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These are Great value & christ dont they work well!!!
« on: 21 March 2012, 02:08:14 »

Hi guys if anybody is replacing there front discs you've got to get a pair of these!! i fitted them today & have just driven 185miles...

now normally with new discs & pads they are shite for ages until bed in!! or you end up cracking the new pads by accident braking too hard before they have run in...

I priced up standard discs from 3 local motor robbing factors & my local rather useless vauxhall dealer... prices between £42 & £120 pair +vat on them prices!!! 1 guess who the £120 quote was from!! & these are for standard!!

Anyway.. the normal 5/10 mile pull to left right/right left & then wow!!! Nearly went threw the soddin screen!!!

After the 185miles they pull up true nice & straight & are getting sharper & sharper & are most defo worth the money!!

£34.99 a pair inc VAT yes thats right!! £34.99 A PAIR INC VAT!!! CROSSDRILLED!! GROOVED!! & VENTED!!

Not only do they look good but they work way better than the standard discs even after only 10/20miles!!

So go get yourselves a bargin!! that is defo worth every penny of the small amount of cash!!!

Performance discs that are cheeper than standard!!!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110765289107?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

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« Reply #1 on: 21 March 2012, 03:32:50 »

theese look good & mega cheap.
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« Reply #2 on: 21 March 2012, 04:02:23 »

Dam thats a good bargain!!
Now is there Any chance they would do for a 2.2 facelift  :D
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« Reply #3 on: 21 March 2012, 06:09:20 »

Ive been looking at these for ages on the bay,shall get some next month  :y
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« Reply #5 on: 21 March 2012, 07:22:17 »

I hope your enthisasm lasts...

Results here over the last 5 1/2 years show virtually no cheap pattern disks last well.

They are all great to begin with, but in a few weeks / months the juddering will set in.

Ive just replaced a virtually new set (mintex) on one of our cars, with genuine, as I KNOW they will last well and perform perfectly.  couldnt stand the juddering of the others.

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« Reply #6 on: 21 March 2012, 07:25:09 »

As with tyres, judge thier quality over thier entire life.
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« Reply #7 on: 21 March 2012, 08:15:56 »

Cheap discs won't last long at all, had a set on my Omega before they were shit after a few thousand miles.
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« Reply #8 on: 21 March 2012, 08:19:03 »

They do look good and they are cheap but don't waste your money, they won't last long ::)
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« Reply #9 on: 21 March 2012, 08:57:24 »

As others have said, I hope you have found a pattern set of discs that will go against the experiences over time on here.

For me, genuine only (on TC) are the best value because they are proven to work and last. That reminds me... Must start thinking about doing the front discs on mine ::)
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« Reply #10 on: 21 March 2012, 22:23:05 »

In the 8 years I've had my MV6, I've probably had about 4 sets of genuine GM, and 3 sets of pattern.

GM's always changed due to wear and the inside face corrosion problem, but good for a couple of years. None of the pattern ones lasted more than 2 months without warping.

I would class myself as reasonably heavy on brakes... ...pads last about 5k
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« Reply #11 on: 21 March 2012, 22:29:43 »

In the 8 years I've had my MV6, I've probably had about 4 sets of genuine GM, and 3 sets of pattern.

GM's always changed due to wear and the inside face corrosion problem, but good for a couple of years. None of the pattern ones lasted more than 2 months without warping.

I would class myself as reasonably heavy on brakes... ...pads last about 5k
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King nora. Even driving like a idiot, I get 20k out of mine :-\ I'm obviously not trying :-[ :-X
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« Reply #12 on: 21 March 2012, 22:50:23 »

Same experience - pattern discs great at first, w*nked out in a couple of thousand miles (Excess judder).

Genuine Vx discs & pads (on TC :y) last well without judder  ;)

Op (Zippy2012) full marks for your enthusiasm but 185 miles is 185 miles not thousands - hope yours last ok but for that price they are likely to be krap  ???
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« Reply #13 on: 22 March 2012, 00:21:54 »

Well all i can do is keep you all posted on how they do,  ???

the company i got them from has only just started importing these discs, i would say i drive my mig quite hard to be honest & even racing back tonight against my mates supra across country no brake fade & were getting better, ide even forgotten that im still ment to be bedding them in there so good! lets hope they last!!

