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Title: Cheque book time.
Post by: biggriffin on 01 July 2020, 14:12:25
Especially for our rich members.
 https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201607296307140
Title: Re: Cheque book time.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 01 July 2020, 14:18:24
How has the owner arrived at a figure of £150000?
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Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 01 July 2020, 14:19:31
Think of a large number and then multiply it by six? :)
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Post by: Doctor Gollum on 01 July 2020, 14:26:55
Think of a large number and then multiply it by six? :)
And then add a zero.
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Post by: Viral_Jim on 01 July 2020, 14:30:07
Its nice and all, but I'd pass at anything over 10% of that price, let alone what the seller seems to want.  :o
Title: Re: Cheque book time.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 01 July 2020, 16:46:42
I'm sorry, but whichever way you look at it, it looks like someone drove a 1.8GL through Helfrods.  :-\

It's probably the price that makes the car look cheap and tacky... If it were £45-55k, I could understand that, as that's about where decent Cosworths are now.
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Post by: Rangie on 01 July 2020, 16:48:07
Don't think anyone in a good mental state would pay that ,far superior vehicles around now.
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Post by: Broomies Mate on 01 July 2020, 17:06:36
A tad overpriced.

And a brilliantly eloquent advertisment, too!  :-\
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Post by: BazaJT on 01 July 2020, 17:11:30
Always loved the LC but that price is way over the top.Mind you for some reason Sierra Cosworths are getting close to that kind of price.
Title: Re: Cheque book time.
Post by: biggriffin on 01 July 2020, 17:18:48
I'm sorry, but whichever way you look at it, it looks like someone drove a 1.8GL through Helfrods.  :-\

It's probably the price that makes the car look cheap and tacky... If it were £45-55k, I could understand that, as that's about where decent Cosworths are now.


 Having driven both, the Carlton is much better in every respect, and the Halfords bits serve a purpose.... a well tuned 24v could upset a cosworth ;D

Yes it's Sooo overpriced
Title: Re: Cheque book time.
Post by: Viral_Jim on 01 July 2020, 17:26:22
Maybe my opinion would change driving one, but as it stands I'm not really sure what you're getting with the LC, yes, 380 odd bhp was astounding for the time, but you can have the performance now for sub £20k easily,

And beyond the performance, all you seem to have is a visually mediocre (to me) albeit probably comfortable 90's saloon car.  :-\

Title: Re: Cheque book time.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 01 July 2020, 18:36:28
It looks like he will only entertain offers 'over' £150000.
Title: Re: Cheque book time.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 01 July 2020, 19:10:24
Thats ludicrous. Im sure I remember them going for circa £30k less than 10 years ago.
Mind you, a Cosworth Sierra wouldnt see which way that went. A different league altogether from the old Dagenham dustbin.
Title: Re: Cheque book time.
Post by: YZ250 on 01 July 2020, 19:31:53
I know the price is for the classic status of the Lotus Carlton but it shows how times have changed performance wise. The BMW Alpina D5 Bi-Turbo from the same seller (garage) would hang on to that, and do 48mpg on a decent run. Just saying like.......  ::)
The reality is, anything is only worth what people will pay.
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Post by: Keith ABS on 01 July 2020, 19:40:55
 Its not really for sale. He puts that advert up to entice people to the showroom to look and eventually sells them something else. About three years ago it was only £50,000
Title: Re: Cheque book time.
Post by: YZ250 on 01 July 2020, 19:46:16
Its not really for sale. He puts that advert up to entice people to the showroom to look and eventually sells them something else. About three years ago it was only £50,000

I'm not sure a 150 grand car would entice me to his showroom Keith, he needs to aim a bit lower to get me in there.  :y ;D
Title: Re: Cheque book time.
Post by: Broomies Mate on 01 July 2020, 20:07:54
I know the price is for the classic status of the Lotus Carlton but it shows how times have changed performance wise. The BMW Alpina D5 Bi-Turbo from the same seller (garage) would hang on to that, and do 48mpg on a decent run. Just saying like.......  ::)
The reality is, anything is only worth what people will pay.

I'd put a decent wedge of money on the D5 Bi-Turbo beating the LC in every measurable way (performance).

