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[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Nice......but not nice enough.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201707087183982

[tunnie]

Love outside colour, very similar to my CC 

Personally I would think an all-black interior would look better. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Love outside colour, very similar to my CC 

Personally I would think an all-black interior would look better. 

Same interior as mine which I like.

Sunroof far too noisy above 60 MPH with blind open and above 80 MPH with blind closed.

Headroom barely adequate. But a sunroof may be fine for a shortarse such as TB.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

De-badged.......presumably from new.

[tunnie]

Love outside colour, very similar to my CC 

Personally I would think an all-black interior would look better. 

Same interior as mine which I like.

Sunroof far too noisy above 60 MPHwith blind open and above 80 MPH with blind closed. 

Headroom barely adequate. But a sunroof may be fine for a shortarse such as TB.

Find that surprising on such a new car, I put sunroof in the 3.2 down to being so old that it's loud. Perhaps it's them in general, the CC does not have one and it's night and day difference in terms of wind noise inside the car.

Also with an XF-R you would spend a lot of time at 80+ 

It's true TB is a shortarse, he also carries a little more ballast, so car sits lower. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Love outside colour, very similar to my CC 

Personally I would think an all-black interior would look better. 

I thought your car was white.

[tunnie]

De-badged.......presumably from new.

Hardly worth it, not exactly wolf in a sheep costume with those exhausts and wheels.

De-badge for me works well on a sleeper, might as well have R badges on that.

[tunnie]

Love outside colour, very similar to my CC 

Personally I would think an all-black interior would look better. 

I thought your car was white.

[Viral_Jim]

Shame, nice looking thing!

I like a red interior (hence speaking it on the bmw) but I'm not sure about red inside and out as they invariably don't match.

As you say tunnie, hardly a sleeper  . Then again, were those wheels unique to the R, or did jag do what everyone else did and allow you to spec all the external goodies with a poxy 2.2d under the hood?

Also, is this different to your current one in any way? I thought you had a FL one already, or did jag make tweaks to the car during its life?

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Love outside colour, very similar to my CC 

Personally I would think an all-black interior would look better. 

Same interior as mine which I like.

Sunroof far too noisy above 60 MPHwith blind open and above 80 MPH with blind closed. 

Headroom barely adequate. But a sunroof may be fine for a shortarse such as TB.

Find that surprising on such a new car, I put sunroof in the 3.2 down to being so old that it's loud. Perhaps it's them in general, the CC does not have one and it's night and day difference in terms of wind noise inside the car.

Also with an XF-R you would spend a lot of time at 80+ 

It's true TB is a shortarse, he also carries a little more ballast, so car sits lower. 

Sounded like a deranged hound howling at the moon the faster the car went. Disappointing.

Despite having the seat as low as it would go my head still touched the edge of the sunroof. Quite annoying as I'm only six-one and not properly tall like yourself. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Love outside colour, very similar to my CC 

Personally I would think an all-black interior would look better. 

I thought your car was white.

So it is. I stand corrected.

What do VW call that particular shade of red?

[tunnie]

Love outside colour, very similar to my CC 

Personally I would think an all-black interior would look better. 

I thought your car was white.

So it is. I stand corrected.

What do VW call that particular shade of red?

Fortana Red 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Shame, nice looking thing!

I like a red interior (hence speaking it on the bmw) but I'm not sure about red inside and out as they invariably don't match.

As you say tunnie, hardly a sleeper  . Then again, were those wheels unique to the R, or did jag do what everyone else did and allow you to spec all the external goodies with a poxy 2.2d under the hood?

Also, is this different to your current one in any way? I thought you had a FL one already, or did jag make tweaks to the car during its life?

Car virtually identical apart from 21 months, 37000 less miles, and £14000.

It didn't drive any better or feel 'tighter'......brakes not as good as on my car.

Also the car has an ambiguous warranty history. Manufacturers 3 year warranty runs to April 2018, yet a previous owner added a 2 year Jaguar approved warranty in August 2016. Why would anyone do that?

[Viral_Jim]

Owner 1 does something to invalidate the warranty, remap or whatever and gets rumbled. Owner 2 Has it corrected by jag and then buys an updated warranty?  only reason that springs to mind.

The point about brakes is interesting, wonder if yours are just newer. In any case, I hope you find the right one

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Love outside colour, very similar to my CC 

Personally I would think an all-black interior would look better. 

I thought your car was white.

So it is. I stand corrected.

What do VW call that particular shade of red?

Fortana Red 

Very posh.