1 main reason brake discs warp tho is heavy braking from 50 60 70+ to a stop & sitting with your foot on the brake slowly bending a hot disc out of shape... But im sure most of you knew that already...  :-\

as i say all i can do is keep you all informed.. but they do look good to so if you do drive like miss daisy & have open spoked alloys they look great & are a cheep mod that at mo work well.... But we shall see...  :y
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« Reply #14 on: 22 March 2012, 00:38:05 »

Well all i can do is keep you all posted on how they do,  ???

the company i got them from has only just started importing these discs, i would say i drive my mig quite hard to be honest & even racing back tonight against my mates supra across country no brake fade & were getting better, ide even forgotten that im still ment to be bedding them in there so good! lets hope they last!!

1 main reason brake discs warp tho is heavy braking from 50 60 70+ to a stop & sitting with your foot on the brake slowly bending a hot disc out of shape... But im sure most of you knew that already...  :-\
as i say all i can do is keep you all informed.. but they do look good to so if you do drive like miss daisy & have open spoked alloys they look great & are a cheep mod that at mo work well.... But we shall see...  :y

That can be a problem with Auto's as I keep reminding swmbo...... ::) ::) :-X
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« Reply #15 on: 22 March 2012, 02:33:36 »

Shame they don't sell the rear set as well  :-\
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« Reply #16 on: 22 March 2012, 08:26:45 »

Shame they don't sell the rear set as well  :-\
they do but really........
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« Reply #17 on: 22 March 2012, 11:18:07 »

can't see them lasting at that price
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« Reply #18 on: 22 March 2012, 11:24:50 »

Also once you add in pads too, not far off trade club prices.

Its around £85 for a set on trade? Looking at £55+ easy after getting pads to go with those eBay discs.
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« Reply #19 on: 22 March 2012, 20:51:02 »

Near £100 for trade club disc/pad set on tc. It's gone up.
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« Reply #20 on: 22 March 2012, 21:29:30 »

Just done the discs on mine. Used Apec discs and Mintex pads. Cost me about 70 quid. Must say though what a transformation but then mine had a inch wide band of scale around the inside face  :-[ :-[ :-[. Bloody smelt bad as well for the first couple of miles
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« Reply #21 on: 22 March 2012, 21:41:36 »

Just done the discs on mine. Used Apec discs and Mintex pads. Cost me about 70 quid. Must say though what a transformation but then mine had a inch wide band of scale around the inside face  :-[ :-[ :-[. Bloody smelt bad as well for the first couple of miles
Had no success with Mintex pads on Omega either....
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« Reply #22 on: 22 March 2012, 22:43:30 »

What issues have you had? I always try to use Mintex or EBC. I know there's probably better pads out there but these seem to work well enough. On the GSI Carlie I've currently got EBC yellows front and rear which I used at Marham track day twice without any issues. In fact coupled with synthetic brake fluid and steal hoses no fade all day
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« Reply #23 on: 22 March 2012, 22:53:26 »

In the 8 years I've had my MV6, I've probably had about 4 sets of genuine GM, and 3 sets of pattern.

GM's always changed due to wear and the inside face corrosion problem, but good for a couple of years. None of the pattern ones lasted more than 2 months without warping.

I would class myself as reasonably heavy on brakes... ...pads last about 5k

Think we can put that down as the "understatement of the decade"  ;) . Wow, 5K.
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« Reply #24 on: 22 March 2012, 22:59:30 »

What issues have you had? I always try to use Mintex or EBC. I know there's probably better pads out there but these seem to work well enough. On the GSI Carlie I've currently got EBC yellows front and rear which I used at Marham track day twice without any issues. In fact coupled with synthetic brake fluid and steal hoses no fade all day
Quite like EBC Redstuff, but won't use on my own cars as it would catch Mrs TB out. Not driven one with Yellows yet.

The (relatively) cheap Mintex ones overheat too easily, and then loose all feel.  TC ones are cheaper, and take more abuse before overheating, and IME, the overheating of these should be taken as a warning, as you normally have a couple of good stops left before the fluid goes.

I'd love to try the OE ones, but the cost prohibits me, unless they last 4 times as long as TC...
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« Reply #25 on: 22 March 2012, 23:06:33 »

EBC seem ok (so far) little difference in feel
£135 for standard disc with green pads.

Tc front axle set is cheaper, at £100 incl vat. With tc pads alone at £14. It's a no brainier really.


