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[biggriffin]

I see the boys have upset the pink police and gaurdian,,, carry on boys it's dam funny.
Bloody snowflakes are always offended by something

  https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/31/lazy-homophobia-the-grand-tour-jeremy-clarkson-amazon?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fcommentisfree%2F2019%2Fjan%2F31%2Flazy-homophobia-the-grand-tour-jeremy-clarkson-amazon

[Lizzie Zoom]

Sorry but Clarkson has just shown how childish and immature he is by such schoolboy antics.

One day he will grow up!

[STEMO]

He'll stop doing it when he stops getting paid good money to do it.

[Lizzie Zoom]

He'll stop doing it when he stops getting paid good money to do it.

Yeah, how very true Steve!!  

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Sorry but Clarkson has just shown how childish and immature he is by such schoolboy antics.

One day he will grow up! :

Doubt it, Lizzie........but I find him funny because he is not PC.

I'm sure there are plenty of easily 'offended' liberal mangina's who are constantly tutting and wringing their hands.

[STEMO]

Sorry but Clarkson has just shown how childish and immature he is by such schoolboy antics.

One day he will grow up! :

Doubt it, Lizzie........but I find him funny because he is not PC.

I'm sure there are plenty of easily 'offended' liberal mangina's who are constantly tutting and wringing their hands.

Follow the link in the article that says 'highlighted on Twitter'. Quite a few comments that you'd agree with.

[Doctor Gollum]

For someone who doesn't wear pink shirts, Willy Ung appears to possess at least 4... Must be a collector

[78bex]

For someone who doesn't wear pink shirts, Willy Ung appears to possess at least 4... Must be a collector

Now why did I read that as "pink shorts" on twitter, is that a freudian slip    

[TheBoy]

One day he will grow up!

I hope not. His (lack of) PC is refreshing in this current world.

People that easily offended need to be shown what real offence is. Then culled.

[Bigron]

TB, when you are in charge, could we have a new law, giving us the RIGHT to offend, please? 

Ron.

[TheBoy]

TB, when you are in charge, could we have a new law, giving us the RIGHT to offend, please? 

Ron.

Granted.

[Lizzie Zoom]

TB, when you are in charge, could we have a new law, giving us the RIGHT to offend, please? 

Ron.

Granted.

So when we start to repeat history and have the right to offend people who are Jewish, Irish, black, disabled, gay, foreign, do not believe in your politics and start culling ( a word often used (jokingly??) on some of the OOF threads) people, women, children, men, by sending them to gas chambers you will be happy?

I do not wish to become too heavy and so serious on this subject, but that is why we have the laws we do and thank God we do or we could go back to Nazi Germany in 1938.  That all started at the end of the 1920's with jokes, then insults, then attacks about and on the Jews, then spread to everyone who did not fit in. Yes, this IS the extreme, but over thousands of years this is what has happened and caused wars and we must be conscious about the dangers in "jokes" of this type that escalated.

You may all find your, and that Clarkson comments, funny and irrelevant, but there is a very serious side to it.  Also remember, as TB himself pointed out recently, many people view this website, and from around the globe, who do not share this so called "British sense of humour".

Just pointing this out to keep peoples feet on the ground.  That is why I do not find that clowns comments funny.





 

[TheBoy]

The Nazi's problem (well, one of so very many) was they singled out based on religious beliefs.

I wouldn't be so strict.  Anyone has the potential to be on the cull list.  Black, white, male, female, young, old, gay, straight, faith believers or otherwise.


From all the pointless, stupid diversity style courses I've had to endure, that's not discrimination.



But, being serious for a minute, we have gone way, way, way too far the other way in the last 20 years.  And this has had a dramatic impact on those that have grown up with this do-gooding, everyone is a winner, pathetic society.  If you saw the quality of 95% of the apprentices put in front of us, you'd grasp it.  They tend no to last, run out crying back to mummy, when I tell them the (simple, easy, quick) tasks I give them are a higher priority than sitting on arsebook.  I'd hazard a guess that most of them are just starting a career on benefits.

I do believe in corporal punishment at school, and parents should smack their children. Naughty Step? Yeah, right.