The CC always reminds me of a Mercedes CL coupe from the rear.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Owner 1 does something to invalidate the warranty, remap or whatever and gets rumbled. Owner 2 Has it corrected by jag and then buys an updated warranty?  only reason that springs to mind.

The point about brakes is interesting, wonder if yours are just newer. In any case, I hope you find the right one

My theory ( because the dealer has no idea himself)

First owner sells car in August 2016 with 20 months manufacturers warranty remaining.

New owner insists on a full 2 year warranty so dealers adds this as part of the sale. Two warranties running side by side.

[tunnie]

Shame, nice looking thing!

I like a red interior (hence speaking it on the bmw) but I'm not sure about red inside and out as they invariably don't match.

As you say tunnie, hardly a sleeper  . Then again, were those wheels unique to the R, or did jag do what everyone else did and allow you to spec all the external goodies with a poxy 2.2d under the hood?

Also, is this different to your current one in any way? I thought you had a FL one already, or did jag make tweaks to the car during its life?

Car virtually identical apart from 21 months, 37000 less miles, and £14000.

That's not a lot for £14k cash. 

Love outside colour, very similar to my CC 

Personally I would think an all-black interior would look better. 

I thought your car was white.

So it is. I stand corrected.

What do VW call that particular shade of red?

Fortana Red 

Very posh.

The CC always reminds me of a Mercedes CL coupe from the rear.

I would have gone Merc CLS, but could not find what I wanted for my budget at the time.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I agree that is not a lot to show for £14000.

......actually it was £14995 plus my car. £24000 for mine and a paltry £1000 off the new car.

Only done 10,000 miles from new being his mantra.

[Viral_Jim]

That's not a lot for £14k cash. 

Try telling that to the first owner, who paid over £25k for the first 24months and 10k Miles of ownership 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

......and another thing.
The trip over there highlighted just how utterly piss poor Jaguar Sat Nav is.

The system in the mighty Signum is far superior.

[tunnie]

I agree that is not a lot to show for £14000.

......actually it was £14995 plus my car. £24000 for mine and a paltry £1000 off the new car.

Only done 10,000 miles from new being his mantra.

Makes yours a bit of a bargain I think.

That's not a lot for £14k cash. 

Try telling that to the first owner, who paid over £25k for the first 24months and 10k Miles of ownership 

Very true! 

Big cats are a great buy....... second hand!

[Doctor Gollum]

......and another thing.
The trip over there highlighted just how utterly piss poor Jaguar Sat Nav is.

The system in the mighty Signum is far superior.

Quite an achievement considering you can't even put a full postcode in it

[Doctor Gollum]

I agree that is not a lot to show for £14000.

......actually it was £14995 plus my car. £24000 for mine and a paltry £1000 off the new car.

Only done 10,000 miles from new being his mantra.

Makes yours a bit of a bargain I think.

That's not a lot for £14k cash. 

Try telling that to the first owner, who paid over £25k for the first 24months and 10k Miles of ownership 

Very true! 

Big cats are a great buy....... second hand!

You do realise that you are talking about a car that is up for sale at £39,995   

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

......and another thing.
The trip over there highlighted just how utterly piss poor Jaguar Sat Nav is.

The system in the mighty Signum is far superior.

Quite an achievement considering you can't even put a full postcode in it

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True, Al.

But the Signum Sat Nav, despite being far from perfect, understands I'm driving in England and not Outer Mongolia.

[Lincs Robert]

I've bought houses for less than that, admittedly in 1984   

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I agree that is not a lot to show for £14000.

......actually it was £14995 plus my car. £24000 for mine and a paltry £1000 off the new car.

Only done 10,000 miles from new being his mantra.

Makes yours a bit of a bargain I think.

That's not a lot for £14k cash. 

Try telling that to the first owner, who paid over £25k for the first 24months and 10k Miles of ownership 

Very true! 

Big cats are a great buy....... second hand!

You do realise that you are talking about a car that is up for sale at £39,995   

Not a million miles away from the most expensive Mondeo.

.......and how about a new 3.2 Elite for £33000 in 2003? ( Did anyone actually pay that?)

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I've bought houses for less than that, admittedly in 1984   

I know what you mean, Robert.

My first house cost £41050 in 1990.


Father in law paid £5000 for a four bed detached in 1971.


My parents paid £1600 for a thee bed semi in the fifties.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

.......and still on houses.


I'm pretty sure my grand parents only paid 'a couple of hundred' quid for a house in the 1920's. Rent would have been ten bob a week way back then.

