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[Sir Tigger KC]

A few weeks ago the wind caught my drivers door on the V70 and broke the door strap. 

At the time I wasn't too bothered as the door opened and closed easily, but at some point the door strap has caught the window track and bent it and now my window won't go down. 

I took the door card off yesterday, but there is only a small hole by the door strap to work through and although I had a go at un-bending the window track with a pair of stilsons, I didn't have much luck. 

Other than persisting with my gynecological efforts to unbend the window track through the little hole, any suggestions?    It seems to me that the window track is riveted into the door structure as far as I can tell... 

[Doctor Gollum]

Remove, repair/replace, refit

[Sir Tigger KC]

Easier said than done.... 

The inner door skin is not removable and even to replace the window mechanism you have work through a hole... 

I can't see how the window track can be removed to be honest, as it looks as though it as been riveted in place and then the inner door skin welded on. 

I'll have to have another look... 

[Andy B]

Easier said than done.... 

The inner door skin is not removable and even to replace the window mechanism you have work through a hole... 

I can't see how the window track can be removed to be honest, as it looks as though it as been riveted in place and then the inner door skin welded on. 

I'll have to have another look... 

You're lucky. The OUTER plastic door panel needs to come off my Smart Roadster to access the window mechanism   

[dave the builder]

that's inspirational Andy 
so use a can opener to remove the outer door skin Sir Tigger
then gaffer tape it back on 
job sorted in time for crimbo 

[Rangie]

Sounds like a trip to the breakers for a door to me .

[Andy B]

that's inspirational Andy 
so use a can opener to remove the outer door skin Sir Tigger
then gaffer tape it back on 
job sorted in time for crimbo 

 

[Doctor Gollum]

Mk5 Golfs have screwed on door skins... Must be a 'thing' 

[henryd]

Easier said than done.... 

The inner door skin is not removable and even to replace the window mechanism you have work through a hole... 

I can't see how the window track can be removed to be honest, as it looks as though it as been riveted in place and then the inner door skin welded on. 

I'll have to have another look... 

You're lucky. The OUTER plastic door panel needs to come off my Smart Roadster to access the window mechanism   

[Sir Tigger KC]

I thought Henry was going to impart words of wisdom, but.....   

[Nick W]

Easier said than done.... 

The inner door skin is not removable and even to replace the window mechanism you have work through a hole... 

I can't see how the window track can be removed to be honest, as it looks as though it as been riveted in place and then the inner door skin welded on. 

I'll have to have another look... 

you need a diagram of how the door assemblies fit together. Google should provide that.


Window tracks are usually inserted through the top of the door, and secured in place once the window has been fitted to its mechanism. That's normally bolts/screws, but as most cars that aren't VAG products don't need to have the windows serviced then rivets would be a good option. Rivets are a better fastener than bolts, and particularly screws, when securing to moving or vibrating sheetmetal. Drill them out and replace if necessary.

[STEMO]

Yeah. Get one of them bendy drill bits that goes around corners 

[henryd]

I thought Henry was going to impart words of wisdom, but.....   

Lol,Dr G had already done that so rather than repeat I removed text

[henryd]

have a butchers here

https://cdn4.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/Volvo-V70/74-INTERIOR-Front_Window_Regulator_Replacement/images_med/pic01.jpg

[Doctor Gollum]

What age is it? Post '07 the inner door skin should be Bolted on... Technically to remove it you first remove the door card followed by the glass. Presumably to avoid setting issues as the motor is attached to the door skin.

Removing glass is easy, but requires opening the window 265mm, then pop out two grommets, loosen two nuts a maximum of two turns and lift the window out arse end first

If you're as slightly built as I recall, then you should be able to get both arms and a head inside the door once the panel is off

[Doctor Gollum]

have a butchers here

https://cdn4.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/Volvo-V70/74-INTERIOR-Front_Window_Regulator_Replacement/images_med/pic01.jpg

Also clearly bolted on Removing the speaker might also improve visibility at the front of the door...

[henryd]

have a butchers here

https://cdn4.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/Volvo-V70/74-INTERIOR-Front_Window_Regulator_Replacement/images_med/pic01.jpg

Also clearly bolted on Removing the speaker might also improve visibility at the front of the door...

similar set up to the mk4 golf,I have one here in bits at the moment

[Sir Tigger KC]

Thanks Henry, but it's the wrong door unfortunately.    That's the P1 (98-01) door and mines the P2 (02-07). 

I'll pop the door card off again and take a photo... 

[Doctor Gollum]

Have you a Haynes manual for it?

[Sir Tigger KC]

Have you a Haynes manual for it?

No... 

There's a few 'How to' videos on changing the window regulator, but the knackered window channel is by the hinges and as said the only access is through a small hole. 

[Doctor Gollum]

Door liner and glass out, then remove the channel and repair or replace.

At risk of repeating myself 

Clear all the crap out of the way and you'll have all the access you need. Pull the door if it makes it easier to work on...

[Sir Tigger KC]

I'll have another look.... 

[Sir Tigger KC]

This is the same as my door and the small hatch at the front is where the knackered window channel is. 

I'll have another look tomorrow if it's dry to see how it's fixed in. 

[Doctor Gollum]

Pull the speaker as well

[henryd]

Pull the speaker as well

^^^ What DG said,that'll give you room

[Sir Tigger KC]

I pulled off the door card again this morning before the rain set in and removed the speaker as well. 

Unfortunately the window channel is pretty mangled and also is welded in, but I had a go at straightening it out anyway without success. 

The skies darkened and the wind picked up, so I hastily put it all back together and beat a retreat before the heavens opened to fight another day! 

Luckily I don't think I'll need to open the window for a while anyway! 

[Doctor Gollum]

New door it is then... 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Probably... 

What a pisser and all because I didn't get round to sorting a minor problem with a £10 part!   

The moral of the story is....

[aaronjb]

The moral of the story is....

Don't buy an Ovlov?

[Sir Tigger KC]

The moral of the story is....

Don't buy an Ovlov?

For a sub £1000 workhorse banger it's a great car and there's not a spot of rust, which is pretty good for a 16 year old with 165k on the clock. 

Although the drive is uninspiring and the turning circle is crap, the 2.4 D5 is pretty lively and has plenty of grunt when needed.  I'd have another, but I'd try and find the AWD version or maybe the XC70, as it really should be RWD!