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[plym ian]

In my insignia. God i miss the comfort of the seats of my omega as it felt quite hard but on the plus side the fuel economy was only something i could ever dream of in the omega. 50mpg 700 odd miles round trip and I don't envy you guys one bit who use the m4/m25 everyday it was an absolute joke.

[tunnie]

I go M3/M25 every day, there are little tricks like always leave and re-join straight away. This can save some time on M25 

Yes I did not like Insignia seats, I tried quite a few spec types, found them all rock hard and not very supportive. 

[plym ian]

Wish id know that about the m3/25 lol

I went the m3 on the way back and it seemed to move so much freely

[Varche]

I go M3/M25 every day, there are little tricks like always leave and re-join straight away. This can save some time on M25 

Yes I did not like Insignia seats, I tried quite a few spec types, found them all rock hard and not very supportive. 

How does that work? is that like jumping the queue on the motorway ? Bit like the blighters that zoom up the outside of a queue at a roundabout going straight on , then round the roundabout and rejoin 50 places up.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

In my insignia. God i miss the comfort of the seats of my omega as it felt quite hard but on the plus side the fuel economy was only something i could ever dream of in the omega. 50mpg 700 odd miles round trip and I don't envy you guys one bit who use the m4/m25 everyday it was an absolute joke.

Did you go via John O, groats ? 

[plym ian]

In my insignia. God i miss the comfort of the seats of my omega as it felt quite hard but on the plus side the fuel economy was only something i could ever dream of in the omega. 50mpg 700 odd miles round trip and I don't envy you guys one bit who use the m4/m25 everyday it was an absolute joke.

Did you go via John O, groats ? 

Haha felt like it lol

Drove from here in plymouth to harwich to see my dad then to north london where i was staying then on way home round to lakeside and bluewater shopping centres then home!!!!

[tunnie]

I go M3/M25 every day, there are little tricks like always leave and re-join straight away. This can save some time on M25 

Yes I did not like Insignia seats, I tried quite a few spec types, found them all rock hard and not very supportive. 

How does that work? is that like jumping the queue on the motorway ? Bit like the blighters that zoom up the outside of a queue at a roundabout going straight on , then round the roundabout and rejoin 50 places up.

Eg on M25, Jc14 is for Heathrow T5. Often bulk of M25 is backed up heading to M4, take the Jc14 slip which is a long filter off. Head up to the round-about, then head straight down again re-joining the M25. Re-joining it's a long slip as well and you can skip a load of traffic. Sometimes it fails due to traffic flowing again and you hit lights on round-about, but you win more times than you loose. Do this for multiple junctions and it's a winner 

[plym ian]

I go M3/M25 every day, there are little tricks like always leave and re-join straight away. This can save some time on M25 

Yes I did not like Insignia seats, I tried quite a few spec types, found them all rock hard and not very supportive. 

How does that work? is that like jumping the queue on the motorway ? Bit like the blighters that zoom up the outside of a queue at a roundabout going straight on , then round the roundabout and rejoin 50 places up.

Eg on M25, Jc14 is for Heathrow T5. Often bulk of M25 is backed up heading to M4, take the Jc14 slip which is a long filter off. Head up to the round-about, then head straight down again re-joining the M25. Re-joining it's a long slip as well and you can skip a load of traffic. Sometimes it fails due to traffic flowing again and you hit lights on round-about, but you win more times than you loose. Do this for multiple junctions and it's a winner 

Never thought of it like that. Great advice.

Ever thought of becoming transport minister??

[Doctor Gollum]

Could you imagine

There are three reasons that the M25 is a constant mess:

1. Most of it is five lanes... alot of it was designed as three lanes, so at most junctions rather thasn rebuilding them, they simply lost the left hand lane (or two), which forces jams where you have five lanes of traffic being forced into three or four.

2. Alot of people do what Tunnie suggests, which blocks the junctions up and then forces people already on the motorway to brake because the joining traffic chooses to shove straight back into lanes two and three.

