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Re: The Pilgrim Sumo - since you asked
« Reply #15 on: 17 December 2019, 10:04:33 »


Indeed it is. It makes good power, for the time. And if you fit a blower, I suspect 250bhp/tonne would be achieved. I suspect that would be barely enough to start the monster that Aaron is fitting to his, but then again, the two cars are in no way comparable anyway.

The car does sound good, in its own way, it's 2.5" through with just a single silencer. It's just 'not a v8'.

A popular application (with a couple of other mods) for the engine is to drop it into a Morris minor/traveller. Which is probably quite amusing at the traffic light grand Prix.  ???


Fiat twin cams were popular in Minors for a couple of reasons:
It's short and has a small gearbox so it fits without cutting the bulkhead where the torsion bars live.
They were cheap because rusty Fiats were everywhere. That they made a bit more power than a Pinto(which doesn't easily fit) was a bonus.


A healthy 1275 A-series will quickly kill a Minor axle, so swapping a stronger one, Escort for example, was necessary
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Re: The Pilgrim Sumo - since you asked
« Reply #16 on: 17 December 2019, 10:10:54 »

Re the wiring, likewise Airbus... All white, unless someone runs a drill through it, at which point releases magic smoke and goes black. Apparently  ::)

Ships and Locos are the same, grey or black wiring with cable idents on both ends

Why's that then?  :-\

Because it keeps someone like my mate Stu in a job? ;D ;D
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Re: The Pilgrim Sumo - since you asked
« Reply #17 on: 17 December 2019, 11:42:05 »

At a guess, three possible reasons: It means you can have spare/additional wires in the loom in case of upgrade / failure without mucking up the wiring diagram. There are only so many colours in the world. And there are colourblind engineers.

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Because it keeps someone like my mate Stu in a job? ;D ;D
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That too  :y
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Re: The Pilgrim Sumo - since you asked
« Reply #18 on: 17 December 2019, 11:46:41 »

Not that I do any electrickery at work anymore ... there are loads of cables at work where there are loads of individual black wires inside but numbered. The only coloured wire is the earth.
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Re: The Pilgrim Sumo - since you asked
« Reply #19 on: 17 December 2019, 15:12:43 »

Shere number of systems ;) on an aircraft any single moving part has at least one sensor on it. It would be impossible to have a different wire colour for each circuit...



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Re: The Pilgrim Sumo - since you asked
« Reply #20 on: 18 December 2019, 13:44:13 »

Re the wiring, likewise Airbus... All white, unless someone runs a drill through it, at which point releases magic smoke and goes black. Apparently  ::)

Ships and Locos are the same, grey or black wiring with cable idents on both ends

Why's that then?  :-\

Wiring qty is massive, a reasonable vessel control system has 5000-10000 inputs with processing platforms even more.

That's all in addition to the internal cabinet wiring, power and propulsion system, cranes, fire and gas, HVAC etc etc.

So colour coding is not an option and so a standard colour plus cable ID is used, even sensor and power cables can be the same colour (depends on the approval body e.g. Lloyds, ABS etc or the customer preference)
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Re: The Pilgrim Sumo - since you asked
« Reply #21 on: 18 December 2019, 14:59:14 »

Re the wiring, likewise Airbus... All white, unless someone runs a drill through it, at which point releases magic smoke and goes black. Apparently  ::)

Ships and Locos are the same, grey or black wiring with cable idents on both ends

Why's that then?  :-\

Wiring qty is massive, a reasonable vessel control system has 5000-10000 inputs with processing platforms even more.

That's all in addition to the internal cabinet wiring, power and propulsion system, cranes, fire and gas, HVAC etc etc.

So colour coding is not an option and so a standard colour plus cable ID is used, even sensor and power cables can be the same colour (depends on the approval body e.g. Lloyds, ABS etc or the customer preference)
What about the first mate's dildo charger?  ;D
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Re: The Pilgrim Sumo - since you asked
« Reply #22 on: 18 December 2019, 15:04:48 »

So colour coding is not an option and so a standard colour plus cable ID is used.

Clearly the sadist who originally built my car got exactly 50% of this memo.  ::)

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