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05omegav6

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Re: Isreal, Hamas, Gaza etc
« Reply #30 on: 29 July 2014, 22:32:48 »

Indeed, the Israelis have had a chip on there shoulders ever since the Egyptians told them to sod off 3500 years ago, whereas eastern europe has only really been a problem since the end of the Austrohungarian (sp?) Empire ::)

Many of the problems in the Middle East are a result of the French and British Pencils arbitrarily redrawing borders after WWI at the expense of an already declining Ottoman Empire as a punishment where they backed the losing side. ???
Just like Africa then...
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« Reply #31 on: 29 July 2014, 23:03:09 »

Indeed, the Israelis have had a chip on there shoulders ever since the Egyptians told them to sod off 3500 years ago, whereas eastern europe has only really been a problem since the end of the Austrohungarian (sp?) Empire ::)

Many of the problems in the Middle East are a result of the French and British Pencils arbitrarily redrawing borders after WWI at the expense of an already declining Ottoman Empire as a punishment where they backed the losing side. ???




 Ottoman empire had no choice at the time..  because winners had decided to chew the empire long time ago.. and they knew it.. and you still owe us 2 warships which has been already paid ;D
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05omegav6

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« Reply #32 on: 29 July 2014, 23:09:05 »

Indeed, the Israelis have had a chip on there shoulders ever since the Egyptians told them to sod off 3500 years ago, whereas eastern europe has only really been a problem since the end of the Austrohungarian (sp?) Empire ::)

Many of the problems in the Middle East are a result of the French and British Pencils arbitrarily redrawing borders after WWI at the expense of an already declining Ottoman Empire as a punishment where they backed the losing side. ???




 Ottoman empire had no choice at the time..  because winners had decided to chew the empire long time ago.. and they knew it.. and you still owe us 2 warships which has been already paid ;D
Tell you what Cem, you can have Cyprus back when Gaza goes nuclear :y
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cem_devecioglu

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« Reply #33 on: 29 July 2014, 23:11:45 »

Indeed, the Israelis have had a chip on there shoulders ever since the Egyptians told them to sod off 3500 years ago, whereas eastern europe has only really been a problem since the end of the Austrohungarian (sp?) Empire ::)

Many of the problems in the Middle East are a result of the French and British Pencils arbitrarily redrawing borders after WWI at the expense of an already declining Ottoman Empire as a punishment where they backed the losing side. ???




 Ottoman empire had no choice at the time..  because winners had decided to chew the empire long time ago.. and they knew it.. and you still owe us 2 warships which has been already paid ;D
Tell you what Cem, you can have Cyprus back when Gaza goes nuclear :y


we already have half ;D :y



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05omegav6

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« Reply #35 on: 30 July 2014, 10:38:12 »

Aren't they now Formerly Known As ISIS ???

More to the point, why the rebranding :-\ did they have an image problem or summat ::)
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« Reply #36 on: 30 July 2014, 10:56:52 »

Aren't they now Formerly Known As ISIS ???

More to the point, why the rebranding :-\ did they have an image problem or summat ::)

Maybe they caught an episode of Archer?
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« Reply #37 on: 30 July 2014, 11:47:23 »

I often wonder what the ordinary Gazan thinks about Hamas continuously prodding their powerful and aggressive next door neighbour!  :-\
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« Reply #38 on: 30 July 2014, 12:38:16 »

I often wonder what the ordinary Gazan thinks about Hamas continuously prodding their powerful and aggressive next door neighbour!  :-\

Finally, of all People Tigger, some more forward thinking. :y

Nobody seems interested in thinking "at what stage could we of done something differant to avoid the inevitable" from the usual course of events. History is the only record we have to help predict the future. History tells as all we need to know.

Then at the appropriate time do the opposite. That being, if your interested in peace that is, stopping the lynch mob mentality. Specifically, allowing the Police to investigate the three boys murders, rather than the entire Isreali community rising up and looking to destroy any opposing person/group/view/terrorist/whatever. To do that, at this point (in the timeline, so to speak) you use your border controls, walls, and armed forces to control YOUR OWN PEOPLE rather than pint the finger at the other side. As they always do if you listen to the interviews of officials on either side.

Then once you have control, find the culprits and put them through legal chanels.