3. That particular section has five junctions in ten miles which compounds the problem. So whilst junction 11 might be a bit slow, by the time you get to junction 15, everything is at walking pace. Going the other way the junctions are reversed, but the effect is the same.

The funny thing is, Tunnie doesn't actually need to even use the motorway to get to work

[aaronjb]

I go M3/M25 every day, there are little tricks like always leave and re-join straight away. This can save some time on M25 

Yes I did not like Insignia seats, I tried quite a few spec types, found them all rock hard and not very supportive. 

How does that work? is that like jumping the queue on the motorway ? Bit like the blighters that zoom up the outside of a queue at a roundabout going straight on , then round the roundabout and rejoin 50 places up.

Eg on M25, Jc14 is for Heathrow T5. Often bulk of M25 is backed up heading to M4, take the Jc14 slip which is a long filter off. Head up to the round-about, then head straight down again re-joining the M25. Re-joining it's a long slip as well and you can skip a load of traffic. Sometimes it fails due to traffic flowing again and you hit lights on round-about, but you win more times than you loose. Do this for multiple junctions and it's a winner 

Don't make me hunt you down  I'm sure half the reason it backs up so badly is people trying to join the M25 from the abortion that is the M25/M4 interchange, and half of those are people who have 'skipped the traffic' up the junction like that..

Waze always wants to bring me from work (Chertsey, by M25 J11) to that junction (past Stanwell Moor etc) and I tend to ignore its advice as it is a royal pain in the hole to get around the roundabout and then on to the M25..

[Doctor Gollum]

See my edit

[tunnie]

I go M3/M25 every day, there are little tricks like always leave and re-join straight away. This can save some time on M25 

Yes I did not like Insignia seats, I tried quite a few spec types, found them all rock hard and not very supportive. 

How does that work? is that like jumping the queue on the motorway ? Bit like the blighters that zoom up the outside of a queue at a roundabout going straight on , then round the roundabout and rejoin 50 places up.

Eg on M25, Jc14 is for Heathrow T5. Often bulk of M25 is backed up heading to M4, take the Jc14 slip which is a long filter off. Head up to the round-about, then head straight down again re-joining the M25. Re-joining it's a long slip as well and you can skip a load of traffic. Sometimes it fails due to traffic flowing again and you hit lights on round-about, but you win more times than you loose. Do this for multiple junctions and it's a winner 

Don't make me hunt you down  I'm sure half the reason it backs up so badly is people trying to join the M25 from the abortion that is the M25/M4 interchange, and half of those are people who have 'skipped the traffic' up the junction like that..

Waze always wants to bring me from work (Chertsey, by M25 J11) to that junction (past Stanwell Moor etc) and I tend to ignore its advice as it is a royal pain in the hole to get around the roundabout and then on to the M25..

I do as well, it often suggests ploughing through Hounslow, which is a sh*t hole. Full of speed bumps and seriously poor roads, pot hole ridden.

I've timed it before, Waze for example says Hounslow route I'll get home at 6:03PM, I ignore it and go up A30 via Hatton Cross to M25, then M3... nearly always home at 6:03 and it's far better route.

[tunnie]

I go M3/M25 every day, there are little tricks like always leave and re-join straight away. This can save some time on M25 

Yes I did not like Insignia seats, I tried quite a few spec types, found them all rock hard and not very supportive. 

How does that work? is that like jumping the queue on the motorway ? Bit like the blighters that zoom up the outside of a queue at a roundabout going straight on , then round the roundabout and rejoin 50 places up.

Eg on M25, Jc14 is for Heathrow T5. Often bulk of M25 is backed up heading to M4, take the Jc14 slip which is a long filter off. Head up to the round-about, then head straight down again re-joining the M25. Re-joining it's a long slip as well and you can skip a load of traffic. Sometimes it fails due to traffic flowing again and you hit lights on round-about, but you win more times than you loose. Do this for multiple junctions and it's a winner 

Don't make me hunt you down  I'm sure half the reason it backs up so badly is people trying to join the M25

You know those who barge in at the last moment, skipping long queues......     

