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Omega General Help / Re: Handbrake cable
« on: 22 February 2023, 18:34:15 »
yes i saw that too.
unfortunately it doesnt mention which side the longer one goes to !  but seeing as your problem only began after a new cable was fitted it is a good place to start.

Pretty confident this could resolve my issue - I'm hoping Geoff has laid the cable out as it should be on the car with the longer length being on the passenger side. At least I've got something worth checking now and can see what my lengths are when I remove the cable.

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Omega General Help / Re: Handbrake cable
« on: 22 February 2023, 09:35:13 »


This may have already been mentioned earlier in the thread, but do they both have the same part number ?
If not then there has to be a difference.
It's an assembly the compensator with N/S & O/S  cables fitted  ;)

Looking at spec (on ebay listings ) the cable appears to be the same length BOTH sides 1550mm 1550mm

the 15MM difference on my BRAND NEW cable  may be a manufacturing defect  :-\
It's a QH aftermarket cable ,15mm over 1550mm is 1%
that said , maybe the OP has a similar manufacturing defect  :-\
 or the cable HAS stretched one side  :-\
or it's NOT fitted or adjusted correctly  :-\

$19.50 EBAY
£32.30 ebay clicky

sorry to mislead , but the cable I have spare IS 15mm difference
(I laid it flat ,tight on the floor ,see saw level )

I've now found an article on here by geoffr70 that seems to answer the question and confirms what some have said above in this post about the lengths being different. Geoff has posted a picture of the cables which shows them to be different lengths and clearly notes this in the second paragraph of section 10 where he also advises getting it right first time. Here's the link to his article: https://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=102410.0


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Omega General Help / Re: Handbrake cable
« on: 21 February 2023, 10:11:40 »
at the end of theday its easy enough to dissconnect the cable and reverse it

I agree, just wanted to make sure I was on the right track before starting in case there was no difference in the cable lengths.

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Omega General Help / Re: Handbrake cable
« on: 20 February 2023, 10:59:44 »
Just compared a brand new QH branded omega /carlton cable from my hoard  :-X
one sides cable is 15mm longer ,get it the wrong way round on the car and that doubles the difference (30mm ish)

That is very interesting and would probably be enough to explain my issues and why the compensator bar doesn't sit nicely when adjusted. If this is deliberate and not just inconsistent manufacturing I'm surprised there's not a lot of info saying which side to fit the longer length to.

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Omega General Help / Re: Handbrake cable
« on: 19 February 2023, 16:39:02 »
When I replaced the snapped cable on my estate, I had to bend the outer cable retaining rings back into shape/alignment. Then it was just a matter of adjusting it correctly - slacken cable, adjust the brake shoes and then the cable. That would have been a lot easier if the designers weren't German, and fitted the compensator inside the car.

Interesting, when I get a chance I'll check the alignment of the retaining rings in case they have been bent as this could effectively alter the length of the cable.

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Omega General Help / Re: Handbrake cable
« on: 19 February 2023, 16:32:47 »
from what i can remember last time i fitted one the lengths are indeed different each side. either on the actual cable itself or the outer sheath.
the fact that the adjuster saddle isnt sitting square indicates a problem
either..
the cable is indeed handed and is the wrong war round.
the handbrake mechanism is wrongly adjusted or faulty otherwise.
the outer cable retainers are pulling through the eyes.this is a very common issue .the eyes are only a curl of metal rather than a solid ring.

Interesting, thanks, particularly if there is a difference in the cables or the sheaths as this may explain it, but there's no mention of any difference in Haynes. I may have to pick up a cheap one and lay it out on the ground (or the living room carpet if the wife's out!) just to satisfy my own curiosity. Pretty sure the retainers aren't pulling through the eyes as I had a good look along the cable when the car was on the ramp for the MOT.

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Omega General Help / Re: Handbrake cable
« on: 19 February 2023, 16:21:10 »
I've not replaced a cable on my omega (done many carlton ones, same cable), but on astra ,one side outer cable is slightly longer

That's interesting, thanks.

