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Re: Won't start !!!
« Reply #15 on: 11 February 2017, 01:07:49 »

Swap out both purple relays and try again :y
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Re: Won't start !!!
« Reply #16 on: 11 February 2017, 11:37:29 »

Sounding very similar to the issue with Tony H's 2.5 , new crank sensor and it still won't start, watching with interest!
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Re: Won't start !!!
« Reply #17 on: 11 February 2017, 12:59:07 »

Swap out both purple relays and try again :y

As you know me to be a genuine person, good Dr, I have to ask the following :-[ :-[ :-[

Where do the relays live.
Do you mean buy two more and swap them, or..
Take them both out and swap with each other.
Finally....what do they do !!
 But more to the point, is this a James job, or can I do it without cocking everything up :-[
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Re: Won't start !!!
« Reply #18 on: 11 February 2017, 13:22:09 »

Swap out both purple relays and try again :y

As you know me to be a genuine person, good Dr, I have to ask the following :-[ :-[ :-[

Where do the relays live.
Do you mean buy two more and swap them, or..
Take them both out and swap with each other.
Finally....what do they do !!
 But more to the point, is this a James job, or can I do it without cocking everything up :-[
   
Terbs, looks like the good Dr. is off line  . .  . but he means just swap them around. they live in the triangular relay/fuse box by the battery .  They are the only 2 purple ones at the bulkhead end .    HTH     ;)   Is this a 2.6 engine ?

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Re: Won't start !!!
« Reply #19 on: 11 February 2017, 13:27:55 »

Further to omegod's post........and firstly let me say I use genuine VX stuff where applicable..

But...if there is doubt as to the cause, and we are going to try Crank Sensor, would it be acceptable to buy a cheap one, just to see if it starts. I would then get a genuine VX one to replace the cheap one, and keep that as an emergency.
I have seen prices ranging from £18 to a massive £184 for the same part (non genuine) :o

Yes Al...its the 2.6 Estate (Gold)
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Re: Won't start !!!
« Reply #20 on: 11 February 2017, 13:38:17 »

Further to omegod's post........and firstly let me say I use genuine VX stuff where applicable..

But...if there is doubt as to the cause, and we are going to try Crank Sensor, would it be acceptable to buy a cheap one, just to see if it starts. I would then get a genuine VX one to replace the cheap one, and keep that as an emergency.
I have seen prices ranging from £18 to a massive £184 for the same part (non genuine) :o

Yes Al...its the 2.6 Estate (Gold)

Can you not just "borrow" one from one of the other cars just for testing purposes ?
Has to be another 2.6/3.2 though
Presume you have all ignition/dash lights when turning key to start ?
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Re: Won't start !!!
« Reply #21 on: 11 February 2017, 13:42:53 »

I suppose that is an option,Al...the saloon is a 2.6....just wary of disturbing that engine while its running fine. :(
All lights are on...James did every diagnosis last night, maff, plugs, fuel, etc etc. Whirls over like a good 'un, but no spark !!!
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« Reply #22 on: 11 February 2017, 13:47:44 »

I suppose that is an option,Al...the saloon is a 2.6....just wary of disturbing that engine while its running fine. :(
All lights are on...James did every diagnosis last night, maff, plugs, fuel, etc etc. Whirls over like a good 'un, but no spark !!!

Can understand that Terbs,  you don't want to bugger that one .
IMO  crank sensor is the prime candidate . . . think you need to dismiss that first :-\

 
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Re: Won't start !!!
« Reply #23 on: 11 February 2017, 13:53:09 »

For the price of a cheap one, its a no brainer. I am under the impression that a cheap one will work....but its for how long is the question !!!!
As I said, if it starts, then I would shell out for the pucker job. Probably have a go at those relay things if it stops snowing !!!!
Got two cars working, so not dire urgent :y
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Re: Won't start !!!
« Reply #24 on: 11 February 2017, 13:58:03 »

For the price of a cheap one, its a no brainer. I am under the impression that a cheap one will work....but its for how long is the question !!!!
As I said, if it starts, then I would shell out for the pucker job. Probably have a go at those relay things if it stops snowing !!!!

Those purple relays do  fuel pump & injectors I  think  :-\      The good Dr. will advise, & if these will cause a "no spark" issue  . . .but unlikely IMO
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Re: Won't start !!!
« Reply #25 on: 11 February 2017, 14:02:36 »

Have you bought that bloody crank sensor yet  ;D

If so I will pop over and we can fire her up :y
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Re: Won't start !!!
« Reply #26 on: 11 February 2017, 14:06:56 »

No I haven't James...just going to send for one !
Patience man, patience ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Won't start !!!
« Reply #27 on: 11 February 2017, 14:08:34 »

Have you bought that bloody crank sensor yet  ;D

If so I will pop over and we can fire her up :y

 ;D ;D  like your confidence James  ;D ;D ;D   
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Re: Won't start !!!
« Reply #28 on: 11 February 2017, 15:30:04 »

No I haven't James...just going to send for one !
Patience man, patience ;D ;D ;D

i have a spare here if you want it for testing :y
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Re: Won't start !!!
« Reply #29 on: 11 February 2017, 15:45:27 »

No I haven't James...just going to send for one !
Patience man, patience ;D ;D ;D

i have a spare here if you want it for testing :y

Thanks for your kind offer Paul, but I have ordered a cheapy for test purposes. Can't get up to you just yet due to commitments, but thanks again :y Top man :y
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