Although I want to try oe pads with ebc discs. Might work well. Certainly not a cheap combo though.
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« Reply #26 on: 22 March 2012, 23:18:30 »

If your worried about red stuff catching you out then don't try the yellow!!! Very very wooden until you get them hot. Discs on the Carlie are genuine ones which I've had grooved. Work really well all be it they are a bit noisy. Not the best set up for road use but track work they work great. Years ago me and the wife use to rally a Peugeot 309. Use to do a fair bit on sealed surface (tarmac/concrete surface) WE were sponsored by a local motor factors. WE were using EBC with Alcom 4 pot callipers. There had been a mix up with a order and we had to do a event using green stuff. We covered 60 stage miles and get this took 2 sets of green stuff down to the metal  :o :o but boy she was mustard on the brakes. Wife was driving and are stopping distances were right up there with the group A all sing and dancing Cossies etc. The wife when she competited  use to love red stuff in the end for feel and bite. I only used yellow as stopping nearly two tons of steal from around a 140 to 20 twice in one lap would of killed anything less.
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« Reply #27 on: 22 March 2012, 23:51:07 »

On bikes, black lasted one day. Green less than a week. Red just over a week. HH sintered pads where the muts.

I hope thier car range is not the same, they don't seem to have an HH equivelant.
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« Reply #28 on: 23 March 2012, 10:37:09 »

I've just fitted some Mintex 1144s on the Westfield. The thing'll stand on its' nose right from cold. Incredible amount of bite. :o

The downside is that after about 3-400 miles the alloys are 100% black with brake dust, and that's with just commuting and the odd little blat, on a car that's not heavy on brakes at the worst of times.

They squeal a little too, but they'll be staying (for as long as they last).

Can't see them suiting an Omega. Maybe the 1155 would be worth a try?

EBC brakes.. a few people seem to swear by them, the rest try them and bin them before they're worn. Not tried them myself though.

Pagid RS14/RS15 pads are very highly rated. Not tried them either, largely due to the price. :o

Which brings us back to Chris' point. Trade club pads are cheap and pretty good all round....

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« Reply #29 on: 23 March 2012, 13:02:55 »

Excess dust is not a good sign, obviously. Oe are by far the best pads I've had on an omega for performance. Cost however was fairly apalling.

Some say they can't tell the difference between tc and oe pads. I wonder, if they get the same temp in thier tc pads, I found a noticeable difference no doubt about it.
 I also wonder why tc pads need such enooooormous chamfers on them? They remove 1/3 of the pad total area.  :o  ???
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« Reply #30 on: 23 March 2012, 13:16:05 »

Something i noticed yesterday while replacing the front pads and discs. the pads i took out were genuine and had a direcion  otravel
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« Reply #31 on: 23 March 2012, 13:31:36 »

If they had riveted on shims on all four pads they are most likely oe.

There appear to be various types of tc pads. Differant suppliers of the same spec maybe?
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« Reply #32 on: 23 March 2012, 15:21:31 »

In the 8 years I've had my MV6, I've probably had about 4 sets of genuine GM, and 3 sets of pattern.

GM's always changed due to wear and the inside face corrosion problem, but good for a couple of years. None of the pattern ones lasted more than 2 months without warping.

I would class myself as reasonably heavy on brakes... ...pads last about 5k

Think we can put that down as the "understatement of the decade"  ;) . Wow, 5K.

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« Reply #33 on: 24 March 2012, 10:22:47 »

If they had riveted on shims on all four pads they are most likely oe.

There appear to be various types of tc pads. Differant suppliers of the same spec maybe?
May be coincidence, but I reckon those TC pads bought with discs are different (visually) to those bought on their own. They seem to perform about the same though, IME.  I should be able to tell soon, as the Silver Bullet is over halfway through its pads, so will soon need renewing - although I haven't been hard on them this time, due to being a cripple
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« Reply #34 on: 24 March 2012, 10:28:17 »

If they had riveted on shims on all four pads they are most likely oe.

There appear to be various types of tc pads. Differant suppliers of the same spec maybe?
May be coincidence, but I reckon those TC pads bought with discs are different (visually) to those bought on their own. They seem to perform about the same though, IME.  I should be able to tell soon, as the Silver Bullet is over halfway through its pads, so will soon need renewing - although I haven't been hard on them this time, due to being a cripple

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« Reply #35 on: 27 March 2012, 10:12:52 »

Report so far,,, 750 miles no probs as yet just so you all know im running the £34.99 groved & drilled discs with Ferodo Premier pads £19.00 Trade, so all in £50, & rear setup discs inc pads & shoes cost another £50 so did the whole lot for £100..