[Doctor Gollum]

FFS If he and those of his ilk genuinely offend you, then pay them no heed.

It's not rocket science. Hell, it's Common Sense 101

Some examples:

I find Steve Coogan to be a smug, unfunny, fauxcialist Manc ladybits...Ergo, I haven't watched anything he has done since Alan Partridge...

Likewise Ricky Gervais and most every Labour MP since reaching voting age.

[Steve B]

FFS If he and those of his ilk genuinely offend you, then pay them no heed.

It's not rocket science. Hell, it's Common Sense 101

Some examples:

I find Steve Coogan to be a smug, unfunny, fauxcialist Manc ladybits...Ergo, I haven't watched anything he has done since Alan Partridge...

Likewise Ricky Gervais and most every Labour MP since reaching voting age.

Take it You have gone off Diane. 

[Rods2]

My wife hates dealing with authority and won't engage in politics. When I questioned was this a deliberate policy, she said yes as that is how there family survived in the USSR by being as low a profile and anonymous as possible. I said, you mean you didn't want to end up on the wrong list. No, we didn't want to be on any list as last weeks good list could be next weeks fulfil the regimes punishment quota list.

The local political commissioner was like a semi-god as your life was in his hands. If you upset him your family was an enemy of the state, not pay a big enough annual bribe, your family was an enemy of the state, he fancied your mother/wife/sister/daughter and they didn't oblige, your family was an enemy of the state. The family would then be arrested or more likely just disappear to never to be seen again.

When TB jokes about culling as the real power is not in who is the bagman with the gun and a set of orders, but as I've said before, the real power is who decides who goes on the lists and why? The quickest way to wipe out humanity would be for everybody to cull everybody that offends anybody in thought, word or deed as everybody would have culled everybody else in a few days.

In the decadent west we have the luxury of democracy, laws, an independent judiciary and human rights with most people insulated with what really happens in dictatorships where the ruling regime have the total power over everything, including the monopoly on legal state violence which in practice means everything is leased to you by the state, everything, including you life. Any lease can be terminated without notice, at any time, with no right of appeal.

Good examples of the constant and excessive use of 'legal' state violence are: Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia, DPRK & Russia (especially Ramzan Kadyrov in Chechnya & the annexed Donbas (DNR/LNR) and Crimea regions in Ukraine).

[Doctor Gollum]

FFS If he and those of his ilk genuinely offend you, then pay them no heed.

It's not rocket science. Hell, it's Common Sense 101

Some examples:

I find Steve Coogan to be a smug, unfunny, fauxcialist Manc ladybits...Ergo, I haven't watched anything he has done since Alan Partridge...

Likewise Ricky Gervais and most every Labour MP since reaching voting age.

Take it You have gone off Diane. 

I wouldn't touch that with yours. Even when drunk...

[Lizzie Zoom]

FFS If he and those of his ilk genuinely offend you, then pay them no heed.

It's not rocket science. Hell, it's Common Sense 101

Some examples:

I find Steve Coogan to be a smug, unfunny, fauxcialist Manc ladybits...Ergo, I haven't watched anything he has done since Alan Partridge...

Likewise Ricky Gervais and most every Labour MP since reaching voting age.

I understand where you and others are coming from DG and appreciate it would be a very sad country if we stopped friendly banter.  I indeed just have stopped watching JC as you suggest, and do that with anyone I find unpalatable.

No, I just worry when some talk about the pendulum swinging too far the other way, which to be honest I even think has at times.  BUT, we must never let that pendulum go back to the days I remember when adults 'joked' about filthy Pakis, coons, niggers, poofs, thick Irish, thieving scousers, queers, etc., etc, and sending them all back to where they came from, or even worse!!  We must never go back there in the 21st century, although in some circles all that language and attitude is still alive and kicking, hence the far hard right political groups seemingly thriving.

(I am now going to apologize in advance if any of that has offended anyone anywhere the OOF goes, but I have to do that to highlight what it could all be like AGAIN if we went back there).

That is all I was emphasing.

[Bigron]

FFS If he and those of his ilk genuinely offend you, then pay them no heed.

