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Re: Inspired or suicidal?
« Reply #15 on: 07 August 2014, 19:20:18 »

US is big enough to survive, but you are correct that Western Europe is not. This is also why Israel will never let Iran become a nuclear power as it would only take about 5 nuclear bombs of a decent size to eliminate Israel, whereas Iran is a much bigger country with a dispersed population, which Israel's reportedly 80 nukes would not destroy.

Any major nuclear exchange the choice will probably be between a quick death and a slow one from radiation and starvation, due to high radiation levels and the following nuclear winter and probable ice age. :( :( :( :(
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« Reply #16 on: 07 August 2014, 19:37:04 »

Russia's agricultural sector is only a 4 pot with over 25% of land cultivated in Soviet times, no longer so, where roads and infrastructure have been ignored outside of Putin's main supports area of Western Russia (hence a rise in nationalism stoked, by Russian adventurism in Ukraine (Don't ask about the Siberian nationalist rally on 17th August, some of the Russian press had to hastily remove articles on this and have been officially sanctioned  ;D ;D ;D ))  and are no longer reachable. A shortage of finance means that cultivation is only running on 2 cylinders through lack of investment, hence the need to import 20-60% of different foods with an average of 48%, so no pressure then from banning western food producers. ;D ;D ;D Could their struggling agricultural sector pull the skin of a rice pudding, like a struggling Omega 4 pot, no there is no rice pudding. ;D ;D ;D

Soviet nostalgia is generally limited to the oldest Russian and Russian satellite country's generation, especially women. I'm sure they will thrilled at the queuing for food for what little supplies are available. Soviets seem to think that queuing is an efficient use of a countries productive time. ;D ;D ;D

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Yes, there will be some substitution, but food can not suddenly be magicked from somewhere it takes time to grow, so in countries which make up the shortfall, their prices will go up, they will also go up in Russia, which already has major inflation problems with falling real wages, so this will disproportionately affect the poor. There is talk of price caps on essential foods, which will guarantee their disappearance, as producers won't produce at a loss nor will shops sell. ;D ;D ;D

As one Russian wag said: The bad new is that with no food in the shops, so we will have to eat sh*t, the good news is that we have plenty of sh*t. ;D ;D ;D

A Ukrainian wag: We will be back to Russian tourists doing food runs to Ukraine or Russian locusts as they will be called. ;D ;D ;D (They will join the Colorado's in East Ukraine which is what the Ukrainians call the Russian Terrorists there with their St George's ribbons after the stripped shells of Colorado beetles.

I don't think Putin has many toes left from where he keeps shooting himself in the foot. His actions over the last 9 months have been highly irrational at a tactical and strategic level and what is meant to be a strategy to keep Putin in power is increasing his chances of demise, which IMO can't happen soon enough, providing it is a peaceful transition where in my view Putin will push the nuclear button if he thinks it will keep him in power longer (Many Russians view with their extensive shelters a nuclear exchange winnable). >:( >:( >:(




 ::)   Rods, we have seen many stories from west..  according to those Assad should have removed long ago.. ;D 


Putin is a longer story imo

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Re: Inspired or suicidal?
« Reply #17 on: 07 August 2014, 20:18:30 »

Who will be mainly affected by Russia's food sanctions:

http://www.rferl.org/contentinfographics/infographics/26519095.html
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« Reply #18 on: 07 August 2014, 20:33:28 »

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::)   Rods, we have seen many stories from west..  according to those Assad should have removed long ago.. ;D 


Putin is a longer story imo

Time will tell, personally I think Russia will go through another revolution, through weakness and more regions like Siberia, Volga Tartars, Chechnya will become independent states and Crimea will revert back to Ukraine. Putin is doing what he is doing, not from political strength but from political weakness.

The reality is that Russia on its $2tn economic strength is a minor regional power, with uncompetitive industrialised and agricultural sectors and are only staying afloat economically on their gas and oil exports. The EU and US by comparison both have GDP's of about $17tn each. If it wasn't for its nuclear arsenal and vast amount of Soviet era weapons, it would be safely ignored by the rest of the world.
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« Reply #19 on: 07 August 2014, 21:23:03 »

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::)   Rods, we have seen many stories from west..  according to those Assad should have removed long ago.. ;D 


Putin is a longer story imo

Time will tell, personally I think Russia will go through another revolution, through weakness and more regions like Siberia, Volga Tartars, Chechnya will become independent states and Crimea will revert back to Ukraine. Putin is doing what he is doing, not from political strength but from political weakness.

The reality is that Russia on its $2tn economic strength is a minor regional power, with uncompetitive industrialised and agricultural sectors and are only staying afloat economically on their gas and oil exports. The EU and US by comparison both have GDP's of about $17tn each. If it wasn't for its nuclear arsenal and vast amount of Soviet era weapons, it would be safely ignored by the rest of the world.


west couldnt remove even Fidel govt with  all sorts of economic measures.. talking about more is blx imo..
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« Reply #20 on: 07 August 2014, 21:33:33 »

Suicidal IMO.

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« Reply #22 on: 07 August 2014, 21:39:49 »

Chris , its funny to see when you put a last second finger on the subject ;D :y
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Re: Inspired or suicidal?
« Reply #23 on: 07 August 2014, 23:20:04 »

The Belarussians must be rubbing their hands as they have a great opportunity to transit Western food imports into Russia, at a cost of course.  ;)
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Re: Inspired or suicidal?
« Reply #24 on: 08 August 2014, 09:16:25 »

The Belarussians must be rubbing their hands as they have a great opportunity to transit Western food imports into Russia, at a cost of course.  ;)

yep, who'd have thought there was money in being a food-launderer! ;D
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