Ferodo also do a new pad above these (fast road/track) but couldnt get them at short notice, but on a friends cateram 7 around mallory park we hammered the hell out it all day on the newer pads no brake fade & kept wheels quite clean too...

i tryed a set of the EBC Redz but christ didnt they take ages to bed in tho... 1000miles+ & warped a set of discs in the process but that was on my old redtop astra gte tho & to be fair i did drive it flat out everywhere! 1500miles to a set of tyres!! sumtimes 1000 if i was lucky so you can tell how hard i drove it,

sometimes drive omega similar but last week i did only 160 miles to a full tank.... £92 gone oops

Anyway i keep you all posted on how they do atleast the brake ped feels stronger not spongy like old set nice to be able to stop for a change!!
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« Reply #36 on: 27 March 2012, 13:15:24 »

Report so far,,, 750 miles no probs as yet just so you all know im running the £34.99 groved & drilled discs with Ferodo Premier pads £19.00 Trade, so all in £50, & rear setup discs inc pads & shoes cost another £50 so did the whole lot for £100..

Ferodo also do a new pad above these (fast road/track) but couldnt get them at short notice, but on a friends cateram 7 around mallory park we hammered the hell out it all day on the newer pads no brake fade & kept wheels quite clean too...

i tryed a set of the EBC Redz but christ didnt they take ages to bed in tho... 1000miles+ & warped a set of discs in the process but that was on my old redtop astra gte tho & to be fair i did drive it flat out everywhere! 1500miles to a set of tyres!! sumtimes 1000 if i was lucky so you can tell how hard i drove it,

sometimes drive omega similar but last week i did only 160 miles to a full tank.... £92 gone oops
Anyway i keep you all posted on how they do atleast the brake ped feels stronger not spongy like old set nice to be able to stop for a change!!

Zippy, sadly I have just done the maths for your MPG. If you wish to keep your sanity I would advise you don't. :D :D
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« Reply #37 on: 27 March 2012, 14:53:43 »

Report so far,,, 750 miles no probs as yet just so you all know im running the £34.99 groved & drilled discs with Ferodo Premier pads £19.00 Trade, so all in £50, & rear setup discs inc pads & shoes cost another £50 so did the whole lot for £100..

Ferodo also do a new pad above these (fast road/track) but couldnt get them at short notice, but on a friends cateram 7 around mallory park we hammered the hell out it all day on the newer pads no brake fade & kept wheels quite clean too...

i tryed a set of the EBC Redz but christ didnt they take ages to bed in tho... 1000miles+ & warped a set of discs in the process but that was on my old redtop astra gte tho & to be fair i did drive it flat out everywhere! 1500miles to a set of tyres!! sumtimes 1000 if i was lucky so you can tell how hard i drove it,

sometimes drive omega similar but last week i did only 160 miles to a full tank.... £92 gone oops
Anyway i keep you all posted on how they do atleast the brake ped feels stronger not spongy like old set nice to be able to stop for a change!!

Zippy, sadly I have just done the maths for your MPG. If you wish to keep your sanity I would advise you don't. :D :D

Good job i calnt rem how to calculate it... well the car display said average 13mpg but guessing thats prob wrong...   ???
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« Reply #38 on: 27 March 2012, 16:29:34 »

So far so good 750mils

Wait till you've done 5K  :)  Thats when my cheapos started to judder like ***k

Fitted Vx ones (on TC - parts guy asked if I'd fitted pattern & confirmed my findings that they don't last more than a few k) and no probs.
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« Reply #39 on: 27 March 2012, 17:14:17 »

Report so far,,, 750 miles no probs as yet just so you all know im running the £34.99 groved & drilled discs with Ferodo Premier pads £19.00 Trade, so all in £50, & rear setup discs inc pads & shoes cost another £50 so did the whole lot for £100..

Ferodo also do a new pad above these (fast road/track) but couldnt get them at short notice, but on a friends cateram 7 around mallory park we hammered the hell out it all day on the newer pads no brake fade & kept wheels quite clean too...

i tryed a set of the EBC Redz but christ didnt they take ages to bed in tho... 1000miles+ & warped a set of discs in the process but that was on my old redtop astra gte tho & to be fair i did drive it flat out everywhere! 1500miles to a set of tyres!! sumtimes 1000 if i was lucky so you can tell how hard i drove it,

sometimes drive omega similar but last week i did only 160 miles to a full tank.... £92 gone oops
Anyway i keep you all posted on how they do atleast the brake ped feels stronger not spongy like old set nice to be able to stop for a change!!

