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Re: cummings
« Reply #90 on: 25 May 2020, 13:49:19 »

Th story will run through most of this week imo, and then something else will pop up.
This Govt. does seem to be squandering the political capital it had when it won that 80 seat majority a short time ago, though.

That is what I have been saying as, regardless of the facts or not, Boris is allowing a political distraction take over from the crucial business of his government, and his standing as PM, whilst there is a crisis on.  Any political advantage that Boris had after the very successful election is being squandered away, for what?!

Like many now, I suspect Cummings knows too much for Boris to act in a rational and politically sensitive way and that in itself is now very disturbing and could be ultimately highly damaging to this Government, and us, the people. :(

Disagree.  If anything, now is the time that Boris needs to show some backbone and face down the mob.   :)

In my view Cummings provides some much needed steel in this government and if he is ousted I can see all sorts of negative consequences down the track as the Tory wets gain influence. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the so called transition period with the EU was extended for example.  ::)
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« Reply #91 on: 25 May 2020, 13:53:30 »

If you have been fined under the lockdown rules you can now get a refund under the new Cummings and goings law.  :D
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« Reply #92 on: 25 May 2020, 14:28:23 »

Watch out he’s cumming for you......,,
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« Reply #93 on: 25 May 2020, 16:56:57 »

Well, now after hearing the man what do we all think..................?

I must admit that for me his explanation seems fair enough in terms of two very important aspects;  first the security risk to his family, who were showing virus symptoms, by staying in his London home after having, he claims, threats made against him - then the risk and circumstances when up in Durham, but him staying in a separate house, isolated on private property.

Don't know about the "road test" to the Castle, but that is plausible.

So on balance, it is a great pity all this did not come out for the public days ago and his news conference was not before his boss's yesterday. But he is a human being, and we can make bad judgements; he acted as he felt best, even though perhaps he could have handled it better.

But now the distraction I have been complaining about has got to stop, he and us move on, and Boris's Government must deal with the real matters in hand!

Move on, let it be! ;)

PS  But will the news hungry press allow anyone to?! ::) ::)
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« Reply #94 on: 25 May 2020, 17:00:13 »

Seems plausible & he appears far more humble than last night  move on & hopefully he's learned from this.
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Re: cummings
« Reply #95 on: 25 May 2020, 17:08:21 »

No idea if any of what he said is true, but unless any facts emerge to contradict him, he is off the hook.
Interestingly, the journalist who is giving him the hardest time, is the one from the Daily Mail, which goes to show how much the Mail has changed since changing its editor a year or so ago.  ::)
The standard of journalism is appalling. Its clear that most of them have written their questions before he gave his speech, and despite the fact what he said made those questions no longer relevant, they are still asking them anyway. Presumably because they are too dimwitted to think up new ones on the spot.
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« Reply #96 on: 25 May 2020, 17:14:38 »

Where is the fire breathing Demonic Cummings? People were right in one respect, he doesn't admit fault and he doesn't say sorry.
I'm reserving judgement. If people accept what he is saying as the truth, then that should be an end to it. But I somehow don't think it will be.
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« Reply #97 on: 25 May 2020, 17:24:53 »

Where else are they going to go with it though ? For my money he is safe now. If the media keep banging on about it now they will be the bad guys carrying out a witch hunt against him.
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« Reply #98 on: 25 May 2020, 17:28:52 »

Where else are they going to go with it though ? For my money he is safe now. If the media keep banging on about it now they will be the bad guys carrying out a witch hunt against him.
I agree, but when has that ever stopped them?
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Re: cummings
« Reply #99 on: 25 May 2020, 17:34:12 »

I was mowing the lawn.
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« Reply #100 on: 25 May 2020, 18:17:43 »

I said my piece on the matter yesterday :-X
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« Reply #101 on: 25 May 2020, 18:29:39 »

He's got to go as he has become a political liability to Boris, and a gift to the opposition.
So, go man, go!! >:( >:(

A stupid move, and Cummings must go no matter what was the timeline and facts around the case.

Get rid of Cummings and Boris has got rid of the unnecessary distraction ;)

Isn't it annoying how the sheep can jump to conclusions and pull the trigger before hearing the facts?

Well, now after hearing the man what do we all think..................?

I must admit that for me his explanation seems fair enough in terms of two very important aspects;  first the security risk to his family, who were showing virus symptoms, by staying in his London home after having, he claims, threats made against him - then the risk and circumstances when up in Durham, but him staying in a separate house, isolated on private property.

So on balance, it is a great pity all this did not come out for the public days ago and his news conference was not before his boss's yesterday. But he is a human being, and we can make bad judgements; he acted as he felt best, even though perhaps he could have handled it better.

It's lucky you don't have a gun, Ms Zoom!  ::)
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Re: cummings
« Reply #102 on: 25 May 2020, 18:42:32 »

I think it's time to drop it

I'm sure all of us have visited a castle before now , I know I have

I even paid and went in  :-[

you'd think at £15 odd a head they could get some decent furniture and up to date pictures and stuff , not all that out of date tat   ::)
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« Reply #103 on: 25 May 2020, 18:58:50 »

I think Brendan O'Neill sums it up best:

"The media’s Dominic Cummings story has completely collapsed. He did NOT go to Durham a second time, which was reported on the front page of the Sunday Mirror and the Observer. He did NOT have any physical contact with family members. The police did NOT talk to the Cummings family about the Covid lockdown guidelines. Cummings did NOT carry on doing things that everyone else had stopped doing — he even missed the funeral of his uncle who died from Covid. He did NOT leave his London home for leisure reasons — he left it because he was receiving death threats as a result of media demonisation. He was very ill, his wife was ill, and at one point his child was taken to hospital in an ambulance in Durham.

His family has had a really rough time and the media have told lie after lie about him. The scandal is not Cummings’ behaviour — it is the collapse of ethics and objectivity in the British media."



For me, the final twelve words sum up this despicable witch hunt.   >:( >:(
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« Reply #104 on: 25 May 2020, 19:22:50 »

I think Brendan O'Neill sums it up best:

"The media’s Dominic Cummings story has completely collapsed. He did NOT go to Durham a second time, which was reported on the front page of the Sunday Mirror and the Observer. He did NOT have any physical contact with family members. The police did NOT talk to the Cummings family about the Covid lockdown guidelines. Cummings did NOT carry on doing things that everyone else had stopped doing — he even missed the funeral of his uncle who died from Covid. He did NOT leave his London home for leisure reasons — he left it because he was receiving death threats as a result of media demonisation. He was very ill, his wife was ill, and at one point his child was taken to hospital in an ambulance in Durham.

His family has had a really rough time and the media have told lie after lie about him. The scandal is not Cummings’ behaviour — it is the collapse of ethics and objectivity in the British media."



For me, the final twelve words sum up this despicable witch hunt.   >:( >:(
Ermmmm...yes....but. What's the 'collapse' bit all about? To collapse from suggests that the media once had ethics and objectivity. I'm quite old and I don't remember that.
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