It would be reasonably close on a 3mile runway, but as soon as you add a couple of corners, the BMW would be in a different league.
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Post by: Viral_Jim on 01 July 2020, 20:55:57
For me, that hits on the point/problem with classic cars. There has to be something beyond performance that makes them attractive. In a world where hot hatches have 300bhp and 450bhp can be had for £10k on the used market, classic cars need to have something more than whatever passed for performance when they were new.

Maybe because I didn't have a GM childhood/introduction to cars, but the LC just doesn't have much to offer. Especially at a ludicrous price.
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Post by: Broomies Mate on 01 July 2020, 21:35:35
For me, that hits on the point/problem with classic cars. There has to be something beyond performance that makes them attractive. In a world where hot hatches have 300bhp and 450bhp can be had for £10k on the used market, classic cars need to have something more than whatever passed for performance when they were new.

Maybe because I didn't have a GM childhood/introduction to cars, but the LC just doesn't have much to offer. Especially at a ludicrous price.

But that's exactly thing thing the Lotus Carlton was 'famed' for...... being the fastest 4door saloon on the planet.  I do understand it's attraction, as that is quit an accolade, but it was just a fast Carlton.

The 'Classic Car' stuff I don't understand are the many thousands who take pleasure in owning (and maintaining) cars like a MG Midget, or Hillman Imp.  Notable for practically nothing.

I am the soft side of 40yrs old, though.
Title: Re: Cheque book time.
Post by: Viral_Jim on 01 July 2020, 21:53:39
I think a lot of older men like something to tinker with, and the very thing that would make older cars annoying as daily drivers (the constant need to fettle) makes them perfect for that role. I think a lot of people also hanker after the car they could never afford. Even if that car was modest for its day, it holds greater significance because you weren't able to have it.

Also there's the whole 'recapturing your youth' thing, which I don't think I'm old enough to understand yet. I still also own my first car, so in that sense, I never let my youth escape ;D

Title: Re: Cheque book time.
Post by: Andy B on 01 July 2020, 22:29:39
.....
 or Hillman Imp.  Notable for practically nothing.

 .....

Silly camber angle at the back ... weren't they at a silly height to comply with light heights somewhere abroad? (USA?)
Vacuum throttle on early car very quickly removed for a conventional throttle
Industrial unrest in Scotland where they were first made
All ally (pump) engine that was a bit before its time ... also used in the Bond 875
Better than a Mini  ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Cheque book time.
Post by: Broomies Mate on 01 July 2020, 23:01:37
.....
 or Hillman Imp.  Notable for practically nothing.

 .....

Silly camber angle at the back ... weren't they at a silly height to comply with light heights somewhere abroad? (USA?)
Vacuum throttle on early car very quickly removed for a conventional throttle
Industrial unrest in Scotland where they were first made
All ally (pump) engine that was a bit before its time ... also used in the Bond 875
Better than a Mini  ::) ::) ::)

I'll rephrase;

Notable for nothing practical!  ;D
Title: Re: Cheque book time.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 01 July 2020, 23:22:55
I think a lot of older men like something to tinker with, and the very thing that would make older cars annoying as daily drivers (the constant need to fettle) makes them perfect for that role. I think a lot of people also hanker after the car they could never afford. Even if that car was modest for its day, it holds greater significance because you weren't able to have it.

Also there's the whole 'recapturing your youth' thing, which I don't think I'm old enough to understand yet. I still also own my first car, so in that sense, I never let my youth escape ;D


Which is why I want a Lotus Cortina with a green stripe.

I know it would be shit slow and handle like a dog on polished lino but it would look great when parked outside a nice country pub. :y
Title: Re: Cheque book time.
Post by: 78bex on 02 July 2020, 00:12:22
Just supposing I won 40 odd million on the lottery, would I buy it  ??? Hell yer
Then I`d enter it in a classic car race & it`s nice to dream occasionally  :y
I really dream of a race prepared Austin A35  8) & taking her up to the Goodwood circuit.

