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[grifter]

Hi

At the top corners the surround rubber on the screen is loose and won't push back in. I'm wondering if at some point a new windscreen has been put in and the surround not put back in right. Picture not the best as took at dusk.



How do I get this back into place?

Cheers

G

[Entwood]

If memory has any accuracy I think it is a sort of thin double sided tape they use .... but its a while since I watched them do it ...

[grifter]

If memory has any accuracy I think it is a sort of thin double sided tape they use .... but its a while since I watched them do it ...

I think I do see some sort of tape remnants in there, although don't want to pull it back too far in case it comes out further.

There is tape listed here so maybe that is what I need - no 16:

http://ecat24.com/opel/catalog/part/1/30/57/3217/33732,33737,33735,33734,33733,33736/

[Doctor Gollum]

Nope. Nope and nope.

The screen has a frame fitted to it. Prior to fitting the screen, the frame is fitted, followed by the two rubber trims. The screen is then fitted.

There are two possible reasons why your trim is lifting...

1. The frame has been reused and the clips are broken.
2. A cheap pattern frame has been fitted, no pun intended.

In either case if the screen isn't spot on in the aperture then it won't fit properly and your picture is the result.

[grifter]

Nope. Nope and nope.

The screen has a frame fitted to it. Prior to fitting the screen, the frame is fitted, followed by the two rubber trims. The screen is then fitted.

There are two possible reasons why your trim is lifting...

1. The frame has been reused and the clips are broken.
2. A cheap pattern frame has been fitted, no pun intended.

In either case if the screen isn't spot on in the aperture then it won't fit properly and your picture is the result.

Had a bit more of a peer in and can see V shaped section on back of trim with horizontal clips, they looked shagged out/mashed shut. Likely need to remove the whole thing to have a better look, and judging by the state of the trim replace it, that is if frame is ok.

[Lazydocker]

Nope. Nope and nope.

The screen has a frame fitted to it. Prior to fitting the screen, the frame is fitted, followed by the two rubber trims. The screen is then fitted.

There are two possible reasons why your trim is lifting...

1. The frame has been reused and the clips are broken.
2. A cheap pattern frame has been fitted, no pun intended.

In either case if the screen isn't spot on in the aperture then it won't fit properly and your picture is the result.

Had a bit more of a peer in and can see V shaped section on back of trim with horizontal clips, they looked shagged out/mashed shut. Likely need to remove the whole thing to have a better look, and judging by the state of the trim replace it, that is if frame is ok.

Only fix is a replacement screen and trim... No other course of action will work, unless you bodge it by using glue to stick it down.

[steve6367]

Nope. Nope and nope.

The screen has a frame fitted to it. Prior to fitting the screen, the frame is fitted, followed by the two rubber trims. The screen is then fitted.

There are two possible reasons why your trim is lifting...

1. The frame has been reused and the clips are broken.
2. A cheap pattern frame has been fitted, no pun intended.

In either case if the screen isn't spot on in the aperture then it won't fit properly and your picture is the result.

Exactly that - I've had no trim on mine for months since Autoglass replaced my screen as it simply won't stay and they don't care.  In my case it's option 2.

[Lazydocker]

Nope. Nope and nope.

The screen has a frame fitted to it. Prior to fitting the screen, the frame is fitted, followed by the two rubber trims. The screen is then fitted.

There are two possible reasons why your trim is lifting...

1. The frame has been reused and the clips are broken.
2. A cheap pattern frame has been fitted, no pun intended.

In either case if the screen isn't spot on in the aperture then it won't fit properly and your picture is the result.

Exactly that - I've had no trim on mine for months since Autoglass replaced my screen as it simply won't stay and they don't care.  In my case it's option 2.

Don't accept "not caring" as an answer. You've (insurance company) paid a vastly inflated fee for a service. If Autoglass refuse to repair it under their guarantee then go to your insurance company.

[ajsphead]

Had exactly the same problem with a replacement screen from autoglass with all new trims. Thought I'd sorted it by warming the rubber then massaging into the recess. A couple of trips up the motorway soon dispelled that myth and have had to glue it in place. No problems since.

[amba]

My screen has a large crack in the passenger side bottom corner and what with being busy at work and not wanting it done in the colder months have been putting of its replacement,albeit insurance cover is inplace except my excess.

Question is :
When a new screen is fitted should the entire trim be replaced as part of the procedure and as such is covered under the terms of the insurance claim.

[Doctor Gollum]

Yes as it's part of the screen assembly 

Usual excuses range from the screen has been stolen/no trims to we never replace them...

