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Re: Gig/zero hour economy
« Reply #15 on: 23 August 2019, 19:09:44 »

Define middle aged  wealthy ;D


FTFY.
You've got to have standards....
Debt free, paid for house and preferably unmodified... Southern would also be good... Those damn Unionists are a bit too up themselves  :D
the house or the tits  :-\
Not the house ;D

Although if she's a mature lady a bit of modification can be a good thing.  ::) 

A nip, tuck, tighten and a lift here and there.  :)
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Re: Gig/zero hour economy
« Reply #16 on: 23 August 2019, 19:18:07 »

Define middle aged  wealthy ;D


FTFY.
You've got to have standards....
Debt free, paid for house and preferably unmodified... Southern would also be good... Those damn Unionists are a bit too up themselves  :D
the house or the tits  :-\
Not the house ;D

Although if she's a mature lady a bit of modification can be a good thing.  ::) 

A nip, tuck, tighten and a lift here and there.  :)
Indeed  :y
also check ... she was a woman to start with  ;D

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Re: Gig/zero hour economy
« Reply #17 on: 23 August 2019, 19:51:06 »

Define middle aged  wealthy ;D


FTFY.
You've got to have standards....
Debt free, paid for house and preferably unmodified... Southern would also be good... Those damn Unionists are a bit too up themselves  :D
the house or the tits  :-\
Not the house ;D

Although if she's a mature lady a bit of modification can be a good thing.  ::) 

A nip, tuck, tighten and a lift here and there.  :)
Indeed  :y
also check ... she was a woman to start with  ;D

I believe that Lord Opti likes the idea of a Ladyboy.  :)

Did he say that he's going to Thailand on holiday soon?  ???  :-\   ::)
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Re: Gig/zero hour economy
« Reply #18 on: 23 August 2019, 19:59:15 »

Getting back to Varche's serious subject........

Zero contracts are immoral and should have no place in our society.  I used to issue, or have issued, hundreds of contracts which were for fixed hours. They conformed completely to Employment Law, and gave our workers the rights they deserved, that had been fought hard for over many decades, with full Union involvement. We, the employer, lived by those rights and still our business was very successful.

To expect anyone to be loyal and committed to an organisation that gives them no security or loyalty is plain wrong. How can that be good for business?  We relied totally on the loyalty, commitment and honesty of our staff to do the job in hand and produce, by way of good application, the final profits we all required to keep our jobs. With zero hours contracts the business is going to lose that valuable staff input, and weaken it's ability to produce sustainability. Any business that cannot support fully retained, on fixed hour contracts, and honouring Employment Law and Rights is not worth it.

No, the Employement Laws must again be tightened to give anyone applying themselves, and worthy of any position within a business, their full rights with fixed hours contracts. The business, management, and staff then can have no doubt about when and how everyone is employed with loyalty shown in every direction.

Zero contracts must be made illegal. ;)
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Re: Gig/zero hour economy
« Reply #19 on: 23 August 2019, 21:03:29 »

The MSM have depicted zero hour contracts as a Tory invention, but they have been around a lot longer than people think and I had a job with one for a couple of years around 2003/4.  ;)  Luckily the company was usually busy, so I rarely had any downtime.  :y

The worst aspect of the contract was that if the company didn't need me, I wasn't supposed to work elsewhere. I think they expected me to sit by the phone just in case.  ::) 

Sod that, I went off agency driving on the odd occasions it happened.  ;)
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Re: Gig/zero hour economy
« Reply #20 on: 23 August 2019, 23:20:54 »

It is a funny thing. The haves are quite happy to spend a tenner on say a Costa coffee and cake despite knowing the workers are treated badly with things like having training costs deducted from pay.