Title: Re: Cheque book time.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 02 July 2020, 01:36:08
£150,000!  :o  There are places that you can buy 3 houses for that!  ::)
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Post by: Andy B on 02 July 2020, 07:51:11
£150,000!  :o  There are places that you can buy 3 houses for that!  ::)

 ... and get change!  :y
Title: Re: Cheque book time.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 02 July 2020, 07:52:28
£150,000!  :o  There are places that you can buy 3 houses for that!  ::)
Or one really nice house somewhere else  :D
Title: Re: Cheque book time.
Post by: Andy B on 02 July 2020, 07:56:25
£150,000!  :o  There are places that you can buy 3 houses for that!  ::)
Or one really nice house somewhere else  :D

maybe an 'OK' house  ::)
Title: Re: Cheque book time.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 02 July 2020, 08:05:39
£150,000!  :o  There are places that you can buy 3 houses for that!  ::)
Or one really nice house somewhere else  :D

maybe an 'OK' house  ::)
$200,000 will get you something nice a stones throw from any city in the Southern US... €165,000 will buy you a nice apartment or Finca anywhere in Spain/France /Italy. ;)
Title: Re: Cheque book time.
Post by: Andy B on 02 July 2020, 08:17:02
£150,000!  :o  There are places that you can buy 3 houses for that!  ::)
Or one really nice house somewhere else  :D

maybe an 'OK' house  ::)
$200,000 will get you something nice a stones throw from any city in the Southern US... €165,000 will buy you a nice apartment or Finca anywhere in Spain/France /Italy. ;)
I didn't realise we were including over seas  ;D
Title: Re: Cheque book time.
Post by: Rangie on 02 July 2020, 08:42:44
I think if I were to spend a vast amount of cash on a car it would be an Aston Martin or a Bentley, undecided on which model so would have to take a few test drives before making a final decision.
Title: Re: Cheque book time.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 02 July 2020, 09:55:57
£150,000!  :o  There are places that you can buy 3 houses for that!  ::)
Or one really nice house somewhere else  :D

maybe an 'OK' house  ::)
$200,000 will get you something nice a stones throw from any city in the Southern US... €165,000 will buy you a nice apartment or Finca anywhere in Spain/France /Italy. ;)

Given the state of the US at the moment, I wouldn't want to be a stones throw from any town or city there!  :D
Title: Re: Cheque book time.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 02 July 2020, 11:05:27
£150,000!  :o  There are places that you can buy 3 houses for that!  ::)
Or one really nice house somewhere else  :D

maybe an 'OK' house  ::)
$200,000 will get you something nice a stones throw from any city in the Southern US... €165,000 will buy you a nice apartment or Finca anywhere in Spain/France /Italy. ;)
I didn't realise we were including over seas  ;D
Well, if you found yourself with £150k spare, you wouldn't be buying a really nice house in Jaywick, for example  ;)
Title: Re: Cheque book time.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 02 July 2020, 11:59:28
£150k wouldnt buy you a nice house in Jaywick.  ::)
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-71059887.html
Title: Re: Cheque book time.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 02 July 2020, 12:04:51
£150k wouldnt buy you a nice house in Jaywick.  ::)
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-71059887.html
:o
I figured it would offend fewer people than say, 'ull or Burnley ::)
Title: Re: Cheque book time.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 02 July 2020, 12:50:59
70p and half a Kitkat would get you a small place in Leicester at the moment  ;D
Title: Re: Cheque book time.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 02 July 2020, 12:57:16
 ;D
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Post by: Viral_Jim on 02 July 2020, 14:35:43
£150k wouldnt buy you a nice house in Jaywick.  ::)
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-71059887.html

I'd rather have the LC and a sleeping bag. At least I could park it somewhere nice...
Title: Re: Cheque book time.
Post by: tooleater on 02 July 2020, 17:08:42
You'll be much more comfortable in the £5k 3.2 Elite estate for sale on Auto Trader. :y
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Post by: Kevin Wood on 02 July 2020, 23:07:18
£150k wouldnt buy you a nice house in Jaywick.  ::)
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-71059887.html
There's something nice in Jaywick? :o
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Post by: dave the builder on 03 July 2020, 01:03:44
£150k wouldnt buy you a nice house in Jaywick.  ::)
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-71059887.html
There's something nice in Jaywick? :o
clearly not , that was an ugly house to start with ,yet somehow they managed to surpass that by fitting ugly ,poorly designed extensions etc  ;D
Title: Re: Cheque book time.
Post by: Raeturbo on 03 July 2020, 01:19:19
You'll be much more comfortable in the £5k 3.2 Elite estate for sale on Auto Trader. :y
              Yes, and have lots of change too👍 ;D