Whatever parts the use, the frame gets fitted to the screen then the rubber gets fitted to the frame and then the screen is fitted. Any deviation from this and the screen either sits proud or too low... in which case the rubber either tears out in the airflow or cannot be fitted, respectively. Either way it's screen out to fix

Under no circumstances should you presume that they actually know what they are doing.

[amba]

Thanks Al.

Is there a more reliable/likely to give me less of an argument supplier..Autoglass etc ??

[Doctor Gollum]

Go independent won't be an insurance job though, so you'll pay retail... flip side is you'll get a better job done and the insurers can't then bend you over for it come renewal... typically £120-160.

Personally, I would use these guys...

link removed

[robson]

I agree go to an independent I was quoted a ridiculous amount for a replacement an independent did it for £65.00.

[tigers_gonads]

Go independent won't be an insurance job though, so you'll pay retail... flip side is you'll get a better job done and the insurers can't then bend you over for it come renewal... typically £120-160.

Personally, I would use these guys...

WARNING

Just clicked on Al's link and windows defender went ape shit.

Trojan.win32/SnaekeXes.A

[amba]

No such issues opening web page here .

Thanks Al....just found insurance doc from Admiral and excess is £90  so might get a quote from your suggested place...I will argue the case with insurance company that want it done right as had issues with glaziers before and see if they play ball

[Doctor Gollum]

Eek, that not good

Addison Glass and Windscreen.

175 Walnut Tree Close
Guildford
GU1 4TX
01483 538430

[amba]

Just emailed them Al,see what they say as my policy doesn't seem to specify who does the work

[grifter]

Looks like I'll need to wait until I accidentally elbow the screen then

[VXL V6]

Looks like I'll need to wait until I accidentally elbow the screen then

Prepare yourself for a long wait if your vehicle has a heat reflective screen with rain sensor fixing.

[Doctor Gollum]

Go independent won't be an insurance job though, so you'll pay retail... flip side is you'll get a better job done and the insurers can't then bend you over for it come renewal... typically £120-160.

Personally, I would use these guys...

Addison Glass and Windscreen.

175 Walnut Tree Close
Guildford
GU1 4TX
01483 538430

They do have a Web site and email address, links nuked just in case.

I have used them for their windscreen services, not their Internet ones

[neil74]

My seal doesn't fit now that autoglass has replaced my screen..

[Doctor Gollum]

My seal doesn't fit now that autoglass has replaced my screen..

See my earlier posts..

[amba]

For a correct screen replacement should all visual trims be replaced as part of the insurance claim?

Accept the bottom trim wont be replaced ,just original refitted,but am I understanding that the screen fits into a metal cradle which gets renewed then sealed into the car.Then the curved external rubber seal is also renewed.

[Nick W]

For a correct screen replacement should all visual trims be replaced as part of the insurance claim?

Accept the bottom trim wont be replaced ,just original refitted,but am I understanding that the screen fits into a metal cradle which gets renewed then sealed into the car.Then the curved external rubber seal is also renewed.

mine was done by Autoglass 3 weeks ago. The cradle was replaced, but the trim wasn't. It now fits better than it did before, and doesn't vibrate at speed. The damaged screen(cracked and delaminated in the lower N/S corner and a couple of stone chips) was the original. I was surprised that the scuttle didn't need to come off, and relieved there was only light surface rust in the surround. The fitter cleaned and painted that without being prompted.

[amba]

Cheers Nick...done at the road side or at their premises?

[Nick W]

At home.


Quick review: the fitter was excellent once Autoglass eventually managed to make the appointment.

[amba]

Thanks ...will get onto them next week then as easier at home

[Lazydocker]

At home.


Quick review: the fitter was excellent once Autoglass eventually managed to make the appointment.

This is it... If you get a decent fitter all is good

[Doctor Gollum]

My last had two senior fitters, yet Autoglass still owe me a screen

Took them three visits to provide the correct screen AND fit it correctly...

[ajsphead]

Thanks ...will get onto them next week then as easier at home

Mine also went bottom left corner. Be prepared for a de-rusting job while the screen is out. It's upward pressure from rust blisters that cause the screen to crack. Could be anything from a light brush off to getting the welder out - guess which one mine was. Autoglass were very good however and allowed all the time needed (2 evenings of grinding, treating and welding and time for each treatment to go off) and also gave me some very good advice about the best surface to leave the fitter with to ensure a good bond of the new screen. This was a couple of years ago and no other problems since. I am an extremely picky sort so probably went overboard but don't intend to ever do the job again.