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Omega General Help / Re: Handbrake cable
« on: 19 February 2023, 16:19:56 »
Also, it one side isn't working, strip the handbrake mechanism inside the drum and clean it up.

That was an annual issue on my beloved Silver Bullet for some reason, never an issue on any of my other Omegas.

All is clean, free and working as it should be. I always clean the inside of the drums before adjusting and check the mechanism at the same time.

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Omega General Help / Re: Handbrake cable
« on: 19 February 2023, 16:15:39 »
and also to be completely sure make sure the return springs are present at each lever and the levers when adjusted are in the same relative place.

Both are present, relatively new and seem to be in the same relative place.

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Omega General Help / Re: Handbrake cable
« on: 19 February 2023, 13:53:42 »
Mark DTM did a really thorough guide on setting up the handbrake properly  ;)

I've seen the guide and that's exactly the way I adjust it, but it doesn't help with my current issue. I've changed several cables over the years and have always adjusted as in the guide but never had any issues until now.

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Omega General Help / Re: Handbrake cable
« on: 19 February 2023, 13:50:39 »
I take it that you are releasing the handbrake and then adjusting the star wheel inside each hub first before adjusting the cable. If one hub star wheel is set slacker than the other you can pull the handbrake on with all your might and one hub still won’t lock up.
Apologies if you are already setting it this way, just wanted to make sure before offering any further advice.  :y

Yes, that's the way I do it. Thanks.

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Omega General Help / Re: Handbrake cable
« on: 19 February 2023, 11:51:58 »
Thanks, clutching at straws really as I've had problems adjusting the handbrake leading to one failed MOT and only just passing the retest. The passenger side always adjusts ok and locks off on the rolling road but the OS is a problem and won't lock off. Its been like this ever since a new cable was fitted a few years back and no matter how careful I am with adjusting it the drivers side cable always seems a bit looser than the near side. I always go through the correct adjustment procedure slackening off the adjuster nut under the handbrake, etc, and the cables are correctly routed with no tight spots or indications of corrosion at the place where these normally snap. Under the car the compensator bar never seems to sit quite square and even here it feels that one side of the cable is looser than the other which is why I was wondering if the cables were slightly different lengths and had been fitted the wrong way round (though I've fitted these cables before and never worried about which way they were fitted and have had no issues so I didn't really think this was the answer). The drums are fine and the brake shoes are fine so I'm at a loss really. If the cables being different lengths could cause adjustment problems I'm wondering if the one fitted was faulty from the start - it was brand new when it was fitted and I've had problems since then, otherwise I'd be wondering if one side has simply stretched more than the other. Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated, thank you.

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Omega General Help / Handbrake cable
« on: 19 February 2023, 10:23:04 »
Hi, Are both sides of the handbrake cable on the 2.5 V6 estate the same length? If one side is slightly longer which side of the car does it go on? Thanks.

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Omega General Help / Re: Rear brake back plate
« on: 03 October 2021, 19:17:47 »
Enceladus, many thanks for your reply it is very helpful. My back plates are original and the pins definitely have the crosshead and are inserted from the outboard side into the keyslots. Looks like it might be worth trying one of the plates advertised as it looks like the type I need.

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Omega General Help / Re: Rear brake back plate
« on: 03 October 2021, 15:05:57 »
It was impossible to get the back plates some years ago, but as you have found someone in Germany has now started reproducing them. I ordered and had a garage fit one one or two years ago. 1994 Omega and wheelbearing changed. Part fit fine. Think i ordered from this site:
https://www.ankerblech.de/c/ankerbleche/omega-b
As i remember the design is the first type that was used on the early cars where there is just a pin and a spring. No cup. But as the handbrake shoes is the same across the range i guess they would fit any Omega B. As long as you get the  early type pins and springs for the shoes.

Thanks, that looks like the same place that I found as it has the same TBW card in the pic. My car is a 1996, so reasonably early too. I'm trying to remember now and will have to check but I think the head of the pin sits in the top of the spring and I don't think there's a cup washer on mine so this part sounds promising.

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