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[TheBoy]

Any recommendations?

[VXL V6]

When I used to have a house with a garage....  I just got some second hand fluorescent tubes and holders, obviously more modern fittings with LED's are probably the way to go now.

[TheBoy]

When I used to have a house with a garage....  I just got some second hand fluorescent tubes and holders, obviously more modern fittings with LED's are probably the way to go now.

Freebies not available this time

[VXL V6]

I've heard Mummy and Daddy Tunnie have some nice lights in their garage.....

Just saying like   

[CaptainZok]

Explosion proof fittings may be worth thinking about. 

[TheBoy]

I've heard Mummy and Daddy Tunnie have some nice lights in their garage.....

Just saying like   

Hmmm, I susect I could get in there as well 

[aaronjb]

I have these in the workshop - they are a million times better than the cheaper ones I have in the garage:
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/GLSW235HF.html
With the LAFLT35DL tubes (865 - Daylight)

[Sir Tigger KC]

Gas lamp? 

[Keith ABS]

Check out toolstation. They seem to be offering some better prices than screwfix at the moment
Keith B

[Marks DTM Calib]

As per my recommendation to Tunnie, I use this supplier for light fittings:

http://www.alertelectrical.com/prodvar/4112/weatherproof-hf-fluorescent-1-x-36w

The key thing to get is a HF fitting as the tubes last longer and there is no wanky starter to worry about.

[brendan1983]

I've used these in my garage... instant on, no flickering 

http://www.alertelectrical.com/prodvar/4/eterna-58w-5ft-fluorescent-with-diffuser

[TheBoy]

Now if my bloody sparky brother would pick up the bastid phone   

I'm guessing for garage, it doesn't have to be weatherproof. Any advantages to using non weatherproof - less to get dirty/aged etc?

[aaronjb]

The main reason I used the IP65 ones is that they're sturdier - so if I clout it accidentally with something I won't get covered in bits of falling glass dagger.. quite apart from the fact that the glass alone can end up a long way embedded into you, google images "fluorescent tube injuries" if you want to see why it's bad juju.. as long as you have a strong stomach, anyway!

[05omegav6]

The main reason I used the IP65 ones is that they're sturdier - so if I clout it accidentally with something I won't get covered in bits of falling glass dagger.. quite apart from the fact that the glass alone can end up a long way embedded into you, google images "fluorescent tube injuries" if you want to see why it's bad juju.. as long as you have a strong stomach, anyway!

Fortunately I had digested my breakfast

[aaronjb]

Fortunately mercury injuries like that are (I believe) pretty rare - certainly I know plenty of people who've cleaned up smashed tubes without having half their hand dissolve.. but I have seen a picture of a friend of mine with a chunk of tube sticking out of his arm after someone knocked it while he was standing under it 

[AndyRoid]

Any recommendations?

Don't buy the ones Mark got, the build quality was pants even on a good day.

Now if my bloody sparky brother would pick up the bastid phone   

You don't need one if you are changing like for like

I'm guessing for garage, it doesn't have to be weatherproof. Any advantages to using non weatherproof - less to get dirty/aged etc?

Non IP is cheaper, but flimsier.
If it's just hanging in the garage, it won't make any odds.

[AndyRoid]

Just to clarify Jaime, Mark (DTM) is right about the lights however the student decided to save an extra few quid by going for cheap Chinese crap fittings for me to work with which made the job 3 times longer as I had to make good on what the manufacturer couldn't.

If he ever does something like that to me again, I'm going to present him with a bill for a test & cert to curb his Ebeneezer ways 

[05omegav6]

Quite right too...

[chrisgixer]

Ah the old penny wise pound foolish approach. He'll make a "good" manager.

[Gaffers]

Just to clarify Jaime, Mark (DTM) is right about the lights however the student decided to save an extra few quid by going for cheap Chinese crap fittings for me to work with which made the job 3 times longer as I had to make good on what the manufacturer couldn't.

If he ever does something like that to me again, I'm going to present him with a bill for a test & cert to curb his Ebeneezer ways 

Which reminds me, once you are up and about I may have a little work to throw your way.  I am fitting the brewery in to the shed and I don't want to keep running an extension cable out to it

[Marks DTM Calib]

I have to say I have fitted plenty of those light fittings and never had an issue with fitting.

[chrisgixer]

I have to say I have fitted plenty of those light fittings and never had an issue with fitting.

I wonder if there is some confusion over which Mark is which.... Mark.

Mark says the ones Mark bought are not the ones Mark recommended Mark.


Regards

Mark

[aaronjb]

I wonder if there is some confusion over which Mark is which.... Mark.

Mark says the ones Mark bought are not the ones Mark recommended Mark.


Regards

Mark

 

[AndyRoid]

I have to say I have fitted plenty of those light fittings and never had an issue with fitting.

Mark as in Tunnie mate, not you.

When I finally did get the diffuser to let go and removed the tube, you could see it was clearly cheap crap.
Nothing in place to stop the tube conductors from dropping and resting against the diffuser when it was up on the ceiling, wafer thin diffusers cracking because you had to exert excessive force to release them from the fitting to start with, yada, yada.