Don't like queuing, especially when I'm going to work. Thing is everyone does it, so I'm not just going to sit in queue to feel good. Might as well join them 

[aaronjb]

I do as well, it often suggests ploughing through Hounslow, which is a sh*t hole. Full of speed bumps and seriously poor roads, pot hole ridden.

I've timed it before, Waze for example says Hounslow route I'll get home at 6:03PM, I ignore it and go up A30 via Hatton Cross to M25, then M3... nearly always home at 6:03 and it's far better route.

Yeah - I'm sure it works well some places, but that doesn't seem to include the UK Friends overseas (esp. in the US or Israel) can't understand how come I can't use it to shave 30-45 minutes off my average commute home (which is ~2-2.5hrs to do a 1.5hr journey); but when that route is Chertsey->Northampton there really isn't much of a viable alternative to just slogging up the motorway as every non-trunk road is just as congested

You know those who barge in at the last moment, skipping long queues......     

Don't like queuing, especially when I'm going to work. Thing is everyone does it, so I'm not just going to sit in queue to feel good. Might as well join them 

*makes mental note never to let any CCs in*  Although I'll never know if it's you or Wojciech who I work with (and lives down the M3).. still.. 

[Doctor Gollum]

So you advise people that skipping junctions is best, yet go A30/M25/M3 which is only ONE junction, with a dedicated lane

You could stay on the A30 all the way home and free up a space on the M25 and M3 for people who actually need to use it

[tunnie]

I do as well, it often suggests ploughing through Hounslow, which is a sh*t hole. Full of speed bumps and seriously poor roads, pot hole ridden.

I've timed it before, Waze for example says Hounslow route I'll get home at 6:03PM, I ignore it and go up A30 via Hatton Cross to M25, then M3... nearly always home at 6:03 and it's far better route.

Yeah - I'm sure it works well some places, but that doesn't seem to include the UK Friends overseas (esp. in the US or Israel) can't understand how come I can't use it to shave 30-45 minutes off my average commute home (which is ~2-2.5hrs to do a 1.5hr journey); but when that route is Chertsey->Northampton there really isn't much of a viable alternative to just slogging up the motorway as every non-trunk road is just as congested

You know those who barge in at the last moment, skipping long queues......     

Don't like queuing, especially when I'm going to work. Thing is everyone does it, so I'm not just going to sit in queue to feel good. Might as well join them 

*makes mental note never to let any CCs in*  Although I'll never know if it's you or Wojciech who I work with (and lives down the M3).. still.. 

Does he have a white CC? Gave nod to chap near Twickenham M3 who had a lovely R Line spec one, it had the later LED front headlights which I like.

[aaronjb]

I do as well, it often suggests ploughing through Hounslow, which is a sh*t hole. Full of speed bumps and seriously poor roads, pot hole ridden.

I've timed it before, Waze for example says Hounslow route I'll get home at 6:03PM, I ignore it and go up A30 via Hatton Cross to M25, then M3... nearly always home at 6:03 and it's far better route.

Yeah - I'm sure it works well some places, but that doesn't seem to include the UK Friends overseas (esp. in the US or Israel) can't understand how come I can't use it to shave 30-45 minutes off my average commute home (which is ~2-2.5hrs to do a 1.5hr journey); but when that route is Chertsey->Northampton there really isn't much of a viable alternative to just slogging up the motorway as every non-trunk road is just as congested

You know those who barge in at the last moment, skipping long queues......     

Don't like queuing, especially when I'm going to work. Thing is everyone does it, so I'm not just going to sit in queue to feel good. Might as well join them 

*makes mental note never to let any CCs in*  Although I'll never know if it's you or Wojciech who I work with (and lives down the M3).. still.. 

Does he have a white CC? Gave nod to chap near Twickenham M3 who had a lovely R Line spec one, it had the later LED front headlights which I like.

