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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #390 on: 01 December 2018, 12:18:01 »

I see a minister has resigned over Galileo.

I wonder what the wording of the contract was that allows EU countries to invest in the project (UK share I believe so far 1.4 billion of taxpayers money- £25 for every man, woman and child) and then because they are leaving not be included in the project anymore AND not get their money back! How easily we just roll over when the numbers involved are large and yet if we had been seen off for 1.2 million on say an aircraft deal there would have been a public outcry.

I said right from the outset that getting every penny of our money back (where it is possible) should have been part of our negotiating strategy, even if it meant forcing the sale of assets. We might not necessarily have used it. It would have been interesting getting an ECJ ruling on the subject. The resigning minister pointed out just how ruthless the EU are in negotiations (and I suspect he is a remainer not that it matters).
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #391 on: 01 December 2018, 12:23:06 »

(and I suspect he is a remainer not that it matters).
He is.
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #392 on: 02 December 2018, 20:04:18 »

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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #393 on: 02 December 2018, 20:54:23 »

Three possible outcomes now.
1. The Tories grasp the nettle, get rid of May and replace her with a Brexiteer who goes back to Brussels and at least attempts to kick some arse.
2. She carries on regardless, loses the vote in the commons, and while they all argue about it, the clock runs out and we leave without a deal - initially at least.
3. The establishment finally win and overturn the referendum result,(while denying they have done it)  thus killing any pretence of democracy in the UK, permanently.

We shall see.  :-\
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #394 on: 02 December 2018, 21:22:31 »

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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #396 on: 02 December 2018, 22:32:00 »

Gove doesn't seem like such of a brexiteer to me. ::) ::)Quite the opposite in fact.

Looking for his chance to take the reins, I think.
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #397 on: 02 December 2018, 23:27:46 »

Yes marvellous politician. He could adapt to lead any party even Christmas or office.
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #398 on: 02 December 2018, 23:35:56 »

Career before country every time for that little sh1t.  ::)
Hopefully when Treasons deal hits the buffers, so will his career.  :)
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #400 on: 03 December 2018, 05:44:09 »

Rochdale... Is that anywhere near Rotherham  :-\
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #401 on: 03 December 2018, 09:28:41 »

3. The establishment finally win and overturn the referendum result,(while denying they have done it)  thus killing any pretence of democracy in the UK, permanently.

I cannot understand why people think that the issue of EU membership will go away if, for whatever reason, it doesn't happen.  This shows ignorance on the part of those who want a second vote on the subject, they seem to think that everyone who wants/wanted out will simply go quietly in to the night?

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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #402 on: 03 December 2018, 10:04:19 »

The EU and our membership of it (or lack of), will always be like a scab that's continually picked and never heals in this country.  :(
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #403 on: 03 December 2018, 11:36:11 »

The EU and our membership of it (or lack of), will always be like a scab that's continually picked and never heals in this country.  :(

I had a cream prescribed by the doctor and never went anywhere near the skanky mare again.
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #404 on: 03 December 2018, 13:23:12 »

3. The establishment finally win and overturn the referendum result,(while denying they have done it)  thus killing any pretence of democracy in the UK, permanently.

I cannot understand why people think that the issue of EU membership will go away if, for whatever reason, it doesn't happen.  This shows ignorance on the part of those who want a second vote on the subject, they seem to think that everyone who wants/wanted out will simply go quietly in to the night?

I would assume that they simply don't care. They think that 17.5 million people are either ignorant racists or extremely gullible, and not worth concerning themselves with.
The only thing that matters is staying in their beloved union, as the world will stop turning if we don't.
I was speaking to a Liberal Democrat about it last week. He kept banging on about "a peoples vote". When I offered the opinion that this would cancel out the previous vote and therefore effectively kill off Democracy, he said "we haven't always had democracy, so we could do without it again. Its not the be all and end all you know".
I was lost for words at that point and walked away.  ;D
But that's how obsessed these people can be. Its like religious fervour that cant be reasoned with.
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