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Re: Can be done....
« Reply #30 on: 21 January 2013, 23:25:35 »

Ps, if my rough measuring is correct, the steering box will come right to the end of where the ht lead disappears into that black plastic bit on the ht lead cap.
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« Reply #31 on: 21 January 2013, 23:35:33 »

What is the expected output of that engine?  Which LS engine is it?
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« Reply #32 on: 21 January 2013, 23:37:34 »

One of these days one of us is going to have to get one on a hoist, drop it in and see what's what. All the calculation in the world won't tell you what offering one up will. ;)
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« Reply #33 on: 21 January 2013, 23:44:16 »

Dohc heads are way too big.
This is an LS v8 pic taken from the gear box end obviously.

Push rod actuated cams may be a little agricultural, but they do make for a very compact cylinder head.(runs off a single cam in the v)
Heads being fine for width in the omega engine bay. Main issue is the manifolds exiting, and the widest part being the spark plug leads/caps.

Afaict its an extremely compact, light, powerful, and reliable engine. Comparatively speaking.

No leaking sumps or cam cover gaskets. Coil pacs last longer. Longer service intervals. Only issue is getting it all in. And self control on the loud pedal once it is ;D

It looked like they may have trouble shutting the bonnet on the first video. A minor issue. :)
The one pictured is an ls3 iirc(?)

Power goes up with the ls* number

Early ls1 as in the one gm planned for the omega was about 320 iirc?
Ls2 a fair bit more
Ls3 over 400bhp.

I'm sure 2woody will have more accurate figures, but its not really a problem to get 400 out of 1-3 with basic tuning naturally aspirated. Super charging 500hp ish.

Robsys monaro puts put 500 iirc, with a sooohoooHOOOOper charger and monkish mapping. Which runs better with a more manly fuel pump. :)
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« Reply #34 on: 21 January 2013, 23:46:19 »

One of these days one of us is going to have to get one on a hoist, drop it in and see what's what. All the calculation in the world won't tell you what offering one up will. ;)

yep. It'll fit. Question is how much agro, and getting auxiliarys working. It's a bit tight at the front too, notice they moved the battery.
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« Reply #35 on: 21 January 2013, 23:51:01 »

One of these days one of us is going to have to get one on a hoist, drop it in and see what's what. All the calculation in the world won't tell you what offering one up will. ;)

yep. It'll fit. Question is how much agro, and getting auxiliarys working. It's a bit tight at the front too, notice they moved the battery.

Things like the battery are easily moved, though - into the boot if necessary.
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« Reply #36 on: 22 January 2013, 00:00:26 »

Wait up fella's.

We know the e39 'bay is similar in size, yet they fit a v10 in it without any inherent problems.

It's clear the Omega V8 wasn't produced because of financial issues rather than the commonly used 'cooling' excuse.
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« Reply #37 on: 22 January 2013, 00:04:11 »

Lets not forget the 6.2 fitted to a C Klass.  :-\
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« Reply #38 on: 22 January 2013, 00:06:06 »

Wait up fella's.

We know the e39 'bay is similar in size, yet they fit a v10 in it without any inherent problems.

It's clear the Omega V8 wasn't produced because of financial issues rather than the commonly used 'cooling' excuse.
Don't think the e39 has a steering box? IMO, reading between the lines, its was the closeness of the steering box, and the resulting narrowness of the headers on that cylinder that caused the problem.

IMO of course. ;)

Certainly the "internal cooling ways" description gm released doesn't stack up with the motor. It's as bullet proof as they ever get.
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« Reply #39 on: 22 January 2013, 00:07:50 »

Lets not forget the 6.2 fitted to a C Klass.  :-\

Oh yes let's. ;D

Do they have a manual box?
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« Reply #40 on: 22 January 2013, 00:08:05 »

Wait up fella's.

We know the e39 'bay is similar in size, yet they fit a v10 in it without any inherent problems.

It's clear the Omega V8 wasn't produced because of financial issues rather than the commonly used 'cooling' excuse.
Don't think the e39 has a steering box? IMO, reading between the lines, its was the closeness of the steering box, and the resulting narrowness of the headers on that cylinder that caused the problem.

IMO of course. ;)

Certainly the "internal cooling ways" description gm released doesn't stack up with the motor. It's as bullet proof as they ever get.

Steering box on the V8's  :y
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« Reply #41 on: 22 January 2013, 00:10:17 »

One of these days one of us is going to have to get one on a hoist, drop it in and see what's what. All the calculation in the world won't tell you what offering one up will. ;)

yep. It'll fit. Question is how much agro, and getting auxiliarys working. It's a bit tight at the front too, notice they moved the battery.

Things like the battery are easily moved, though - into the boot if necessary.
They moved the abs too. And obviously no ac yet. ::)
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« Reply #42 on: 22 January 2013, 00:11:04 »

Lets not forget the 6.2 fitted to a C Klass.  :-\

Oh yes let's. ;D

Do they have a manual box?

No - 7speed Auto IIRC until the latest variant.
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« Reply #43 on: 22 January 2013, 00:14:58 »

Lets not forget the 6.2 fitted to a C Klass.  :-\

Oh yes let's. ;D

Do they have a manual box?

No - 7speed Auto IIRC until the latest variant.
Tremac t5 box then, means a gm lump. Unless making one off bell housings. :o
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« Reply #44 on: 22 January 2013, 09:40:38 »

One of these days one of us is going to have to get one on a hoist, drop it in and see what's what. All the calculation in the world won't tell you what offering one up will. ;)

If someone brings an engine-less Omega round we can always try dropping the 390 in for giggles..  ;D
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