Nope - grey IIRC.. Still a nice looking car, but an older model (08-10) so no LED headlights

[Varche]

I do as well, it often suggests ploughing through Hounslow, which is a sh*t hole. Full of speed bumps and seriously poor roads, pot hole ridden.

I've timed it before, Waze for example says Hounslow route I'll get home at 6:03PM, I ignore it and go up A30 via Hatton Cross to M25, then M3... nearly always home at 6:03 and it's far better route.

Yeah - I'm sure it works well some places, but that doesn't seem to include the UK Friends overseas (esp. in the US or Israel) can't understand how come I can't use it to shave 30-45 minutes off my average commute home (which is ~2-2.5hrs to do a 1.5hr journey); but when that route is Chertsey->Northampton there really isn't much of a viable alternative to just slogging up the motorway as every non-trunk road is just as congested

You know those who barge in at the last moment, skipping long queues......     

Don't like queuing, especially when I'm going to work. Thing is everyone does it, so I'm not just going to sit in queue to feel good. Might as well join them 

*makes mental note never to let any CCs in*  Although I'll never know if it's you or Wojciech who I work with (and lives down the M3).. still.. 

Does he have a white CC? Gave nod to chap near Twickenham M3 who had a lovely R Line spec one, it had the later LED front headlights which I like.

Look good but a bit bumpy ride wise over B roads. These CC's aren't part of the BMW empire by any chance? no they have indicators so must be VW's.

[TheBoy]

I do as well, it often suggests ploughing through Hounslow, which is a sh*t hole. Full of speed bumps and seriously poor roads, pot hole ridden.

I've timed it before, Waze for example says Hounslow route I'll get home at 6:03PM, I ignore it and go up A30 via Hatton Cross to M25, then M3... nearly always home at 6:03 and it's far better route.

Yeah - I'm sure it works well some places, but that doesn't seem to include the UK Friends overseas (esp. in the US or Israel) can't understand how come I can't use it to shave 30-45 minutes off my average commute home (which is ~2-2.5hrs to do a 1.5hr journey); but when that route is Chertsey->Northampton there really isn't much of a viable alternative to just slogging up the motorway as every non-trunk road is just as congested

You know those who barge in at the last moment, skipping long queues......     

Don't like queuing, especially when I'm going to work. Thing is everyone does it, so I'm not just going to sit in queue to feel good. Might as well join them 

*makes mental note never to let any CCs in*  Although I'll never know if it's you or Wojciech who I work with (and lives down the M3).. still.. 

Does he have a white CC? Gave nod to chap near Twickenham M3 who had a lovely R Line spec one, it had the later LED front headlights which I like.

Look good but a bit bumpy ride wise over B roads. These CC's aren't part of the BMW empire by any chance? no they have indicators so must be VW's.

According to Mrs TB, VW's are the new beemer/chavalier/repmobile, as she says every single one is driven by an arrogant, self centred, small dicked, lane hogging arseole...

...not sure whats rattled her cage

[Sir Tigger KC]

Does he have a white CC? Gave nod to chap near Twickenham M3 who had a lovely R Line spec one, it had the later LED front headlights which I like.

Do CC owners nod to each other then?     

Is this a glimpse into a secret world that Tunnie is now part of?     

[Varche]

Hey, i am thinking of getting one.....

The real villains are the BMW drivers

[tunnie]

Does he have a white CC? Gave nod to chap near Twickenham M3 who had a lovely R Line spec one, it had the later LED front headlights which I like.

Do CC owners nod to each other then?     

Is this a glimpse into a secret world that Tunnie is now part of?   

Don't see many on the road, he looked on first. Was while side by side in traffic.

[plym ian]

Does he have a white CC? Gave nod to chap near Twickenham M3 who had a lovely R Line spec one, it had the later LED front headlights which I like.

Do CC owners nod to each other then?     

Is this a glimpse into a secret world that Tunnie is now part of?   