It's not rocket science. Hell, it's Common Sense 101

Some examples:

I find Steve Coogan to be a smug, unfunny, fauxcialist Manc ladybits...Ergo, I haven't watched anything he has done since Alan Partridge...

Likewise Ricky Gervais and most every Labour MP since reaching voting age.

I understand where you and others are coming from DG and appreciate it would be a very sad country if we stopped friendly banter.  I indeed just have stopped watching JC as you suggest, and do that with anyone I find unpalatable.

No, I just worry when some talk about the pendulum swinging too far the other way, which to be honest I even think has at times.  BUT, we must never let that pendulum go back to the days I remember when adults 'joked' about filthy Pakis, coons, niggers, poofs, thick Irish, thieving scousers, queers, etc., etc, and sending them all back to where they came from, or even worse!!  We must never go back there in the 21st century, although in some circles all that language and attitude is still alive and kicking, hence the far hard right political groups seemingly thriving.

(I am now going to apologize in advance if any of that has offended anyone anywhere the OOF goes, but I have to do that to highlight what it could all be like AGAIN if we went back there).

That is all I was emphasing.

Just as a slighht aside, Lizzie, do you remember when one of the Richards company's products was labelled "Thick Irish Pork Sausages"?
After protests (by the Irish?), they were re-labelled "Irish Thick Pork Sausages".
No offence meant to Albs....

Ron.

[Lizzie Zoom]

FFS If he and those of his ilk genuinely offend you, then pay them no heed.

It's not rocket science. Hell, it's Common Sense 101

Some examples:

I find Steve Coogan to be a smug, unfunny, fauxcialist Manc ladybits...Ergo, I haven't watched anything he has done since Alan Partridge...

Likewise Ricky Gervais and most every Labour MP since reaching voting age.

I understand where you and others are coming from DG and appreciate it would be a very sad country if we stopped friendly banter.  I indeed just have stopped watching JC as you suggest, and do that with anyone I find unpalatable.

No, I just worry when some talk about the pendulum swinging too far the other way, which to be honest I even think has at times.  BUT, we must never let that pendulum go back to the days I remember when adults 'joked' about filthy Pakis, coons, niggers, poofs, thick Irish, thieving scousers, queers, etc., etc, and sending them all back to where they came from, or even worse!!  We must never go back there in the 21st century, although in some circles all that language and attitude is still alive and kicking, hence the far hard right political groups seemingly thriving.

(I am now going to apologize in advance if any of that has offended anyone anywhere the OOF goes, but I have to do that to highlight what it could all be like AGAIN if we went back there).

That is all I was emphasing.

Just as a slighht aside, Lizzie, do you remember when one of the Richards company's products was labelled "Thick Irish Pork Sausages"?
After protests (by the Irish?), they were re-labelled "Irish Thick Pork Sausages".
No offence meant to Albs....

Ron.

Yep, and like with Golliwogs no one thought anything about it to start with!

[Bigron]

As a child, I collected the gollies that came with the jars of jam, saving them up to swap for an enamel Golliwog badge!

Ron.

[STEMO]

I get called a thieving scouser on here all the time.  I wouldn't mind, but most people from Liverpool are fine, upstanding citizens, only to glad to help folk............






Left wide open for Opti.

[Andy B]

I get called a thieving scouser on here all the time.  I wouldn't mind, but most people from Liverpool are fine, upstanding citizens, only to glad to help folk............






Left wide open for Opti.

[Olympia5776]

What about us Jocks , I'm offended that we huvnae been ufended.
Freedom.......!

[Lizzie Zoom]

I get called a thieving scouser on here all the time.  I wouldn't mind, but most people from Liverpool are fine, upstanding citizens, only to glad to help folk............


Left wide open for Opti.

.......and that is exactly what I have found in Liverpool, around it, and along with all the Liverpudlians I have known in my life!

[Lizzie Zoom]

What about us Jocks , I'm offended that we huvnae been ufended.
Freedom.......!

That is because Scots are respected in England, in spite of all the jokes and hype over the years.

[STEMO]

What about us Jocks , I'm offended that we huvnae been ufended.
Freedom.......!

