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[star_whites]

At least yours has only skipped a couple of teeth. Mine sounds much worse. think its a full stripdown again  

[Marks DTM Calib]

I assume the plug leads on the 2-4-6 bank are connected to the DIS correctly (they do not connect as 2-4-6!)

[star_whites]

Yes Mark the plugs leads are correct, I made a drawing prior to stipping them off to ensure they went back correct.

I've not checked to see if the timing is correct yet as awaiting my Brother whos a mechanic. He wants to see it as it is to check it over. Next job will be to turn it into top dead centre and check if everything is in line. Thats if it will allow me to turn it!

Quick question, if there is a bent valve will it allow me to turn it over or will it just lock when trying to turn it??  :-?

[Bent valve]

What do you mean IF there is a bent valve? there IS one and I'm not stopping you turning it over

[star_whites]

Ok heres a posibility.

The engine does not appear to be turning at all.

The timing belt is in place and the timing looks ok. However due to none of the gears turning we are wondering if its the starter motor that may have given up the ghost and is not engaging hence the juddering noise???

[JamesV6CDX]

Ok heres a posibility.

The engine does not appear to be turning at all.

The timing belt is in place and the timing looks ok. However due to none of the gears turning we are wondering if its the starter motor that may have given up the ghost and is not engaging hence the juddering noise???

If it's all lined up, does it turn by hand?

[Bent valve]

 Are you saying that the engine wont turn over at all? if so try removing the plugs, you may have water in a cylinder causing it to lock up.

[star_whites]

Ummmm not thought of that. I would hope there wouldnt be any water in there as we have just resealed both heads!

[M Kerr]

Mine turned over beautiful with bent valves!

[star_whites]

Thinking about it, it cannot be water in a piston as the water level has not gone down so can rule that one out.

The suns shining today so when I get home we are going to try and manually turn the engine over to check that. Then its to attemp and change the starter motor.

WIll keep you all informed  :-/

[Marks DTM Calib]

Is the engine turning over or not?

And check te timing.

Note, only turn the engine clockwise, going anti clockwise can result in the belt jumping teeth.

[star_whites]

Will let you know shortly James as I am just about to leave work. So will post in a couple of hours.  

[Alex Wood]

You say there's a possibility of a failed starter motor: if the engine turns by hand, you might want to try sticking some jump leads on. I once replaced the flywheel on a 24v Senator because of juddering, grinding noises coming from it when I attempted to start it. Actually all that had happened was the battery was discharged and the starter was making a right drama of trying and failing to turn the engine!

What caught me out was that I'd never heard the noise before (when Monza batteries go flat there's no noise at all!) so I assumed it to be something much more serious than it was.

If your car sat around for a while waiting to be put back together, the battery could be a candidate!

EDIT: like yours, my car fired up to begin with but died again, flooding the engine with that nice rich cold start mixture. Subsequent attempts to start it sounded like there was no compression because the petrol had washed the oil out of the bores, then the battery gave up and the grinding noise started.

[star_whites]

Ok heres an update. Ive stripped all the breather box out and removed fan belt.

Attempted to turn bottom and it turns, however as it turns the top cams start to move and then jump back and the bottom jumps on the belt without actually moving it.

The belt around the cam appears tought however the bottom feels a little slack so I think that one of the adjusters may have loosened off.

Now going to go and turn everything back to tdc and try and reset the belt then see what happens.

[JamesV6CDX]

the bottom jumps on the belt without actually moving it.

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Oh heck!
Good luck - start again with that timing and don't turn on the key until you're sure it's fine by hand...