Don't see many on the road, he looked on first. Was while side by side in traffic.

Don't see many for sale either when i was looking for one

[Sir Tigger KC]

Does he have a white CC? Gave nod to chap near Twickenham M3 who had a lovely R Line spec one, it had the later LED front headlights which I like.

Do CC owners nod to each other then?     

Is this a glimpse into a secret world that Tunnie is now part of?   

Don't see many on the road, he looked on first. Was while side by side in traffic.

This seems a little gay to me!     

[Sir Tigger KC]

The real villains are the BMW drivers

Hey, i am thinking of getting one.....

Yes you should get a BMW Varche.    They're great cars as you don't have to use the indicators! 

[Varche]

Never seen a BMW with indicators. Always thought it was an expensive option.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Never seen a BMW with indicators. Always thought it was an expensive option.

Mine has them as it was a special order.  It also has a red interior. 

[ronnyd]

Never seen a BMW with indicators. Always thought it was an expensive option.

Mine has them as it was a special order.  It also has a red interior. 

[TheBoy]

Does he have a white CC? Gave nod to chap near Twickenham M3 who had a lovely R Line spec one, it had the later LED front headlights which I like.

Do CC owners nod to each other then?     

Is this a glimpse into a secret world that Tunnie is now part of?   

I think the nod means "lets meet up in one of those designated laybys"

[Sir Tigger KC]

Does he have a white CC? Gave nod to chap near Twickenham M3 who had a lovely R Line spec one, it had the later LED front headlights which I like.

Do CC owners nod to each other then?     

Is this a glimpse into a secret world that Tunnie is now part of?   

I think the nod means "lets meet up in one of those designated laybys"

" he looked on first. Was while side by side......"

I think you're right TB.    I guess you have to do something to get your kicks when you drive a Volkswagon!   

I wonder if Mrs Tunnie knows?     

[tunnie]

Does he have a white CC? Gave nod to chap near Twickenham M3 who had a lovely R Line spec one, it had the later LED front headlights which I like.

Do CC owners nod to each other then?     

Is this a glimpse into a secret world that Tunnie is now part of?   

I think the nod means "lets meet up in one of those designated laybys"

Sounds like you are speaking from experience here? 

[Kevin Wood]

Does he have a white CC? Gave nod to chap near Twickenham M3 who had a lovely R Line spec one, it had the later LED front headlights which I like.

Do CC owners nod to each other then?     

Is this a glimpse into a secret world that Tunnie is now part of?   

I think the nod means "lets meet up in one of those designated ladyboys"

Ftfy. Iffy keyboard, theboy?   

[biggriffin]

I go M3/M25 every day, there are little tricks like always leave and re-join straight away. This can save some time on M25 

Yes I did not like Insignia seats, I tried quite a few spec types, found them all rock hard and not very supportive. 

How does that work? is that like jumping the queue on the motorway ? Bit like the blighters that zoom up the outside of a queue at a roundabout going straight on , then round the roundabout and rejoin 50 places up.

Eg on M25, Jc14 is for Heathrow T5. Often bulk of M25 is backed up heading to M4, take the Jc14 slip which is a long filter off. Head up to the round-about, then head straight down again re-joining the M25. Re-joining it's a long slip as well and you can skip a load of traffic. Sometimes it fails due to traffic flowing again and you hit lights on round-about, but you win more times than you loose. Do this for multiple junctions and it's a winner 

Don't make me hunt you down  I'm sure half the reason it backs up so badly is people trying to join the M25

You know those who barge in at the last moment, skipping long queues......     