When I was in the army, Jocks, Geordies and Scousers seemed to be drawn to each other. And we always got the blame for all the drunkenness and cracked skulls. Can't think why 

[Lizzie Zoom]

The Nazi's problem (well, one of so very many) was they singled out based on religious beliefs.

No, that is not true.  The Jews were singled out for their heavy involvement and control of money and business, being seen as greedy rats who had and still were eating away at the German wealth and had impoverished the Aryan race with massive unemployment and inflation. 

The Communists came next as a political threat from a sector of the German society at opposite ends of the belief system to the Nazis, and being anti-German, more in keeping with the dreaded enemy, Stalin's USSR.

Then came the Unionists who fought for individual workers rights and spoke up against National Socialism, that believed in the collective National whole not the individual and their "rights", which to the Nazis had no place in their Germany.

Then came anyone who was a democrat, liberal, or generally not a Nazi, and believed in free political speech.

The rest were anyone who was non-Aryan, disabled, homosexual, or just perceived as being a sub-human individual, with others who were seen as a threat to the Nazis and / or tried to help those being persecuted by the Nazis.

That of course shows the very negative effect of a political system that disallows free speech for it's own political National Socialist aims, the NSDAP

Religion did not feature in the Nazi cause generally, although the SS with Himler were well into the occult!

[Doctor Gollum]

The Austrians still practice active social discrimination of the mentioned groups...

Just saying

[STEMO]

The Austrians still practice active social discrimination of the mentioned groups...

Just saying

Disgusting!!

How are the house prices there? 

[Doctor Gollum]

Expensive 

[STEMO]

Expensive 

Not surprised, with the likes of Clarkson, Hammond and May living there. 

[Lizzie Zoom]

Expensive 

Not surprised, with the likes of Clarkson, Hammond and May living there. 

That's probably why they are suffering from weather extremes!  47 degrees recently, due to all that hot air from JC!

[ronnyd]

47c in Austria, hmm. 

[STEMO]

47c in Austria, hmm. 

Austria, Australia.......easily confused 

[Doctor Gollum]

Both a bit odd too

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

TB, when you are in charge, could we have a new law, giving us the RIGHT to offend, please? 

Ron.

Granted.

You are now free to refer to TB as a fat bastard.

[Sir Tigger KC]

TB, when you are in charge, could we have a new law, giving us the RIGHT to offend, please? 

Ron.

Granted.

You are now free to refer to TB as a fat bastard.

Most Dictators are slightly irrational, so expect random exceptions to that ruling. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

TB, when you are in charge, could we have a new law, giving us the RIGHT to offend, please? 

Ron.

Granted.

You are now free to refer to TB as a fat bastard.

Most Dictators are slightly irrational, so expect random exceptions to that ruling. 

Being a dictator means he could take Shami C against her will.

[Lizzie Zoom]

47c in Austria, hmm. 

No, 47 degrees in AUSTRALIA:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/feb/01/january-named-as-australias-hottest-month-on-record


......... And so I am sure JC is there
 

[STEMO]

47c in Austria, hmm. 

No, 47 degrees in AUSTRALIA:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/feb/01/january-named-as-australias-hottest-month-on-record


......... And so I am sure JC is there
 

Yes, we know. But we were talking about Austria.

[Lizzie Zoom]

47c in Austria, hmm. 

No, 47 degrees in AUSTRALIA:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/feb/01/january-named-as-australias-hottest-month-on-record


......... And so I am sure JC is there
 

Yes, we know. But we were talking about Austria.

Yes, I know you were, but I thought it would be good to bring in Australia as it is away from me talking about the obvious......a little vulgar Austrian corporal.......and anyway first of all I read Australia instead of Austria when trying to read without my glasses!

Anyway talking about Australia means nothing about Brexit can be implied!

[Doctor Gollum]

WTO rules

[Lizzie Zoom]

WTO rules

Oh, well, yes OK

[TheBoy]

TB, when you are in charge, could we have a new law, giving us the RIGHT to offend, please? 

Ron.

Granted.

You are now free to refer to TB as a fat bastard.

Fat, yes. But I don't think I'm (technically) a bastard.