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« Reply #45 on: 24 April 2012, 20:41:32 »

Hmm. That's got to be at least a tooth out, maybe 2. :o

prob 2. will tell you better in the morning.
however, the guy that fitted this is supposed to be an able mechanic on here. i dont think i would use him tbh.

was actually 1 tooth out on all cams.
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« Reply #46 on: 24 April 2012, 20:51:22 »

Hmm. That's got to be at least a tooth out, maybe 2. :o

prob 2. will tell you better in the morning.
however, the guy that fitted this is supposed to be an able mechanic on here. i dont think i would use him tbh.

was actually 1 tooth out on all cams.

Yep that's what I thought when I saw the pic of the tool near the water pump - that movement would equate to around one tooth.

I expect what happened was, the mechanic had routed the belt, fitted the lower idler, and whilst doing so transferred the slack from the tensioner side, over to the lower idler side, making it a tooth out on the crank - hence affecting all cams.

It's a mistake I made when I was first learning, a few years ago. (Only, I turned it over by hand, realised the mistake, and corrected it  ::) )


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« Reply #47 on: 24 April 2012, 21:00:15 »

sounds about right james. did the same on my 1st. tbh, i give them plenty of hand cranking for peace of mind, doesnt do any harm double & double checking again imho. :y
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« Reply #48 on: 24 April 2012, 21:02:00 »

sounds about right james. did the same on my 1st. tbh, i give them plenty of hand cranking for peace of mind, doesnt do any harm double & double checking again imho. :y

Hard to see online mate, but I'm not sure the position of the tensioner looked to clever, either...

At least now, you'll be able to put it right, and you still have a newish cambelt kit on there :y
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« Reply #49 on: 24 April 2012, 21:04:40 »

sounds about right james. did the same on my 1st. tbh, i give them plenty of hand cranking for peace of mind, doesnt do any harm double & double checking again imho. :y

Hard to see online mate, but I'm not sure the position of the tensioner looked to clever, either...

At least now, you'll be able to put it right, and you still have a newish cambelt kit on there :y

strange you say that, i think it wrong aswell.
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« Reply #50 on: 25 April 2012, 22:17:22 »

shouldnt the backing plate for the cambelt tensioner be marked up EB for a 99 3.0l, not 01?.
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« Reply #51 on: 27 April 2012, 13:29:33 »

shouldnt the backing plate for the cambelt tensioner be marked up EB for a 99 3.0l, not 01?.

No, it'll be the 01 on a 1999 3.0 model :y
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« Reply #52 on: 27 April 2012, 15:51:42 »

shouldnt the backing plate for the cambelt tensioner be marked up EB for a 99 3.0l, not 01?.

No, it'll be the 01 on a 1999 3.0 model :y

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« Reply #53 on: 28 April 2012, 09:19:44 »

ive delved a little deeper today, after locking the cams.....look how far the crank is out  :o no bloomin wonder it was gutless. i wont tell you who did the last cambelt change....yet :-*






talk about being sold a lemon. :-X

Hi Jon, I never knowingly sold this car to you, with the problems mate :-[

I had all the work done by an "OOFer" mechanic, as I know jack about engines etc. I trusted the guy to do the job and believed he'd done it right!

I've been shafted twice dealing with other members and it's not nice, so I for sure would NOT do it to someone else!   Especially as we were meeting up every month for a meet etc, that would be completely stupid to try and rip someone off then stick around!!

For what it's worth I'm sorry you've had the problems mate, I really am :(

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« Reply #54 on: 28 April 2012, 21:40:38 »

Hi guys,

Right, on my home computer where I can see these pics. love them ;)

however, how are guys telling that the timings out just from these pics?

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« Reply #55 on: 28 April 2012, 23:29:01 »

The cams are sitting in the correct position with the cam locks in place.The locking tool is screwed onto the crankshaft and it should be sitting snugly against the water pump,which it clearly isnt.Rotate the crank to get the tool against the water pump and all 4 cams are going to move out of position. :y
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« Reply #56 on: 29 April 2012, 00:20:36 »

Hi guys,

Right, on my home computer where I can see these pics. love them ;)

however, how are guys telling that the timings out just from these pics?

:)

i do have more pics showing the cams out with the crank locked, just havent uploaded as yet. :y
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« Reply #57 on: 29 April 2012, 19:23:15 »

a few more pics for you webby.  :y









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« Reply #58 on: 29 April 2012, 20:06:23 »

On which side had the head gasket gone?
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« Reply #59 on: 29 April 2012, 20:29:42 »

Hi Jon, I never knowingly sold this car to you, with the problems mate :-[

I had all the work done by an "OOFer" mechanic, as I know jack about engines etc. I trusted the guy to do the job and believed he'd done it right!

I've been shafted twice dealing with other members and it's not nice, so I for sure would NOT do it to someone else!   Especially as we were meeting up every month for a meet etc, that would be completely stupid to try and rip someone off then stick around!!

For what it's worth I'm sorry you've had the problems mate, I really am :(

I missed this... I don't think Jon was actually blaming you as he knows you didn't do the maintenance ;)
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