Don't like queuing, especially when I'm going to work. Thing is everyone does it, so I'm not just going to sit in queue to feel good. Might as well join them 

 

He's become a cock, who drives a vw/audi product,  they go from slip road to outside lane, up one junction,across again up the slip down the other side, go from lane to lane, giving it the two sugars sign or bean shaker, and the get three cars further up wooo betide anybody who gives him a blast on the horns, the response is comical.... while I just sit there drinking my tea, and getting paid, thinking What a complete KNOB

[Kevin Wood]

He's become a cock, who drives a vw/audi product,  they go from slip road to outside lane, up one junction,across again up the slip down the other side, go from lane to lane, giving it the two sugars sign or bean shaker, and the get three cars further up wooo betide anybody who gives him a blast on the horns, the response is comical.... while I just sit there drinking my tea, and getting paid, thinking What a complete KNOB

You forgot to mention the acrid black smoke.

[aaronjb]

He's become a cock, who drives a vw/audi product,  they go from slip road to outside lane, up one junction,across again up the slip down the other side, go from lane to lane, giving it the two sugars sign or bean shaker, and the get three cars further up wooo betide anybody who gives him a blast on the horns, the response is comical.... while I just sit there drinking my tea, and getting paid, thinking What a complete KNOB

You forgot to mention the acrid black smoke.

Hang on.. I drive a VAG product too but don't sneak up junctions (because I CBA trying to fight across three+ lanes only to fight back across three+ lanes 2000yds further along).

I haven't noticed any smoke, either  Bloody pongs when it's doing a regen, though!

[tunnie]

He's become a cock, who drives a vw/audi product,  they go from slip road to outside lane, up one junction,across again up the slip down the other side, go from lane to lane, giving it the two sugars sign or bean shaker, and the get three cars further up wooo betide anybody who gives him a blast on the horns, the response is comical.... while I just sit there drinking my tea, and getting paid, thinking What a complete KNOB

You forgot to mention the acrid black smoke.

Hang on.. I drive a VAG product too but don't sneak up junctions (because I CBA trying to fight across three+ lanes only to fight back across three+ lanes 2000yds further along).

I haven't noticed any smoke, either  Bloody pongs when it's doing a regen, though!

Only noticed slight smell getting out of the car if it's just done a re-gen, normally don't notice them. Likewise never seen any smoke either, but then again I'm not behind it. But the tail pipe has no trace of soot on it, so all working as it should.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

He's become a cock, who drives a vw/audi product,  they go from slip road to outside lane, up one junction,across again up the slip down the other side, go from lane to lane, giving it the two sugars sign or bean shaker, and the get three cars further up wooo betide anybody who gives him a blast on the horns, the response is comical.... while I just sit there drinking my tea, and getting paid, thinking What a complete KNOB

You forgot to mention the acrid black smoke.

Hang on.. I drive a VAG product too but don't sneak up junctions (because I CBA trying to fight across three+ lanes only to fight back across three+ lanes 2000yds further along).

I haven't noticed any smoke, either  Bloody pongs when it's doing a regen, though!

Only noticed slight smell getting out of the car if it's just done a re-gen, normally don't notice them. Likewise never seen any smoke either, but then again I'm not behind it. But the tail pipe has no trace of soot on it, so all working as it should.

I quite like soot.......from a Victorian chimney.

[TD]

He's become a cock, who drives a vw/audi product,  they go from slip road to outside lane, up one junction,across again up the slip down the other side, go from lane to lane, giving it the two sugars sign or bean shaker, and the get three cars further up wooo betide anybody who gives him a blast on the horns, the response is comical.... while I just sit there drinking my tea, and getting paid, thinking What a complete KNOB

You forgot to mention the acrid black smoke.

Hang on.. I drive a VAG product too but don't sneak up junctions (because I CBA trying to fight across three+ lanes only to fight back across three+ lanes 2000yds further along).

I haven't noticed any smoke, either  Bloody pongs when it's doing a regen, though!

Only noticed slight smell getting out of the car if it's just done a re-gen, normally don't notice them. Likewise never seen any smoke either, but then again I'm not behind it. But the tail pipe has no trace of soot on it, so all working as it should.

Try dropping to say 3rd and plant the loud pedal firmly on the floor.....check rear view mirror as the revs get to 4k.....then you might