It is like a two tier society.
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Re: Gig/zero hour economy
« Reply #21 on: 24 August 2019, 00:56:26 »

I have a 40 hour contract, but it is neither permanent nor guaranteed and I fully expect to get a phone call or email on Oct 31st asking for my uniform back ::)

That said, being am agency employee there's nothing to stop me taking extra shifts doing baggage resilience for rival companies ;D

A proper contract buys a lot of loyalty, the mere promise of one does not...
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Re: Gig/zero hour economy
« Reply #22 on: 24 August 2019, 06:48:53 »

I have a 40 hour contract, but it is neither permanent nor guaranteed and I fully expect to get a phone call or email on Oct 31st asking for my uniform back ::)

That said, being am agency employee there's nothing to stop me taking extra shifts doing baggage resilience for rival companies ;D

A proper contract buys a lot of loyalty, the mere promise of one does not...
Something else is happening October 31st. It's slipped my mind for the moment.
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Re: Gig/zero hour economy
« Reply #23 on: 24 August 2019, 08:47:32 »

You forgot the end of the world 🌍
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Re: Gig/zero hour economy
« Reply #24 on: 24 August 2019, 09:30:51 »

I have a 40 hour contract, but it is neither permanent nor guaranteed and I fully expect to get a phone call or email on Oct 31st asking for my uniform back ::)

That said, being am agency employee there's nothing to stop me taking extra shifts doing baggage resilience for rival companies ;D

A proper contract buys a lot of loyalty, the mere promise of one does not...
Something else is happening October 31st. It's slipped my mind for the moment.
That's because you left in March ;D
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Re: Gig/zero hour economy
« Reply #25 on: 24 August 2019, 09:47:46 »

The MSM have depicted zero hour contracts as a Tory invention, but they have been around a lot longer than people think and I had a job with one for a couple of years around 2003/4.  ;)  Luckily the company was usually busy, so I rarely had any downtime.  :y

The worst aspect of the contract was that if the company didn't need me, I wasn't supposed to work elsewhere. I think they expected me to sit by the phone just in case.  ::) 

Sod that, I went off agency driving on the odd occasions it happened.  ;)


Very true. Labour said they were evil and only used by exploitative greedy employers, unacceptable face of Capitalism  blah blah blah, and, that they would outlaw them

Then someone discovered that over 60 Labour MP,s were employing people on zero hour contracts.  ;D ;D
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Re: Gig/zero hour economy
« Reply #26 on: 24 August 2019, 10:12:38 »

The MSM have depicted zero hour contracts as a Tory invention, but they have been around a lot longer than people think and I had a job with one for a couple of years around 2003/4.  ;)  Luckily the company was usually busy, so I rarely had any downtime.  :y

The worst aspect of the contract was that if the company didn't need me, I wasn't supposed to work elsewhere. I think they expected me to sit by the phone just in case.  ::) 

Sod that, I went off agency driving on the odd occasions it happened.  ;)


Very true. Labour said they were evil and only used by exploitative greedy employers, unacceptable face of Capitalism  blah blah blah, and, that they would outlaw them

Then someone discovered that over 60 Labour MP,s were employing people on zero hour contracts.  ;D ;D

Yep, there is no such thing as a true, to all principles, Socialist. Hypocrites everyone one of them! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;)

That is why I class myself as a Red Conservative, as I believe in a lot of Socialist theories and principles, but recognise that in practice the application of Conservatism is best overall.  A lot of that comes from growing up in a politically mixed family, with some extreme views, and I picked the middle route (well, usually!! ::) ::) ) :D :D :)
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Re: Gig/zero hour economy
« Reply #27 on: 24 August 2019, 10:25:39 »

Capitalism / conservatism is perfectly compatible with an outlook of being caring and decent. For a long time the left have tried to convince the world that they have ownership of these things and Capitalism is evil. In my experience in the real world, the truth is very often close to the complete opposite.
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« Reply #28 on: 24 August 2019, 11:54:41 »

Capitalism / conservatism is perfectly compatible with an outlook of being caring and decent. For a long time the left have tried to convince the world that they have ownership of these things and Capitalism is evil. In my experience in the real world, the truth is very often close to the complete opposite.
Indeed, most philanthropists are self made hard core capitalists ;)
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