 5 minutes with the silicone sealant would sort it.

Take the insurance company for every penny they have.

That would be billions, doubt it will cost that much 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

F*ucking hell........and there was me thinking 5 minutes with the silicone sealant would sort it.

Take the insurance company for every penny they have.

That would be billions, doubt it will cost that much 

It would if I was making the claim.

[redelitev6]

Dust mask and an  angle grinder. Job Jobbed. People worry too much these days.

Dust mask ? what are you , some sort of snowflake ?

[STEMO]

F*ucking hell........and there was me thinking 5 minutes with the silicone sealant would sort it.

Take the insurance company for every penny they have.

That would be billions, doubt it will cost that much 

It would if I was making the claim.

So you got billions for your greenhouse orangery?

[Sir Tigger KC]

F*ucking hell........and there was me thinking 5 minutes with the silicone sealant would sort it.

Take the insurance company for every penny they have.

That would be billions, doubt it will cost that much 

It would if I was making the claim.

So you got billions for your greenhouse orangery?

Didn't you know that Orangeries are very expensive in Lincolnsausageshire Uncle STEMO? 

I think it because they have to be constructed so that they don't sink into the bog....     

[STEMO]

F*ucking hell........and there was me thinking 5 minutes with the silicone sealant would sort it.

Take the insurance company for every penny they have.

That would be billions, doubt it will cost that much 

It would if I was making the claim.

So you got billions for your greenhouse orangery?

Didn't you know that Orangeries are very expensive in Lincolnsausageshire Uncle STEMO? 

I think it because they have to be constructed so that they don't sink into the bog....     

Wow! That must be some bog 

[ronnyd]

F*ucking hell........and there was me thinking 5 minutes with the silicone sealant would sort it.

Take the insurance company for every penny they have.

That would be billions, doubt it will cost that much 

It would if I was making the claim.

So you got billions for your greenhouse orangery?

Didn't you know that Orangeries are very expensive in Lincolnsausageshire Uncle STEMO? 

I think it because they have to be constructed so that they don't sink into the bog....     

Or get blown away by the howling gales that scream down the North Sea.

[STEMO]

F*ucking hell........and there was me thinking 5 minutes with the silicone sealant would sort it.

Take the insurance company for every penny they have.

That would be billions, doubt it will cost that much 

It would if I was making the claim.

So you got billions for your greenhouse orangery?

Didn't you know that Orangeries are very expensive in Lincolnsausageshire Uncle STEMO? 

I think it because they have to be constructed so that they don't sink into the bog....     

Or get blown away by the howling gales that scream down the North Sea.

He's as far away from the coast as you are 

[biggriffin]

F*ucking hell........and there was me thinking 5 minutes with the silicone sealant would sort it.

Take the insurance company for every penny they have.

That would be billions, doubt it will cost that much 

It would if I was making the claim.

 But you had Philip flopski park a scarnia and trailer in your house.

[ronnyd]

F*ucking hell........and there was me thinking 5 minutes with the silicone sealant would sort it.

Take the insurance company for every penny they have.

That would be billions, doubt it will cost that much 

It would if I was making the claim.

So you got billions for your greenhouse orangery?

Didn't you know that Orangeries are very expensive in Lincolnsausageshire Uncle STEMO? 

I think it because they have to be constructed so that they don't sink into the bog....     

Or get blown away by the howling gales that scream down the North Sea.

He's as far away from the coast as you are 

Oh, that's a shame. 

[raywilb]

my father in-law died , he had asbestosis through working in the coach building industry .employed at 15 as an apprentice joiner for British rail. he was an amazing man , never had time off through illness. did the last 20yrs on nights doing 4 x 12 hr shifts. on a sunday night i,d meet up with him & have a drink with him & on our way home for about a year he would complain about the pains he were having but still never saw a doctor. eventually the family doctor was called & he remarked that technically he shouldn,t be seeing him cos he had never seen a doctor he wasn,t registered anywhere. however they got him into an hospital & 7 days later he died. 1974 at the age of 64. sorry i kind of hi-jacked the op post.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Not really Ray as we were talking about asbestos. 

I always remember a Radio 4 programme about the shipbuilding yards on Tyneside and how loads of the workers were dying of asbestosis before they fully understood the dangers.  A female bus conductor also died of it as she'd breathed in the asbestos dust that was on the men's overalls as they got on the bus home. 

[Keith ABS]

 The ar$ehole of an ex father-in-law I had used to boast that he would go through asbestosis. he was a pipefitter apprentice when they were still using the powdered asbestos as lagging. It was a job he loved, pouring the powder into buckets of water to mix up into a paste.
He used to keep saying about it. so one day after the story again, I said at his cremation it would take a week to burn him due to all of it inside him. he never commented agian with everyone laughing at the comment

[Doctor Gollum]

My Grandfather in my Dad's side was an electrical fitter at Chatham refitting submarines, so it's possible that this had a bearing on Dad's lungs

It's all becoming a bit of a nightmare, and I'm just waiting for them to pull the ceiling/floor and decide that the joist is rotten and the rsj that the joists sit on is rotten...

Not sure at what point a house would be written off at, but it feels like that may be the least stressful route

Alternatively, there's part of me that just wants to rip the garage ceiling down and eliminate it as an issue. 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

I can well remember helping my Dad do the brakes on cars when I was a kid. We thought nothing of removing the brake drums and blowing all the dust out with a few deep breaths. Didn't know there was any problem with Asbestos in those days.
I suppose, at 60, theres still time for it to come back and bite me on the arse. Although 9 years in a foundry with all the silica particles floating in the air, and after that, 20 years of concrete dust, might also do something similar.
Not forgetting 30 cigs a day for 25 years.

[Andy B]

The ar$ehole of an ex father-in-law I had used to boast that he would go through asbestosis. he was a pipefitter apprentice when they were still using the powdered asbestos as lagging. It was a job he loved, pouring the powder into buckets of water to mix up into a paste.
He used to keep saying about it. so one day after the story again, I said at his cremation it would take a week to burn him due to all of it inside him. he never commented agian with everyone laughing at the comment

Every time we came home from anywhere & parked up alongside the dock side, the dockyard workers would come onboard and smash the lagging off. The dust would fill all the the engine &/or boiler room and elsewhere besides ..... 

[STEMO]

My Grandfather in my Dad's side was an electrical fitter at Chatham refitting submarines, so it's possible that this had a bearing on Dad's lungs

It's all becoming a bit of a nightmare, and I'm just waiting for them to pull the ceiling/floor and decide that the joist is rotten and the rsj that the joists sit on is rotten...

Not sure at what point a house would be written off at, but it feels like that may be the least stressful route

Alternatively, there's part of me that just wants to rip the garage ceiling down and eliminate it as an issue. 

Well...if you find a rolled steel joist that is rotten....take a picture.