[STEMO]

In 1964, when I was 11, we moved from a terraced two up-two down, with no bathroom, into a three bed terraced with a bathroom. Dad paid £1995 for the three bed and got £450 for the two bed.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

In 1964, when I was 11, we moved from a terraced two up-two down, with no bathroom, into a three bed terraced with a bathroom. Dad paid £1995 for the three bed and got £450 for the two bed.
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Fookinell'

Even in 1964 that was not a lot of money for a house. I'm guessing the house was not in Surrey.

[Sir Tigger KC]

......and another thing.
The trip over there highlighted just how utterly piss poor Jaguar Sat Nav is.

The system in the mighty Signum is far superior.

This is true! 

A couple of years ago I was driving my mates XK-R in Houston and got lost despite using the satnav.  I ended up in a pretty low rent area, where a white boy in a flash foreign sports car attracted attention from the locals!    

My sphincter was twitching a little as I high tailed it out of there!   

[Doctor Gollum]

There's a corner of St John's in Antigua that has the same effect on list tourists...

[Doctor Gollum]

In 1964, when I was 11, we moved from a terraced two up-two down, with no bathroom, into a three bed terraced with a bathroom. Dad paid £1995 for the three bed and got £450 for the two bed.
[/quote


Fookinell'

Even in 1964 that was not a lot of money for a house. I'm guessing the house was not in Surrey.

There was no copper or brass left in the building 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

......and another thing.
The trip over there highlighted just how utterly piss poor Jaguar Sat Nav is.

The system in the mighty Signum is far superior.

This is true! 

A couple of years ago I was driving my mates XK-R in Houston and got lost despite using the satnav. I ended up in a pretty low rent area, where a white boy in a flash foreign sports car attracted attention from the locals!    

My sphincter was twitching a little as I high tailed it out of there!   

You were probably minutes away from being gang-banged by a group of angry black boys wearing a bandana.

The Jag and it's driver never to be seen again.

Lucky escape, Sir Tig.

[Lincs Robert]

I've bought houses for less than that, admittedly in 1984   

I know what you mean, Robert.

My first house cost £41050 in 1990


Father in law paid £5000 for a four bed detached in 1971.


My parents paid £1600 for a thee bed semi in the fifties.

Why do you think I moved from Bucks to Lincs 

[BazaJT]

In 1955 we moved into a 5 bedroom detached in a third of an acre of grounds,I don't know what dad paid for it but when he sold it to downsize in 1973 he got £22,000 for it!

[TD]

Owner 1 does something to invalidate the warranty, remap or whatever and gets rumbled. Owner 2 Has it corrected by jag and then buys an updated warranty?  only reason that springs to mind.

The point about brakes is interesting, wonder if yours are just newer. In any case, I hope you find the right one

My theory ( because the dealer has no idea himself)

First owner sells car in August 2016 with 20 months manufacturers warranty remaining.

New owner insists on a full 2 year warranty so dealers adds this as part of the sale. Two warranties running side by side.

More than likely 

When I bought my 2.2 its was 2.5years old..and had 6 months remaining vx warranty. Dealer slapped on a 1 year NetworkQ warranty....so for 6 months I had 2 warranties on the 2.2 

[2boxerdogs]

Nice looking car, but have you not considered an Aston Martin ?

[Viral_Jim]

V12 DB9

Very Opti

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

V12 DB9

Very Opti

Sadly just about any Aston is out of my league.

The DB9 V12 is a beautiful creation.....(apart from the Ford bits) .

[tunnie]

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201707187476422

In budget?

[Viral_Jim]

Main downside with these iirc is athat you have to drop the engine to change the spark plugs  Well the rear two at least. Used I'd have the v8 vantage I think.

 I've no problem with the ford bits - they're the most likely to work

[TheBoy]

......and another thing.
The trip over there highlighted just how utterly piss poor Jaguar Sat Nav is.

The system in the mighty Signum is far superior.

I'm surprised you have so many issues with satnav.  Unless you are expecting them to give you a hand job on the way.

Suspect the system in mine is slightly older than yours (Its something like gen2.1 hdd or similar).  It does what it claims - it gets you to the specified destination.

My gripes with the Jag one, is you *HAVE* to use the touchscreen to enter stuff in, whereas the NCDC for example, could be completely controlled from the steering wheel.  Fortunately mine has Jaguar Voice, and surprisingly works well, apart from postcodes, due to an extra step/guess needed.

But I never use postcodes anyway, due to their all round shiteness.


None of the roads on the route I expect you took have changed around these parts, unless you went along A43, then the jnc with M40 has been remodelled to arguably make it flow better (it doesn't), so its not like it would have you driving in a field etc.