....but no, we never see that. Which makes both sides as bad as each other.




There. That's the Middle East sorted. NEEXT ;D :D ;D
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« Reply #39 on: 30 July 2014, 12:39:24 »

I often wonder what the ordinary Gazan thinks about Hamas continuously prodding their powerful and aggressive next door neighbour!  :-\

.....not much of a prodding, Sir Tig. Something like  99% of the antiquated rockets that Hamas use don't get through. ;)

3 civilian deaths up to now. Hardly comparable with the losses in Palestine is it. :-\




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« Reply #40 on: 30 July 2014, 12:41:15 »

I often wonder what the ordinary Gazan thinks about Hamas continuously prodding their powerful and aggressive next door neighbour!  :-\

Finally, of all People Tigger, some more forward thinking. :y

Nobody seems interested in thinking "at what stage could we of done something differant to avoid the inevitable" from the usual course of events. History is the only record we have to help predict the future. History tells as all we need to know.

Then at the appropriate time do the opposite. That being, if your interested in peace that is, stopping the lynch mob mentality. Specifically, allowing the Police to investigate the three boys murders, rather than the entire Isreali community rising up and looking to destroy any opposing person/group/view/terrorist/whatever. To do that, at this point (in the timeline, so to speak) you use your border controls, walls, and armed forces to control YOUR OWN PEOPLE rather than pint the finger at the other side. As they always do if you listen to the interviews of officials on either side.

Then once you have control, find the culprits and put them through legal chanels.


....but no, we never see that. Which makes both sides as bad as each other.




There. That's the Middle East sorted. NEEXT ;D :D ;D

Don't be so surprised Mr Ropeman. Despite being from Dorset  I hear that Sir Tigger is actually quite bright. ;D
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« Reply #41 on: 30 July 2014, 12:43:14 »

I often wonder what the ordinary Gazan thinks about Hamas continuously prodding their powerful and aggressive next door neighbour!  :-\

.....not much of a prodding, Sir Tig. Something like  99% of the antiquated rockets that Hamas use don't get through. ;)

3 civilian deaths up to now. Hardly comparable with the losses Palestine is it. :-\






But he's absolutely correct Doctor. Hamas have one reason to exist, to poke the wasps nest next door in Isreal.

Ordinary Gazans that just want a peaceful life probably think themselves lucky the Isrealis haven't blown them off the planet by now.
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« Reply #42 on: 30 July 2014, 12:50:07 »

I often wonder what the ordinary Gazan thinks about Hamas continuously prodding their powerful and aggressive next door neighbour!  :-\

.....not much of a prodding, Sir Tig. Something like  99% of the antiquated rockets that Hamas use don't get through. ;)

3 civilian deaths up to now. Hardly comparable with the losses Palestine is it. :-\






But he's absolutely correct Doctor. Hamas have one reason to exist, to poke the wasps nest next door in Isreal.

Ordinary Gazans that just want a peaceful life probably think themselves lucky the Isrealis haven't blown them off the planet by now.

Of course they do. :y

But how is this possible with the blockade? No business.....no money......no homes....no schools for the kids to learn in. Limited food water and electricity. No hospitals. Gaza is a living hell.

Eventually Israel will kill all the people in Gaza and then take the land for themselves..... That is how they work. :-\

 

 
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« Reply #43 on: 30 July 2014, 13:00:59 »


Finally, of all People Tigger, some more forward thinking :y


Don't be so surprised Mr Ropeman. Despite being from Dorset  I hear that Sir Tigger is actually quite bright. ;D

Cheeky buggers!!  >:(  ;D  Oil av ee know, there be a lot ov brain food in these yer carrots we do crunch round yer!  :y
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« Reply #44 on: 30 July 2014, 13:22:14 »


Finally, of all People Tigger, some more forward thinking :y


Don't be so surprised Mr Ropeman. Despite being from Dorset  I hear that Sir Tigger is actually quite bright. ;D

Cheeky buggers!!  >:(  ;D  Oil av ee know, there be a lot ov brain food in these yer carrots we do crunch round yer!  :y

Here in Lincolnshire we are also carrot crunchers. ;D

Most days I can be seen chewing on  a piece of straw whilst walking around with a piglet under my arm. ;)

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