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[Entwood]

My concern is that 2 months ago the wear was even, now it is markedly not so, something has changed ..  

Did you see thie tires yourself 2 months ago or are we relying on the Mot tester to spot it AND pass on the info as an advisory? I cant think of anything other than set up that would cause this? Anyone...?

I clean the car regularly, and check/change the tyre pressures a lot (due to towing the pikey wagon) so I think I have noticed the wear fairly quickly.

My bit about the MOT is really that they check for wear/damage etc in the suspension (don't they ??) when they stick that pry bar in and waggle it about, so if there was any bad wear in wishbones/drop links etc it would (should ?)  have been picked up ?

I'm getting more convinced a trip to WIM for a full mechanical check might be the answer.

[feeutfo]

just out of curiosity i was told my miggy needs all wheel tracking could this be true as both back tyres had inner edge wear???

Could well be. Or you carry alot of weight habitually?
Edit. In the boot i ment. Sorry. :-)

He does ...... A sodding great tank of gas!  

Yes, need to add the geometry set up bill to the total price of an lpg install imho. Will be doing mine again, it has had 60litre donut tank added plus mv6 front suspension and have just fitted a new vx omega rear bush. When the other bush and rear suspension is done off to wim it will go. Then new discs and that had better bloody be all it needs for a while. My back is killing me.

Might be some confusion here (Thanks Andy    )

I have wear on the FRONT tyres and an LPG tank at the back ...

Sonikhead has wear on the BACK tyres ... and I have no idea if he has a LPG or not ......

 

So you do. I was confuddled with Chris's reply.      

Was replying to sonichead Andy. Presumed you knew sonichead and that he had lpg. I did wonder for a minute. Anyway....

[feeutfo]

My concern is that 2 months ago the wear was even, now it is markedly not so, something has changed ..  

Did you see thie tires yourself 2 months ago or are we relying on the Mot tester to spot it AND pass on the info as an advisory? I cant think of anything other than set up that would cause this? Anyone...?

I clean the car regularly, and check/change the tyre pressures a lot (due to towing the pikey wagon) so I think I have noticed the wear fairly quickly.

My bit about the MOT is really that they check for wear/damage etc in the suspension (don't they ??) when they stick that pry bar in and waggle it about, so if there was any bad wear in wishbones/drop links etc it would (should ?)  have been picked up ?

I'm getting more convinced a trip to WIM for a full mechanical check might be the answer.

Guess so. Worth a jack and wiggle first? You might spot something. But you dont mention any change in the way the car drives, i take it you have not noticed any pulling or steering wheel out of centre? No different feel at the wheel. Would have thought it would stand out from normal driving if its come on quickly. Wim say to check bushes idler and springs as im sure you know.

[Entwood]

My concern is that 2 months ago the wear was even, now it is markedly not so, something has changed ..  

Did you see thie tires yourself 2 months ago or are we relying on the Mot tester to spot it AND pass on the info as an advisory? I cant think of anything other than set up that would cause this? Anyone...?

I clean the car regularly, and check/change the tyre pressures a lot (due to towing the pikey wagon) so I think I have noticed the wear fairly quickly.

My bit about the MOT is really that they check for wear/damage etc in the suspension (don't they ??) when they stick that pry bar in and waggle it about, so if there was any bad wear in wishbones/drop links etc it would (should ?)  have been picked up ?

I'm getting more convinced a trip to WIM for a full mechanical check might be the answer.

Guess so. Worth a jack and wiggle first? You might spot something. But you dont mention any change in the way the car drives, i take it you have not noticed any pulling or steering wheel out of centre? No different feel at the wheel. Would have thought it would stand out from normal driving if its come on quickly. Wim say to check bushes idler and springs as im sure you know.

Car handling does not appear to have changed at all. Springs have been checked visually, the "jack and wiggle" approach will only work if you know what to wiggle and how much .. in my case I know neither !! As to checking bushes and idlers .... havn't got a scoobie !!

So WIM it is .. I'll phone 'em Thursday

[Turk]

Had a full geometric done this afternoon and the car is now spot on. No pitching in corners, no tramlining and no pulling to the left.
Full laser set up used and then went round the car again "old school style",  checking the tracking with a calibrated metal rod and a calibrated angle bubble guage for the camber.  
£50.00 well spent    

[Entwood]

The beast is booked into WIM for next Tuesday for a full check over ... wonder what they'll find ..

[Lazydocker]

.....CUT......
My concern is that 2 months ago the wear was even, now it is markedly not so, something has changed ..  

......CUT......