[AndyRoid]

Which reminds me, once you are up and about I may have a little work to throw your way.  I am fitting the brewery in to the shed and I don't want to keep running an extension cable out to it

More than happy mate but you'll have to do the actual work to install as my strength/stamina is somewhat limited, but I am still strong enough to operate a meter and sign a bit of paper for you to get it legal and above board.

I have to say I have fitted plenty of those light fittings and never had an issue with fitting.

I wonder if there is some confusion over which Mark is which.... Mark.

Mark says the ones Mark bought are not the ones Mark recommended Mark.


Regards

Mark

Just noticed that......superb 

[TheBoy]

Just to clarify Jaime, Mark (DTM) is right about the lights however the student decided to save an extra few quid by going for cheap Chinese crap fittings for me to work with which made the job 3 times longer as I had to make good on what the manufacturer couldn't.

If he ever does something like that to me again, I'm going to present him with a bill for a test & cert to curb his Ebeneezer ways 

So the fittings MDTM recommended are good then? And tunnie bought something else?

Or have I misunderstood?

[chrisgixer]

Just to clarify Jaime, Mark (DTM) is right about the lights however the student decided to save an extra few quid by going for cheap Chinese crap fittings for me to work with which made the job 3 times longer as I had to make good on what the manufacturer couldn't.

If he ever does something like that to me again, I'm going to present him with a bill for a test & cert to curb his Ebeneezer ways 

So the fittings MDTM recommended are good then? And tunnie bought something else?

Or have I misunderstood?

Yep. Mark said.

[AndyRoid]

So the fittings MDTM recommended are good then? And tunnie bought something else?

Or have I misunderstood?

From what I remember of the original post I couldn't find anything wrong with Mark's original suggestion, however they didn't look the same "in the flesh" when I got to Tunnie's and it transpired that he had "had a result" (his words) when purchasing them.
I should have sussed then really, but I trusted him to follow instructions   

[The Sheriff]

So the fittings MDTM recommended are good then? And tunnie bought something else?

Or have I misunderstood?

From what I remember of the original post I couldn't find anything wrong with Mark's original suggestion, however they didn't look the same "in the flesh" when I got to Tunnie's and it transpired that he had "had a result" (his words) when purchasing them.
I should have sussed then really, but I trusted him to follow instructions 

Cheap Chinese copies of cheap Chinese lights.

[TheBoy]

So the fittings MDTM recommended are good then? And tunnie bought something else?

Or have I misunderstood?

From what I remember of the original post I couldn't find anything wrong with Mark's original suggestion, however they didn't look the same "in the flesh" when I got to Tunnie's and it transpired that he had "had a result" (his words) when purchasing them.
I should have sussed then really, but I trusted him to follow instructions 

And I thought you were clever

[AndyRoid]

So the fittings MDTM recommended are good then? And tunnie bought something else?

Or have I misunderstood?

From what I remember of the original post I couldn't find anything wrong with Mark's original suggestion, however they didn't look the same "in the flesh" when I got to Tunnie's and it transpired that he had "had a result" (his words) when purchasing them.
I should have sussed then really, but I trusted him to follow instructions 

And I thought you were clever

I should have sensed how tight he was when he was stalling on making the initial obligatory cuppa when I first arrived

[Marks DTM Calib]

As your on at the moment AndyRoid.

I have to install 2 off 3 phase distribution boards (one off 12 way and one off 6 way), any specific makes to go for and any to avoid (these are a little low voltage and current to what I am used to working with so I have little experience of the good n bad out there).

[AndyRoid]

Hager or Schneider Electric are two names that immediately spring to mind Mark

[Marks DTM Calib]

Hager or Schneider Electric are two names that immediately spring to mind Mark

That's good thanks, Schneider were who I was erring towards given I have used their 'larger' products. 

[AndyRoid]

No problem, just don't let Tunnie fulfil the purchase order 

[Shackeng]

As you are fitting new, have you considered T8 LED's?

[TheBoy]

As you are fitting new, have you considered T8 LED's?

I've changed most of the bulbs in the house to LED now, bar the lounge and dining room (can't find a suitable LED - shame, as these 2 rooms are the ones we use the most, and the lights take about 90s to come up to brightness).

Not yet brave enough to try LED "tubes", so will stick to traditional for now.

[VXL V6]

What about...

.... something like this?

[chrisgixer]

Noooo, much too flammable. 

[AndyRoid]

Noooo, much too flammable. 

[VXL V6]

Noooo, much too flammable. 

I think they'd give the place a certain charm, a sort of Downton Abbey in Brackley

[TheBoy]

Noooo, much too flammable. 

I think they'd give the place a certain charm, a sort of Downton Abbey in Brackley

Isn't that set around here? Or is that one of the other pointless, crap BBC dramas?

[TheBoy]

Fittings arrived. Lacking the enthusiasm to open the box to see what they are like...

Went for 4 x 5' in the end. That should stop me fumbling in the dark.

Little bro coming up to assist^* fitting at weekend


* thin excuse for some brotherly arsing about, plus he can do a cert for them...