Zippy, sadly I have just done the maths for your MPG. If you wish to keep your sanity I would advise you don't. :D :D

Good job i calnt rem how to calculate it... well the car display said average 13mpg but guessing thats prob wrong...   ???

Petrol at £92 divided by say £1.40 per litre = 65.7 litres
Divide 65.7 by 4.55 to show how many gallons consumed = 14.44 gallons
Divide 160 miles by 14.44 gallons = 11.08 mpg :o :o

You must have had great fun, well done ;D ;D
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Re: These are Great value & christ dont they work well!!!
« Reply #40 on: 28 March 2012, 22:12:17 »

Report so far,,, 750 miles no probs as yet just so you all know im running the £34.99 groved & drilled discs with Ferodo Premier pads £19.00 Trade, so all in £50, & rear setup discs inc pads & shoes cost another £50 so did the whole lot for £100..

Ferodo also do a new pad above these (fast road/track) but couldnt get them at short notice, but on a friends cateram 7 around mallory park we hammered the hell out it all day on the newer pads no brake fade & kept wheels quite clean too...

i tryed a set of the EBC Redz but christ didnt they take ages to bed in tho... 1000miles+ & warped a set of discs in the process but that was on my old redtop astra gte tho & to be fair i did drive it flat out everywhere! 1500miles to a set of tyres!! sumtimes 1000 if i was lucky so you can tell how hard i drove it,

sometimes drive omega similar but last week i did only 160 miles to a full tank.... £92 gone oops
Anyway i keep you all posted on how they do atleast the brake ped feels stronger not spongy like old set nice to be able to stop for a change!!

Zippy, sadly I have just done the maths for your MPG. If you wish to keep your sanity I would advise you don't. :D :D

Good job i calnt rem how to calculate it... well the car display said average 13mpg but guessing thats prob wrong...   ???

Petrol at £92 divided by say £1.40 per litre = 65.7 litres
Divide 65.7 by 4.55 to show how many gallons consumed = 14.44 gallons
Divide 160 miles by 14.44 gallons = 11.08 mpg :o :o

You must have had great fun, well done ;D ;D

Well kinda yes,
went racing the country roads around wales lots of ups & downs 90 bends & hairpin roads used the whole tank in a day had 9miles on range!!
Next day needed 2 partworn tyres on front as when i left had 4mm on return bald on outside edge on n/s oops   :o & thats running a 245 40 17 rears seem to have little wear to be honest but due to tools in boot didnt want to drift her too much as not to wind the diff up or snap a shaft so just fast road fun, but when i fueled up was £1.38 & fill up on return at a different garage was £1.43!! 5p a ltr differance & garages only 2miles apart!!! but normal station closed! £96 to refill  :'(
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Re: These are Great value & christ dont they work well!!!
« Reply #41 on: 29 March 2012, 12:17:33 »

Report so far,,, 750 miles no probs as yet just so you all know im running the £34.99 groved & drilled discs with Ferodo Premier pads £19.00 Trade, so all in £50, & rear setup discs inc pads & shoes cost another £50 so did the whole lot for £100..

Ferodo also do a new pad above these (fast road/track) but couldnt get them at short notice, but on a friends cateram 7 around mallory park we hammered the hell out it all day on the newer pads no brake fade & kept wheels quite clean too...

i tryed a set of the EBC Redz but christ didnt they take ages to bed in tho... 1000miles+ & warped a set of discs in the process but that was on my old redtop astra gte tho & to be fair i did drive it flat out everywhere! 1500miles to a set of tyres!! sumtimes 1000 if i was lucky so you can tell how hard i drove it,

sometimes drive omega similar but last week i did only 160 miles to a full tank.... £92 gone oops
Anyway i keep you all posted on how they do atleast the brake ped feels stronger not spongy like old set nice to be able to stop for a change!!

Zippy, sadly I have just done the maths for your MPG. If you wish to keep your sanity I would advise you don't. :D :D

Good job i calnt rem how to calculate it... well the car display said average 13mpg but guessing thats prob wrong...   ???

Petrol at £92 divided by say £1.40 per litre = 65.7 litres
Divide 65.7 by 4.55 to show how many gallons consumed = 14.44 gallons
Divide 160 miles by 14.44 gallons = 11.08 mpg :o :o

You must have had great fun, well done ;D ;D

Christ,my v8 disco will nudge 20mpg if I'm careful ish.
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