My bit about the MOT is really that they check for wear/damage etc in the suspension (don't they ??) when they stick that pry bar in and waggle it about, so if there was any bad wear in wishbones/drop links etc it would (should ?)  have been picked up ?

Unfortunately the MOT tester is only checking for excessive wear, which is down to personal opinion.

Incidentally, having spoken at length with the guy who does my MOT's he told me that they have to buy Pass/Fail/Advisory paperwork in one pack, which only contains about 10 advisory sheets I wonder if this has any effect on testers issuing advisories? :-/ :-/ :-? :-?

[Kevin Wood]

I had a chat with my MOT guy about acceptable levels of play in suspension when I got the Westfield done this year (computer insists on him taking 50 minutes to do the test when it only takes him 15 minutes to get round it!).

I came away thinking that it'd be dificult to keep the damned thing on the road before he'd fail anything for play.

Kevin

[arlee219]

have a similar problem, but my mechanic told me it's beacuse I carry 120ltr LPG tang in the boot. Got the tracking done last summer and that improved things a little... still... have to take turns at the lower speed )))

[Lazydocker]

have a similar problem, but my mechanic told me it's beacuse I carry 120ltr LPG tang in the boot. Got the tracking done last summer and that improved things a little... still... have to take turns at the lower speed )))

That must have been a squeeze

My 90L only just fitted under the bose shelf, although I could have gone longer (100L) if I'd needed to but I think it would have been a real pain fitting it

[VXL V6]

.....CUT......
My concern is that 2 months ago the wear was even, now it is markedly not so, something has changed ..  

......CUT......

My bit about the MOT is really that they check for wear/damage etc in the suspension (don't they ??) when they stick that pry bar in and waggle it about, so if there was any bad wear in wishbones/drop links etc it would (should ?)  have been picked up ?

Unfortunately the MOT tester is only checking for excessive wear, which is down to personal opinion.

Incidentally, having spoken at length with the guy who does my MOT's he told me that they have to buy Pass/Fail/Advisory paperwork in one pack, which only contains about 10 advisory sheets I wonder if this has any effect on testers issuing advisories? :-/ :-/ :-? :-?

'Excessive' is the word for MOT level, both of my Omega's passed their MOT's as far as wishbone bushes are concerned, both had new wishbones fitted months later by WIM due to excessive play in the bushes meaning that the Geometry couldn't be set.
The difference in handling is very noticable.

My current car has now had complete front and rear suspension replaced and drives and handles totally differently to the original 65K suspension it sat on.

[arlee219]

have a similar problem, but my mechanic told me it's beacuse I carry 120ltr LPG tang in the boot. Got the tracking done last summer and that improved things a little... still... have to take turns at the lower speed )))

That must have been a squeeze

My 90L only just fitted under the bose shelf, although I could have gone longer (100L) if I'd needed to but I think it would have been a real pain fitting it

Checked capacity independently couple of times Couldn't believe it. It's polish make. Said to be a very good one

[Entwood]

Okies .. back from WIM .... reason for my tyre wear is very simple ..and why the local idiots couldn't see it is amazing ......

Worn wishbone bushes. Nowt else. Drop links/springs/other stuff all checked out as good .. just the wishbones knackered.

So, best place/price for wishbones ?? and can I do them myself

Off to see if I can find a "how-to" ... but any advice gratefuly accepted

EDIT  ::  found this thread

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1242763288

and following Mark DTM's advice been onto autovaux ... a pair of Lemforder wishbones + required bolts are on their way ..

Also found this "how to"

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152986949

is there anything else I need/should know

EDIT #2

Reading the "book of lies" (Haynes) there is no mention of wishbones.. is the posh name "Front Lower Suspension Arm"  ??

Pretty please ..

[tunnie]

Okies .. back from WIM .... reason for my tyre wear is very simple ..and why the local idiots couldn't see it is amazing ......

Worn wishbone bushes. Nowt else. Drop links/springs/other stuff all checked out as good .. just the wishbones knackered.

So, best place/price for wishbones ?? and can I do them myself

Off to see if I can find a "how-to" ... but any advice gratefuly accepted

Looks like it will be the same for me too then 

Luckily i already have them, i bought pattern can't remember how much. Not a lot....

Think i will chuck mine in the boot and ask WIM to replace them.

[platty]

Reading the "book of lies" (Haynes) there is no mention of wishbones.. is the posh name "Front Lower Suspension Arm"  ??

Pretty please ..

Yep - I suppose they probably give it a 1 out of 5 do they?   :-/;D