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[tunnie]

more footage on the news today, does look like left hand wing dipped suddenly. 

[Lazydocker]

Sadly death toll now 11 and may rise further. It must have been instant for the poor people in several cars where it sliced off the roofs.

Not sure where you got that from... It didn't slice any roofs off, just sprayed them with burning aviation fuel. The only car that it is confirmed to have struck is the silver Corsa that it crushed.

The rising death toll is very sad though... I believe there are still around 30 people "missing" according to the police records, hence the appeal to update if they have returned.

[Terbs]

This is a very tragic accident........so sad for all the families and those who have lost their lives.
Yes, with all airshows there is an element of risk, but there is with all flying. Recent events in the airline world prove this.
We have had a 737 on the motorway at East Midlands, A40 at Northolt, And narrowly missed a tragic event at Heathrow. Also a car park at Blackbush. Plus many other tragedies around the world.
They are screaming for another runway ay Heathrow. What if, something with 500 people falls out of the sky over London. Will flying be scrapped into Heathrow. The public have no choice in aircraft over London, if the aforementioned happens, after the initial sorrow...all will be forgotten in the interests of profit.
Most airshows are safe. Sadly things do go wrong, as in any walks of life.

[Lazydocker]

The CAA have already imposed new restrictions that mean Aerobatic displays by vintage jets are now a thing of the past. Personally speaking, it seems a shame and a knee jerk reaction to make this decision before the AAIB findings are published, unless there has been a preliminary report that we are unaware of

[Rods2]

This is a very tragic accident........so sad for all the families and those who have lost their lives.
Yes, with all airshows there is an element of risk, but there is with all flying. Recent events in the airline world prove this.
We have had a 737 on the motorway at East Midlands, A40 at Northolt, And narrowly missed a tragic event at Heathrow. Also a car park at Blackbush. Plus many other tragedies around the world.
They are screaming for another runway ay Heathrow. What if, something with 500 people falls out of the sky over London. Will flying be scrapped into Heathrow. The public have no choice in aircraft over London, if the aforementioned happens, after the initial sorrow...all will be forgotten in the interests of profit.
Most airshows are safe. Sadly things do go wrong, as in any walks of life.

I mostly agree with this, where there have not been any bystander fatalities at an airshow in the UK since 1952. But now there has been I think it would be sensible to review the current CAA display rules and see what sensible improvements can be made to diminish the risks to the public still further. Generally when things go wrong, the tragedy is used to review current rules and recommendations are made on how they can be further improved, this is how safety is improved. Shoreham airfield is very small and adjacent to one of the south's busier major roads, With display flying allowing a 1km distance with a 100ft minimum altitude at an air display compared to the normal 500ft minimum, this airfield may in the future fail to meet any revised safety criterion.

Spectators at events like motor racing, airshows etc. are aware and consent to the element of slight danger, innocent people driving down a road don't and the dangers to them must be sensibly minimized.

[Rods2]

The CAA have already imposed new restrictions that mean Aerobatic displays by vintage jets are now a thing of the past. Personally speaking, it seems a shame and a knee jerk reaction to make this decision before the AAIB findings are published, unless there has been a preliminary report that we are unaware of

What they have done is impose a series of temporary restrictions which is normal after an accident and entirely sensible, pending a full review of current air display standards.

When something like this happens, IMO they would have been failing in their duties if they had not imposed some restriction pending a full review of the rules and standards.

[Varche]

Good word is sensible. 

[Lazydocker]

The CAA have already imposed new restrictions that mean Aerobatic displays by vintage jets are now a thing of the past. Personally speaking, it seems a shame and a knee jerk reaction to make this decision before the AAIB findings are published, unless there has been a preliminary report that we are unaware of

What they have done is impose a series of temporary restrictions which is normal after an accident and entirely sensible, pending a full review of current air display standards.

When something like this happens, IMO they would have been failing in their duties if they had not imposed some restriction pending a full review of the rules and standards.

Ahh... That's ok then. Only saw the newsflash briefly.

[05omegav6]

Whilst I agree with the sentiment of your last post, the final sentence is 'dangle berries'... Any where were a road crosses an aircraft approach the roads are suitably signed, whether that be th A23 at Gatwick, the M27 at Southampton, around Hatton Cross and yes the A27 either side of the crash site...

Reverse the wind direction on the day, and it could just have easily been a block of flats on Shoreham beach, or the A259 viaduct, or the Shell garage next to the airfield...

Sadly, shit happens... Sometimes you see it coming and sometimes you don't.

[Rods2]

Preliminary report is that the pilot started the loop at 200ft, which is 300ft below the minimum licensed height of 500ft for such aerobatics!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3222624/There-wrong-vintage-Hawker-Hunter-jet-involved-Shoreham-crash-according-safety-experts-seen-cockpit-footage.html

[GastronomicKleptomaniac]

If it was done deliberately or carelessly, he's beneath contempt. Is it possible that the altimeter could have malfunctioned, or is that covered in the "no defects found"?

[Toledodude1973]

Hoefully the pilot will recover to uncover the truth

[steve6367]

If it was done deliberately or carelessly, he's beneath contempt. Is it possible that the altimeter could have malfunctioned, or is that covered in the "no defects found"?

There was a cockpit camera, so I suspect they would have mentioned a altimeter malfunction in the report.

[GastronomicKleptomaniac]

If it was done deliberately or carelessly, he's beneath contempt. Is it possible that the altimeter could have malfunctioned, or is that covered in the "no defects found"?

There was a cockpit camera, so I suspect they would have mentioned a altimeter malfunction in the report.

I know nothing about planes so I didn't know if an altimeter would be big enough to read on a video?

[steve6367]

It's a primary instrument so not small